Sweersa Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 1 minute ago, 19AT5 said: I think the original is better overall... sans the intro which is totally unnecessary. Bizarrely the Axl lines in the chorus of the new version I quite like... and a lot of folk don't. I think on the new version, the Slash guitar lines actually compliment fairly well and there's a wee bass run which Duff plays that I quite like. Just gonna call it though... drums are meh! I won't go as far to say I'm digging Absurd, but I will at least give it the time of day and allow it to try and win me over. I saw a line from somebody on this forum which I quite liked around GNR have just released the most un-GNR song possible and that that itself is quite cool and ambitious. I'm kinda in that camp too, regardless of whether I like the track or not! If that makes any sense at all. I agree, the old intro was way long and unnecessary. I think Brain's drums would sound better if they were higher in the mix on the Absurd version. The guitars sounds too high as well. Though Josh's drums (I presume they are Josh's) are absolutely killer on the village version, especially as the long ass intro ends. My ideal version would be with the intro from the Bumble leak (close to the Absurd version) with Slash and Fortus' solos (presumably Fortus solos with Slash on Absurd) but with the missing chorus from the 2001 shows put back in. I'm sure there's some kickass mixes that are similar to this with Buckethead, that would be my "holy grail" Silkworms mix. I would bet there's some 2001-2004 versions of that out there somewhere... Years ago I heard someone associated with the band say Buckethead improved Silkworms with a solo, and they apparently enjoyed it on their iPod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTJ80 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 20 minutes ago, Sweersa said: I agree, the old intro was way long and unnecessary. I think Brain's drums would sound better if they were higher in the mix on the Absurd version. The guitars sounds too high as well. Though Josh's drums (I presume they are Josh's) are absolutely killer on the village version, especially as the long ass intro ends. My ideal version would be with the intro from the Bumble leak (close to the Absurd version) with Slash and Fortus' solos (presumably Fortus solos with Slash on Absurd) but with the missing chorus from the 2001 shows put back in. I'm sure there's some kickass mixes that are similar to this with Buckethead, that would be my "holy grail" Silkworms mix. I would bet there's some 2001-2004 versions of that out there somewhere... Years ago I heard someone associated with the band say Buckethead improved Silkworms with a solo, and they apparently enjoyed it on their iPod. THIS is when Melissa can shine….she could probably remix it in the way you suggested as she is clearly adept at that. Then we’d have a fourth version 🤣. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Riggs Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 2 hours ago, Towelie said: Didn't go top 100 in the UK. Charts announced today and was keeping an eye out to see if it would chart. It didn't. Yeah it was #1 ok the ITunes rock chart the day it came out and now a week later…it’s not even in the Top 100. Good grief. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19AT5 Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, Sweersa said: I agree, the old intro was way long and unnecessary. I think Brain's drums would sound better if they were higher in the mix on the Absurd version. The guitars sounds too high as well. Though Josh's drums (I presume they are Josh's) are absolutely killer on the village version, especially as the long ass intro ends. My ideal version would be with the intro from the Bumble leak (close to the Absurd version) with Slash and Fortus' solos (presumably Fortus solos with Slash on Absurd) but with the missing chorus from the 2001 shows put back in. I'm sure there's some kickass mixes that are similar to this with Buckethead, that would be my "holy grail" Silkworms mix. I would bet there's some 2001-2004 versions of that out there somewhere... Years ago I heard someone associated with the band say Buckethead improved Silkworms with a solo, and they apparently enjoyed it on their iPod. Ach you're likely pal, but fuck it... we've been presented wae beans on toast unexpectedly, but if we had had the chance, we'd likely have taken pasta! Haha! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 1 minute ago, DTJ80 said: THIS is when Melissa can shine….she could probably remix it in the way you suggested as she is clearly adept at that. Then we’d have a fourth version 🤣. I'll be sure to ask her, or Brain, assuming they are not too busy with each other at the time. ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DTJ80 Posted August 13, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2021 Just now, Sweersa said: I'll be sure to ask her, or Brain, assuming they are not too busy with each other at the time. ;D 🤣 we could end up with a Rocket Queen style mid section 🤣 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MaskingApathy Posted August 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 14, 2021 16 hours ago, Blackstar said: I don't think Absurd sounds like nu metal. No it doesn't, with Slash it's become more hard rock. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blackstar Posted August 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 14, 2021 1 hour ago, MaskingApathy said: No it doesn't, with Slash it's become more hard rock. Yes. And the original version wasn't nu metal or industrial either. It was electronica/electro-punk. Some people just tend to label anything that's synth driven or using samples as industrial or nu metal. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASLayerAODsk Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 well, what do you think of this one? :) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitchisback Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Blackstar said: Yes. And the original version wasn't nu metal or industrial either. It was electronica/electro-punk. Some people just tend to label anything that's synth driven or using samples as industrial or nu metal. It's not that it's nu metal but the song would definitely have fit in very well with what was popular back in the mid to late 90s into the early 2000s. Just like Oh My God isn't nu metal but had a very similar vibe and sound and fit in really well onto the End of Days soundtrack full of Powerman 5000, Korn, Limp Bizkit and Rob Zombie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Bitchisback said: It's not that it's nu metal but the song would definitely have fit in very well with what was popular back in the mid to late 90s into the early 2000s. Just like Oh My God isn't nu metal but had a very similar vibe and sound and fit in really well onto the End of Days soundtrack full of Powerman 5000, Korn, Limp Bizkit and Rob Zombie. Yes, Oh My God musically had some of that vibe. Not Silkowrms, though. It was influenced by other things that were popular at the time (The Prodigy, mainly), but not that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitchisback Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Eh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bond Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 I gave the old HOB 2001 version of Silkworms a listen for the first time in probably over a decade, and yeah, they improved it big time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jw224 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, James Bond said: I gave the old HOB 2001 version of Silkworms a listen for the first time in probably over a decade, and yeah, they improved it big time. I still really enjoy the older version, and quite honestly was expecting Slash to make CD material boring, but I actually really enjoyed what they did with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LA_0013 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Drums in the intro sound like the Rocket Queen drums intro on speed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ToonGuns Posted August 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 14, 2021 (edited) Had more of a chance to digest this after multiple listenings. My thoughts / constructive critique: - still like it a lot - Although I am a huge fan of NuGuns and would have preferred Bucket's stuff to be left untouched, Slash in particular (more than Duff) has added a lot to this song and given it both a modern yet classic GnR vibe which is excellent - it reminds me a little of Locomotive, albeit I wish it was longer and more like Locomotive in structure (although conscious it is a "single"... maybe an album edit could do this), the intro in particular I think needs extended to build up into the riff more - the repeat of the verse is just lazy, would have preferred different lyrics - the bridge / acoustic bit is far too short, feels like a total waste... why not stretch that out and really allow that to embed itself within the song, it is far far too short and the ears have just adjusted when it suddenly ends, feels like a missed opportunity - I wish Axl had sung it in his clean voice, the faux British accent worked well on DOTF but would prefer a classic Axl style - so pleased to hear Slash and Bucket on the same track, I think there is mutual respect there and hope we get more of it - Love the drumming, very technical in parts and Brain is a beast and I hope we hear more of him on future releases... but it feels rushed in parts particularly near the start. Slash has "sleazed" up the riff, so the drums could do with being a bit looser. Not Brain's fault of course given when he recorded this, but it feels in parts like they are ahead of the beat, the bass drum in particular. I think they could have improved on this in the mixing - this is jus nitpicking though for the sake of critique, and overall though I like the song and think it is a massive positive sign of potential to (hopefully) come Edited August 14, 2021 by ToonGuns Spelling 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arnuld Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 20 hours ago, Blackstar said: Yes. And the original version wasn't nu metal or industrial either. It was electronica/electro-punk. Some people just tend to label anything that's synth driven or using samples as industrial or nu metal. #truth 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric Cantona Posted August 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted August 14, 2021 Just played ABSUЯD at my school! There were kids dancing in the hallways and shouting ''GN'R is back!!!'' 1 8 2 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitha_whiskey Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 Listening to Shooter Jennings show on Outlaw Country 60 on Sirius radio just now... he played it! 🍻 First time I’ve heard it in the wild besides me clicking play on my phone... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novemberparadise23 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Fitha_whiskey said: Listening to Shooter Jennings show on Outlaw Country 60 on Sirius radio just now... he played it! 🍻 First time I’ve heard it in the wild besides me clicking play on my phone... On a country station? Wow 😂 wouldn’t have expected that. But cool nonetheless! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitha_whiskey Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, novemberparadise23 said: On a country station? Wow 😂 wouldn’t have expected that. But cool nonetheless! Yeah but Legend has it Shooter Jennings was asked to join the original version of VR... there is no doubt he loves GnR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novemberparadise23 Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 23 minutes ago, Fitha_whiskey said: Yeah but Legend has it Shooter Jennings was asked to join the original version of VR... there is no doubt he loves GnR. Ahhh makes more sense now. Didn’t realize he was in the mix to join VR at one point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitchisback Posted August 14, 2021 Share Posted August 14, 2021 47 minutes ago, Fitha_whiskey said: Listening to Shooter Jennings show on Outlaw Country 60 on Sirius radio just now... he played it! 🍻 First time I’ve heard it in the wild besides me clicking play on my phone... Aw man I keep hoping to hear it on Sirius. I just missed being in my car at that time lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitha_whiskey Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 32 minutes ago, Bitchisback said: Aw man I keep hoping to hear it on Sirius. I just missed being in my car at that time lol Do you listen to Outlaw 60? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bitchisback Posted August 15, 2021 Share Posted August 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Fitha_whiskey said: Do you listen to Outlaw 60? Nope, but I have a notification for every time GnR comes on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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