Hard Skool is coming!

[MaskingApathy]

1 hour ago, HollyWoodRose84 said:

Plot twist 

 

Hard Skool is coming.....on the next Conspirators album with Myles singing.  

I would be ok with that haha. Would be interesting to hear what they would do with it.

1 hour ago, Martin Riggs said:

I mean the gal who started all this hype is a super-fan from Brazil, right? Not too difficult to envision this all being kinda planned by Fernando to build up the buzz. I mean the fact she a supposed stranger was even backstage and having a beer with Axl while he’s playing a new tune for her (with a Covid bubble the only thing protecting the tour) raises the suspicion to me that this wasn’t totally spontaneous. Hopefully that’s the case. 

In the comments on either that post or the one later the guy who was with her said this:

"For everyone who thinks that picture of her is photoshopped, I can rightfully tell you it isn’t. I was with her at the show last night and was there when one of the GNR backstage security guards took her to the side of the stage and told her Axl wanted to meet her. I went with her to the side of the stage which was probably 5 minutes after they left the stage and witnessed her going back to the dressing room. She told me the full story of everything that happened and when we discussed what she wanted to post in this group (which she thought people would be nothing but excited for her) she didn’t wanna bring up how Axl told Fernando to play Hard Skool for her, but I told her to because it’s fucking awesome!! You can believe what you want but don’t start hating on an innocent person who had the time of their life last night just because something cool like this didn’t happen to you. Also she deleted the post because people kept leaving negative comments. Live and let live and stop bad mouthing a fellow long time GNR fan and member of this group!!

I watched her go backstage with one of the GNR security guards and he played her the recorded version. Axl told Fernando to show it to her. He didn’t play it live to her lmao

He didn’t play it live. He had Fernando play her the studio recording. She told me the full story right after it happened when she was literally still shaking"

So it looks like they sought her out at the show so she could come meet Axl and Fernando, and in her original post she said that Axl remembered her from before, so she's not necessarily a stranger to them. So I think it's definitely possible that this was planned out ahead of time, or they thought of doing this when Axl or whoever saw her in the crowd at the show.

Also I think there's a good chance that any CD leftover songs on the album will have new titles (like Absurd) so searching Spotify for those titles won't link to GnR because they're using new names.

[betterman]

[jimisbatman]

3 minutes ago, betterman said:

Where's this from? 

Damn, does this mean no HS this year?  Let's change the thread title to Hardskool is coming (but not this year) 😂 

Edited September 16, 2021 by jimisbatman

[betterman]

I thought it was official first, but I see that its from a fanpage on facebook - but he apparently has said that the new single will be out October

[YOUCOULDBEMINE.]

After seeing the trainwreck that was Paradise City with Dave Grohl I kinda want GN'R to stop touring. Just make some music in the studio, where Axl can still sound okay.

Dude is Vince Neiling his way through every song.

And it also really bothers me that we're getting 20+ year old songs from Chinese Democracy, instead of something written by Axl, Slash and Duff.

Releasing Silkworms was unforgivable imho, being so badly mixed made it even worse.

I hope Hardschool will be decent enough, and that there is more to come. But I really have to stop watching live videos from these past few years. Everything I loved about this band is absent in these videos.

 

[GoForJMark]

A couple Debbie Downers here I see. 

[DTJ80]

7 minutes ago, YOUCOULDBEMINE. said:

After seeing the trainwreck that was Paradise City with Dave Grohl I kinda want GN'R to stop touring. Just make some music in the studio, where Axl can still sound okay.

Dude is Vince Neiling his way through every song.

And it also really bothers me that we're getting 20+ year old songs from Chinese Democracy, instead of something written by Axl, Slash and Duff.

Releasing Silkworms was unforgivable imho, being so badly mixed made it even worse.

I hope Hardschool will be decent enough, and that there is more to come. But I really have to stop watching live videos from these past few years. Everything I loved about this band is absent in these videos.

 

To be honest - it sounds like GNR just aren’t the band for you anymore. 🤷🏼‍♂️
 

If it makes you feel any better - I’ve kinda given up on Iron Maiden now as I don’t like what they are churning out these days (albeit still great live). They just aren’t the band for me anymore.

[AxlSlashthebest]

44 minutes ago, betterman said:

I thought it was official first, but I see that its from a fanpage on facebook - but he apparently has said that the new single will be out October

where did you saw october please ?

[Blackstar]

4 minutes ago, AxlSlashthebest said:

where did you saw october please ?

I posted the article earlier in this thread. Here it is again:

https://www.dailynews.com/2021/09/10/guns-n-roses-guitarist-slash-flies-in-from-concert-tour-for-universal-studios-halloween-horror-nights-opening/

[YOUCOULDBEMINE.]

24 minutes ago, DTJ80 said:

To be honest - it sounds like GNR just aren’t the band for you anymore. 🤷🏼‍♂️
 

If it makes you feel any better - I’ve kinda given up on Iron Maiden now as I don’t like what they are churning out these days (albeit still great live). They just aren’t the band for me anymore.

I can't judge on that since GN'R isn't doing anything in particular since the release of CD in 2008. And since Silkworms isn't new I have no idea if I'd like their new work.

I'm fine with the band, I was fine with bad/sloppy guitarists and drunk Pitman. But the thing that made Axl so likeable is so far gone that it's almost sad to watch (for me).

Which takes me back to my previous post. I'm fine with checking out whatever single or album they release in the future (especially if it's something entirely new) and probably end up buying it. 

But the liveshows are becoming really painful to listen to.

And I get it, age and Axl/DC and straining etc. But it still sucks to hear him like this, especially when his gritty vocals were the reason I loved GN'R in the first place.

And somewhere deep down I really hope there is still some of that fire left in him, but you never know. At least he seems in a good place, so I'm happy for that.

[jamillos]

34 minutes ago, GoForJMark said:

A couple Debbie Downers here I see. 

No. It’s a forum consisting of various people, i.e. a variety of views and opinions. It’s not like other forums, where all has to be almost 100% bright and the few who dare complain are automatically "haters". Much of what the dude says is true, and there’s nothing wrong with venting it here. Then there are people who complain about people who complain and keep saying the same things, without realizing the irony of it, as they keep saying the same things as well. I say to each their own. 
Being totally negative all the time is one thing; pretending everything’s always peachy is another. Extremes. 
 

32 minutes ago, DTJ80 said:

To be honest - it sounds like GNR just aren’t the band for you anymore. 🤷🏼‍♂️
 

If it makes you feel any better - I’ve kinda given up on Iron Maiden now as I don’t like what they are churning out these days (albeit still great live). They just aren’t the band for me anymore.

Nonsense. I see many of the observations the same way, yet it doesn’t mean I should move on to some other band, especially since I’ve been a fan my whole life. It’s just that they should and could put more effort in their approach. We can’t do much about Axl’s unstable vocal form, but the rest – lack of variety, releases etc. – is something that can be criticized, and rightfully so. 
IM is a different type of band, and Dickinson has a different type of vocal cords. Guns and Axl are truly unique, so the comparisons are sort of… inefficient. 
 

[DTJ80]

54 minutes ago, YOUCOULDBEMINE. said:

I can't judge on that since GN'R isn't doing anything in particular since the release of CD in 2008. And since Silkworms isn't new I have no idea if I'd like their new work.

I'm fine with the band, I was fine with bad/sloppy guitarists and drunk Pitman. But the thing that made Axl so likeable is so far gone that it's almost sad to watch (for me).

Which takes me back to my previous post. I'm fine with checking out whatever single or album they release in the future (especially if it's something entirely new) and probably end up buying it. 

But the liveshows are becoming really painful to listen to.

And I get it, age and Axl/DC and straining etc. But it still sucks to hear him like this, especially when his gritty vocals were the reason I loved GN'R in the first place.

And somewhere deep down I really hope there is still some of that fire left in him, but you never know. At least he seems in a good place, so I'm happy for that.

Which is fair enough - I noted the comment about the vocals/release of Absurd and general apparent apathy. Personally I think they sound pretty good and folk seem to be really enjoying the gigs? 🤷🏼‍♂️

50 minutes ago, jamillos said:

No. It’s a forum consisting of various people, i.e. a variety of views and opinions. It’s not like other forums, where all has to be almost 100% bright and the few who dare complain are automatically "haters". Much of what the dude says is true, and there’s nothing wrong with venting it here. Then there are people who complain about people who complain and keep saying the same things, without realizing the irony of it, as they keep saying the same things as well. I say to each their own. 
Being totally negative all the time is one thing; pretending everything’s always peachy is another. Extremes. 
 

Nonsense. I see many of the observations the same way, yet it doesn’t mean I should move on to some other band, especially since I’ve been a fan my whole life. It’s just that they should and could put more effort in their approach. We can’t do much about Axl’s unstable vocal form, but the rest – lack of variety, releases etc. – is something that can be criticized, and rightfully so. 
IM is a different type of band, and Dickinson has a different type of vocal cords. Guns and Axl are truly unique, so the comparisons are sort of… inefficient. 
 

I’m looking at it as a holistic view. I noted the comments about the vocals/release of Absurd and general apparent apathy. Axl is clearly not ‘Vince Neiling’ every song and whilst that Paradise City wasn’t great I didn’t think it was a train wreck.

It just sounded to me in general @YOUCOULDBEMINE.sounded ‘done’….I don’t know the person…was just an observation! And I likened it to my experience of IM….massive fan for years but now they don’t interest me at all (because IMO they are churning out boring stuff). That’s fine - doesn’t stop me playing BNW or SIT and rocking out.

 

[Stay.Of.Execution]

I don't see a correlation between the slash release and a possible imminent release of hard skool. It's not like GNR or Slash would be promoting the shit Out of the song. Plus he wouldn't really be competing with himself, instead earning with two songs at the same time.

[Sweersa]

11 hours ago, Martin Riggs said:

I mean the gal who started all this hype is a super-fan from Brazil, right? Not too difficult to envision this all being kinda planned by Fernando to build up the buzz. I mean the fact she a supposed stranger was even backstage and having a beer with Axl while he’s playing a new tune for her (with a Covid bubble the only thing protecting the tour) raises the suspicion to me that this wasn’t totally spontaneous. Hopefully that’s the case. 

Excellent points! I believe it. Plus, let's be honest, I wouldn't expect her or most GN'R fans, even some of the hardcore fans to know what Hardskool is. In other words, she doesn't strike me as someone who would ask Axl (on her own accord) about an unreleased song that leaked a few years ago and has had some buzz up until that moment.

13 hours ago, RussTCB said:

They wouldn't have to worry about CDs until weeks after the surprise digital release. 

Taylor Swift, Eminem, Beyonce and many other artists have had huge albums in the last few years that were surprise releases on streaming. Then they released the CDs weeks later and the vinyl after that. 

Good to know, thanks! I guess I'm too old school.

[RussTCB]

11 minutes ago, Sweersa said:

Good to know, thanks! I guess I'm too old school.

WELL YOU HAD TO BE A FOOL, HAD TO DO IT YOUR WAY! HAD TO BE A FOOL, HAD TO THROW...... wait....you said "old school", not "hard school". My bad, natural reaction. 

[ZODIAC]

1 minute ago, RussTCB said:

WELL YOU HAD TO BE A FOOL, HAD TO DO IT YOUR WAY! HAD TO BE A FOOL, HAD TO THROW...... wait....you said "old school", not "hard school". My bad, natural reaction. 

Is there a correct transcription of the lyrics anywhere in this forum?

[RussTCB]

Just now, ZODIAC said:

Is there a correct transcription of the lyrics anywhere in this forum?

No clue. There's probably some good guesses 

[Sweersa]

11 minutes ago, RussTCB said:

WELL YOU HAD TO BE A FOOL, HAD TO DO IT YOUR WAY! HAD TO BE A FOOL, HAD TO THROW...... wait....you said "old school", not "hard school". My bad, natural reaction. 

Hahaha I didn't even mean to do that. Well done!

[SoNobodyToldYaBaby]

On 9/13/2021 at 5:09 PM, allwaystired said:

I wouldn't class this as confirmation of anything really. It does seem rather unlikely that he's just whipped out a recording and played it for someone right after a show. 

Sorry, I'm not convinced on this one. We know how much trolling there is in the GNR world. 

Id whip out anything and everything if a girl that hot was in my presence 

[GoForJMark]

3 hours ago, jamillos said:

No. It’s a forum consisting of various people, i.e. a variety of views and opinions. It’s not like other forums, where all has to be almost 100% bright and the few who dare complain are automatically "haters". Much of what the dude says is true, and there’s nothing wrong with venting it here. Then there are people who complain about people who complain and keep saying the same things, without realizing the irony of it, as they keep saying the same things as well. I say to each their own. 
Being totally negative all the time is one thing; pretending everything’s always peachy is another. Extremes. 
 

Nonsense. I see many of the observations the same way, yet it doesn’t mean I should move on to some other band, especially since I’ve been a fan my whole life. It’s just that they should and could put more effort in their approach. We can’t do much about Axl’s unstable vocal form, but the rest – lack of variety, releases etc. – is something that can be criticized, and rightfully so. 
IM is a different type of band, and Dickinson has a different type of vocal cords. Guns and Axl are truly unique, so the comparisons are sort of… inefficient. 
 

Yep a forum it is and it has Debbie Downers. 

And who said anything about haters though? I just called it like it is, it's a Hard skool thread, everyone was going excited and optimistic for once. In comes these conflicters(reporting of slash's single) and the oh I'm don't wanna see them play it. Textbook Debbie Downer. Didn't say "fuck you I don't agree with you", just literally called it like it is. So take a chill pill. 

Edited September 16, 2021 by GoForJMark

[SoulMonster]

8 minutes ago, SoNobodyToldYaBaby said:

Id whip out anything and everything if a girl that hot was in my presence 

Axl probably relocated his facemask to his nether regions. Strap with protection and all that.

[BillConnor_1982]

It would be pretty awesome if they dropped a complete new album tomorrow exactly 30 years after the UYI album, with a physical release to follow. 
 

it would fit in with their “milking the fans dry” mentality too, because they’d get the digital purchases now, then the fans would purchase it again when the 80 Different physical copies get released prob just in time for the holidays 

[RussTCB]

40 minutes ago, BillConnor_1982 said:

It would be pretty awesome if they dropped a complete new album tomorrow exactly 30 years after the UYI album, with a physical release to follow. 
 

it would fit in with their “milking the fans dry” mentality too, because they’d get the digital purchases now, then the fans would purchase it again when the 80 Different physical copies get released prob just in time for the holidays 

Assuming a new album comes out, I do expect SEVERAL vinyl versions. Here in the US, Walmart and Target have been back in the vinyl game big time. 

Nearly every big album that comes out has different color vinyl or cover variants at each of those retailers in addition to indie store variants. 

If GN'R ever releases a new album, I wouldn't be surprised if there's at least 4 vinyl variants if not more. 

[GoForJMark]

7 minutes ago, RussTCB said:

Assuming a new album comes out, I do expect SEVERAL vinyl versions. Here in the US, Walmart and Target have been back in the vinyl game big time. 

Nearly every big album that comes out has different color vinyl or cover variants at each of those retailers in addition to indie store variants. 

If GN'R ever releases a new album, I wouldn't be surprised if there's at least 4 vinyl variants if not more. 

And @Pele would be shocked to not see '99 KOHD in it. 

[Sweersa]

14 minutes ago, RussTCB said:

Assuming a new album comes out, I do expect SEVERAL vinyl versions. Here in the US, Walmart and Target have been back in the vinyl game big time. 

Nearly every big album that comes out has different color vinyl or cover variants at each of those retailers in addition to indie store variants. 

If GN'R ever releases a new album, I wouldn't be surprised if there's at least 4 vinyl variants if not more. 

Fingers crossed for an audio cassette version too. My '99 Mercedes-Benz and I need that to happen.