GNRfanJen Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 8 minutes ago, Blackstar said: I don't think he doesn't want to play it, but he just can't operate under pressure; it probably makes it worse for him, especially if he's nervous about playing it (although he wants to). This. I’m just as annoyed, tired, disappointed, and frustrated as everybody else that they haven’t played the song, but deep down I know this is why (or at least, what I believe). I guess I’m just really empathetic when it comes to stuff like this. I get it. I foolishly am still holding out hope. We might get lucky one of these last handful of shows and Axl is just really feeling it and we finally get the debut. We’ll see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerInThisTown Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 16 minutes ago, Blackstar said: I don't think he doesn't want to play it, but he just can't operate under pressure; it probably makes it worse for him, especially if he's nervous about playing it (although he wants to). It's a plausible theory, however I think if he really felt that way he would be doing way more soundchecks and singing it a million times there until he feels good about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRfanJen Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, GNRfanJen said: This. I’m just as annoyed, tired, disappointed, and frustrated as everybody else that they haven’t played the song, but deep down I know this is why (or at least, what I believe is part of it). I guess I’m just really empathetic when it comes to stuff like this. I get it. I foolishly am still holding out hope. We might get lucky one of these last handful of shows and Axl is just really feeling it and we finally get the debut. We’ll see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseCDII Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, GNRfanJen said: This. I’m just as annoyed, tired, disappointed, and frustrated as everybody else that they haven’t played the song, but deep down I know this is why (or at least, what I believe). I guess I’m just really empathetic when it comes to stuff like this. I get it. I foolishly am still holding out hope. We might get lucky one of these last handful of shows and Axl is just really feeling it and we finally get the debut. We’ll see. I want to feel like this, but I feel too burned out by the band and wanting to hear this song. I have been following every show since 2019 hoping for it, and a certain point I feel like I just need to move on from it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LandOla Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 It was posted as an instagram story. Aren't those only available for a short period of time and then get deleted automatically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 minute ago, StrangerInThisTown said: It's a plausible theory, however I think if he really felt that way he would be doing way more soundchecks and singing it a million times there until he feels good about it. It may be more than just about not feeling able/confident to sing it. I have wondered if @RussTCB's theory about why Street Of Dreams hasn't been played applies to Hard School, too - maybe Axl doesn't feel comfortable to sing these lyrics. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRfanJen Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 minute ago, AxlRoseCDII said: I want to feel like this, but I feel too burned out by the band and wanting to hear this song. I have been following every show since 2019 hoping for it, and a certain point I feel like I just need to move on from it. I’m just the same as you, believe me. That first show back in 2019 with the song in the alt setlist and everybody freaking out about it, only for it to not be played feels like child’s play compared to where we’re at now. If it’s any consolation, the US tour (and probably the rest of the shows in 2021) is almost over so at least our suffering will also end soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, LandOla said: It was posted as an instagram story. Aren't those only available for a short period of time and then get deleted automatically? They don't get deleted automatically so soon. The stories she posted before this one are still there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RussTCB Posted September 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Blackstar said: It may be more than just about not feeling able/confident to sing it. I have wondered if @RussTCB's theory about why Street Of Dreams hasn't been played applies to Hard School, too - maybe Axl doesn't feel comfortable to sing these lyrics. It very well could be yeah BUT I don't think the song would've even been soundchecked if that were the case. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 It wouldn't be too surprising if Axl saves the 'new' stuff until 2the last 2 or 3 shows, like he's done before. I have no idea what they're waiting for at this point, though. Clearly the band wants to play it and the studio version is ready to go... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 14 minutes ago, RussTCB said: It very well could be yeah BUT I don't think the song would've even been soundchecked if that were the case. Yes, maybe. Or maybe he thought he would be okay with it, but hasn't felt ready yet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockstarDealingacademy Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Blackstar said: I don't think he doesn't want to play it, but he just can't operate under pressure; it probably makes it worse for him, especially if he's nervous about playing it (although he wants to). He's been the lead singer of a band for about 40 years. I don't think "pressure" is a big issue. I also don't think he's too shy or nervous to sing a song in front of people. Maybe he just doesn't like the song? There's a reason it didn't end up on Chinese Democracy. Edited September 20, 2021 by RockstarDealingacademy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerInThisTown Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 25 minutes ago, Blackstar said: It may be more than just about not feeling able/confident to sing it. I have wondered if @RussTCB's theory about why Street Of Dreams hasn't been played applies to Hard School, too - maybe Axl doesn't feel comfortable to sing these lyrics. I don't think it's plausible at all that the song is being soundchecked a million times if it was never going to be played anyway. He also sang it at atleast 1 soundcheck before, so I don't think this entire theory holds any truth to it that he's insecure or something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerInThisTown Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, RockstarDealingacademy said: He's been the lead singer of a band for about 40 years. I don't think "pressure" is a big issue. I also don't think he's too shy or nervous to sing a song in front of people. Maybe he just doesn't like the song? There's a reason it didn't end up on Chinese Democracy. You think Axl would want the band to rework a song he doesn't like, and then release it as a single? ..just no Edited September 20, 2021 by StrangerInThisTown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, RockstarDealingacademy said: He's been the lead singer of a band for about 40 years. I don't think "pressure" is a big issue. I also don't think he's too shy or nervous to sing a song in front of people. Maybe he just doesn't like the song? There's a reason it didn't end up on Chinese Democracy. If he didn't like the song, he wouldn't want to release it at all. He also mentioned it in the 2008 chats, so it's clear that he never abandoned it. I guess the reason it didn't make CD was that it didn't fit, because it's more a straight rocker compared to the other songs on there. 7 minutes ago, StrangerInThisTown said: I don't think it's plausible at all that the song is being soundchecked a million times if it was never going to be played anyway. He also sang it at atleast 1 soundcheck before, so I don't think this entire theory holds any truth to it that he's insecure or something. I can't think of another explanation, though. Edited September 20, 2021 by Blackstar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocknroll41 Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 13 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said: It wouldn't be too surprising if Axl saves the 'new' stuff until 2the last 2 or 3 shows, like he's done before. I have no idea what they're waiting for at this point, though. Clearly the band wants to play it and the studio version is ready to go... when has he done that before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangerInThisTown Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 7 minutes ago, Blackstar said: If he didn't like the song, he wouldn't want to release it at all. He also mentioned it in the 2008 chats, so it's clear that he never abandoned it. I guess the reason it didn't make CD was that it didn't fit, because it's more a straight rocker compared to the other songs on there. I can't think of another explanation, though. This is a big guess, but worst case could be that HS is just planned for a later release date than anything close to now, and Slash and Duff just soundcheck it to either have some fun at soundcheck, or just to have it possible as an option to start playing it now already, if Axl wants to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 4 minutes ago, rocknroll41 said: when has he done that before? 2014 at least (Yesterdays and Marseilles, and Prostitute and TWAT which were rarities). The last few shows in 2006 he played stuff like Down On The Farm and brought out guests like Izzy and Lars... idk he seems to 'bring it' more near the end of a tour. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blackstar Posted September 20, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 20, 2021 This story always makes me laugh : Sebastian Bach: "There’s only a couple of times he’s ever gotten mad at me. One of them was when I let Ron Jeremy in his dressing room. He didn’t like that at all. ‘Why the fuck did you let Ron Jeremy in my dressing room?’ I was like, dude, he was begging. That wasn’t a good time for me. Axl goes from zero to 60 faster than any hemi engine, I’ll tell you that. When we were first hanging out in 2006, we were just standing around a bunch of people. I go, ‘Axl, do you think you might get the record out? It would be a great time, now that we’re on tour and everything.’ He goes, ‘Oh. Great! Everybody! Sebastian has a great idea here, man. Guess what? Sebastian, should I put out a record? Maybe it would be a good idea for me to put out a fucking record! Hey everybody, listen to this! I never thought of that! That never came to me! Oh, great idea dude.’ I felt like Fred Flintstone in Mr. Slate’s office." I think Axl knows what he has to do and wants to do it, but he wants to feel ready and doesn't like to be pushed and be told about it. Unfortunately, as we know, it may take years until he "feels ready" - however, I'm sure that won't happen with HS. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manfisman Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 I think they must have a release date for HS already, and they will probably play it as close as that date as possible. Probably Oct/Nov? Who knows 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 1 hour ago, Blackstar said: I don't think he doesn't want to play it, but he just can't operate under pressure; it probably makes it worse for him, especially if he's nervous about playing it (although he wants to). Maybe are under pressure to bring Axl diarrhea.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slurps Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 Axl has his own timeline. and it is absurd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live Like a Suicide Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 I think Hardskool is clearly part of a digital marketing campaign right now, and already has an internal pre-determined release schedule set (on or after which it will be played live). It may not be a coincidence that the random woman met Axl and told people on social media she heard HS, followed by Slash, Meeghan and Susan further sharing soundcheck recordings. The events are either related (meaning the initial social media post and subsequent media coverage was planned or intended) or the GN'R PR team jumped on the initial social/media hype. Either way, it is good news. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, Live Like a Suicide said: I think Hardskool is clearly part of a digital marketing campaign right now, and already has an internal pre-determined release schedule set (on or after which it will be played live). It may not be a coincidence that the random woman met Axl and told people on social media she heard HS, followed by Slash, Meeghan and Susan further sharing soundcheck recordings. The events are either related (meaning the initial social media post and subsequent media coverage was planned or intended) or the GN'R PR team jumped on the initial social/media hype. Either way, it is good news. Just a detail: Meegan shared the soundcheck clip (and then deleted it) a few shows and a couple of weeks before the fan posted on social media about meeting Axl and hearing HS. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Live Like a Suicide Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, Blackstar said: Just a detail: Meegan shared the soundcheck clip (and then deleted it) a few shows and a couple of weeks before the fan posted on social media about meeting Axl and hearing HS. Ah, thanks for that! I always appreciate your knowledge and attention to detail! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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