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Use Your Illusion 1 & 2 - 30 Years Later


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I had the Illusions 1 first, and would only get the Illusions 2 on CD years later. Because I had such a limited exposure to the vol. 2, I had a sense that both Estranged and Locomotive were mystical, because of how dark and weird they were. I still remember when they released the trilogy, and how pumped I was with the singles (didn't get Civil War here, but was totally on board with KOHD on the Days of Thunder OST). 

I played those songs so much over those 30 years that I think it's like my life's soundtrack.

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I really wish I could've been around for the release of these albums, was too busy not being alive yet unfortunately. Appetite was the first GNR record I ever bought and listened to, but it really was the Illusions that made me a lifelong fan. Hearing songs like Estranged, Locomotive, Coma etc for the first time as a young kid was something magical, it completely changed my perception of what rock music could be. They were a huge part of my childhood and are definitely my favorite albums of all time 

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I used to listen to UYI all the time; some of my favourites were You Could Be Mine, Coma, Locomotive, Back Off Bitch, Don't Damn Me, Civil War, Get In The Ring, Perfect Crime, Shotgun Blues. I would constantly keep listening to them over and over again until it was embedded in my mind so much that even when I didn't listen, I would keep hearing them in my mind. You Could Be Mine was the birth of my love for Guns N' Roses when I heard it in Terminator 2 throughout the movie scenes and then when it would aggressively launch into it during the ending credits I couldn't believe what a rocking song I had just heard!

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All I know is that this album contains language which some listeners may find objectionable. They can F?!* OFF and buy something from the New Age section. 

Seriously, for me, too, were UYI the first complete GN'R albums I owned; I got AfD only later. They are an inherent part of my life. 

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I was 11 years old, and I remember seeing the YCBM video that came out alongside Terminator 2.  When UYI albums dropped, it was beyond huge.  My pre-teen friends and I had a conversation akin to the following: “which one has YCBM?  II?  Ok, get that one.  But wait, the other one has November Rain and Don’t Cry.  Well, II also has Don’t Cry.”  
 

To this day, I love ‘em both.  I do think II is ever so slightly better though.  It was great seeing them dust off Civil War finally in 2010 (or whenever that was), and I’m so glad it’s a live staple now.

Really hoping for a cool box set, with demos and at least a live show on vinyl that we haven’t heard.  

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They are perfect in my eyes. 

I was 15 when they came out....I remember like yesterday when I heard Don't Cry and You could be mine in the radio. They were big in my country.

With Don't Cry I heard that single every hour on the radio and my aunt who was a nun in USA bought me the cassetes and sent them to me. They were perfect!!!!

 

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1 hour ago, jamillos said:

All I know is that this album contains language which some listeners may find objectionable. They can F?!* OFF and buy something from the New Age section. 

Seriously, for me, too, were UYI the first complete GN'R albums I owned; I got AfD only later. They are an inherent part of my life. 

Plus, the first time I heard it was in 1992. I was 10 and became a fan that year. A friend of mine sold me the two cassettes for what would be a few Euro today. The band was everywhere. Mtv (which actually was quite a good music channel back then, with the Headbangers Ball and everything, but I don’t have to tell you that) aired the clips all the time, including CW from Tokyo. They played in Prague that year (the one with DC alt. lyrics), but I was too young to go (the times were very different, and it had only been 3 years since the fall of the totalitarian regime). Some Czech channel aired Paris 92 – I still vividly remember watching Axl walk around the stage, smoking, spitting, and talking in his very low voice (I didn’t understand what he was saying then, though). It was one of the moments where I was becoming a fan. My very first record was a cassette which was a mixture containing mostly UYI plus several AfD/Lies tracks. I learned a lot of English from the UYI lyrics (AfD didn’t have them in the booklet, and the internet hadn’t existed yet, obviously). I was absolutely stunned by the video clips. I got my first posters that year. GN’R were everywhere. Later I got my hands on the Tokyo VHSs, which I would borrow from a friend now and then and play it wherever I could (we didn’t have any VHS player at home). 
RNDTH, Don’t Cry, Perfect Crime, NR, Coma, GITR, Shotgun Blues, Breakdown, Estranged, YCBM… yeah, it all rocked. 
Has it been 30 years? Times, they are a-changin’, huh. 

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I bought the two albums together the release day. 
 

I remember ser the You Could Be Mine vid in june. Since this day can’t wait to buy the albums and see Terminator 2 in cinema.

 

I lived in a small town and had  classes this morning. I had to wait some hours after afternoom before the music store opened.

Today can remember when I open my cassettes and heard it in my room.

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I was too young to get them when they came out, but I bought them a few years later. They aged incredibly well. I still listen to them from time to time. I can't say that about every record I've listened to that often and for so long. They could have left a few songs off and Axl should have added less corny lines in some of the songs, but besides that, great records. 

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I was about 11, I knew Appetite inside out and bought the YCBM single on cassette - I wonder if that's still in my parents loft somewhere?  I definitely didn't get the albums when they came out - not sure why, but I probably didn't have any money.  When I finally got hold of the Illusions, I absolutely loved them - though it took a long time to fully get to grips with it all.  They were the biggest band in the world and were always in the papers (in the UK) - though usually for nefarious reasons.  I can remember everyone at school talking about the Freddie Mercury tribute concert appearance the following day.  I think that was the absolute peak of their popularity.

The older me can now appreciate some of the flaws of the albums, though I still enjoy them a great deal.  And, although I can make it a single album, I have no idea how the band would've managed it without blowing up before they even came out.

For what it's worth, my Ultimate Illusion tracklisting is as follows:

1) Civil War
2) Dust 'n' Bones
3) Bad Obsession
4) Perfect Crime
5) You Ain't The First
6) Breakdown
7) November Rain
8) Yesterdays
9) The Garden
10) Pretty Tied Up
11) Locomotive
12) Estranged

First half includes more of the Izzy/rock'n'roll stuff, second half more of the ambitious Axl/Slash stuff.  And no covers!  You're Guns n' Roses for crying out loud!

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I'm was 7 so I wasn't really into music yet but when I was 16 I picked them up at the same time. I already had appetite but was blown away by the Illusions and how many great songs were on them. It was at this point I knew GnR was my favorite band.  I think if you take the best 10/12 songs off of them and make one record (not that PA version from Walmart) it's truly better than Appetite.  I don't listen to them often as they are pretty long records and there are some skips on them but for real they have the best songs the band ever wrote. Love those albums 

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5 minutes ago, RussTCB said:

I've got a video about UYI coming to my vinyl YouTube channel tomorrow but I thought I'd share some memories that are not in that video. I'll make a thread for the video tomorrow when it's live :)

My two favorite memories involve just before and the day the albums were released. One memory is the first time I heard You Could Be Mine. 

My dad was a truck driver, so he had a car phone. And by "car phone", I mean the big black box thing that barely fit between the two front seats of our family van. My dad took the phone with him when he drove truck, but it would be in the family van when he wasn't on the road. We were reminded constantly to never touch it because calls were outrageous in price. So my mom was shopping in a store once and I was just sitting in the car listening to the local pop station. The car phone rang and I when answered my brother was yelling "TURN ON WRIF! TURN ON WRIF! THEY'RE PLAYING THE NEW GUNS N ROSES!". So I flipped over to WRIF and caught YCBM around the first chorus. My brother and I sat on the line together being like "THIS IS AMAZING! WHAT A JAM! OH MY GOD!". It was only after the song that we both realized we were going to be executed by our parents because of a $50 phone call lol. 

My second memory sucked when it happened but it's funny to look back on now, especially since my mom has passed away. The day UYI came out, I got my mom to take me to Sound Warehouse. There was a big floor standee with both CDs on it. I grabbed both and went to the record store. When we got to the register, my mom noticed the Parental Advisory stickers. My mom HATED the F word and immediately asked me if they said it on the album. I was like "well they didn't say it on their first album" lol. 

She asked the guy at the register if they said the F word on the album and he looked at me while I was standing behind my mom. I gave him this look of desperation like "please say no, please say no, please say no". He said "they're really not my thing so I haven't heard these albums but I know Axl swears a lot in concert, so maybe that's what they mean". My mom confirmed that she could return them if they said the F word and the guy said no problem. 

BOOM. I finally owned UYI. 

Here comes the problem. When we got in the car, I was dying to hear new GN'R music. I'd already heard Civil War at some point. So I put UYI I in...... what a stupid decision LOL. 

So you know what happened about half way through the song. As it was happening I was like "noooooooo" and my mom said "this is FILTH" then she did a U turn right there in the middle of a very busy road. Like......action movie car driver style U turn LOL. The tires on the car were squealing lol. 

Back to Sound Warehouse we went. My mom went in, slammed the CDs down on the counter, confirmed for the sales person that they were, in fact, filth, then got her money back. 

So I owned UYI for approximately 2 minutes on the day of release. This was devastating on that day but again, I can totally look back and laugh at it now. I had a friend from school tape his CDs for me a couple days later, which I promptly labeled "Paula Abdul" and "Pebbles" (two current pop artists at the time) and only played with my headphones on.

Long winded post, but hopefully someone finds it entertaining. I'll post the video about the albums in general tomorrow :)

Man, this is devastating and it still feels painful 30 years later. I'm so happy I live in a country where English is not the first language and I could get away with all of that stuff when I was just 8 years old or so, lol.

Like many of you I got into GNR through Terminator 2. I was a huge action movies/Schwarzenegger fan back then and when I saw the YCBM video with Arnold in it I was totally hooked. I soon managed to record YCBM from the radio, then I taped both UYI I and II from an older cousin a few months later. Eventually, I got both of them on cd in the summer of 93 and they still resist to this day.

Back in the days I liked UYI II more than I, I guess because it had YCBM. Nowadays, I equally love both of them. There are a few songs I don't mind much, but I wouldn't "merge" them as a shorter single record. They're good as is and some of the deep cuts are really amazing.

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