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Hard Skool Officially Released at Midnight - Sept 24


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3 minutes ago, oneway23 said:

Knew somebody was going to mention this one as soon as I typed that, but, come on?  No context and no comment?

#1 - Sabbath did it, sure, but, the band and the name Black Sabbath never really went away as a recording entity, did it? 

#2- Sabbath tried for over twenty years to record a reunion album, starting & stopping at least three times over the decades, before they finally hunkered down and got it done.  Also, they only re-united with Ozzy once Dio died, or else Heaven & Hell likely wouldn't have stopped.

#3 - Most importantly, IMO, Ozzy Tony or Geezer never stopped making recording and releasing albums like Axl did.  Say what you want about Ozzy on a reality show, or Ozzy's performances now, but, all three were ACTIVE recording and touring artists, each releasing numerous records, with numerous collaborators, for decades before reuniting.  Axl  stayed hunkered down in a bunker for nearly fifteen years, for the most part, second-guessing himself, and largely outside of the public eye, aside from a handful of tours.

 Not even closely comparable.

You're right about different contexts. In terms of activity, except Axl, the rest of the band has been as active as BS members mentioned above. But yeah I agree this is a very important factor.

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11 minutes ago, ©GnrPersia said:

Say what you want about CD being over produced etc. BUT the final release wasn't as badly mixed (rushed I would say), clusterfuck, patchwork and mashup of different tracks like HS and Absurd. Even when it comes to artwork, it's obvious there is zero fucks given. HS coverart is taken from a stock image lol

This band is finished since 2012. There were some glimpes of excitement like the reunion in 2016 but that's it.

So what are You doing here ?!? So lame  

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25 minutes ago, GNR_RNR said:

Agreed, I think people here just like to complain about mixes endlessly. 
 

I’m sure if people go looking for things they could have done differently in the mix they’ll find them. But the song still kicks ass. 

Yep, that's exactly it. People are just looking for a reason to complain. It couldn't be that most or all of us know the difference between good mixing and bad mixing. 

Imagine coming here just to complain about something. That would be just as ridiculous as only visiting the site to look for something negative from the posters here. 

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4 minutes ago, axljungle said:

Just bought the single and sounds better than youtube vid. It's the first time that buy music digitally.

I've only listened through Spotify in the car so far and it was pretty bad sound wise. 

I'm looking forward to listening to it through my main stereo later from Tidal MQA. I'm hoping that'll help the sound. 

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Just now, RussTCB said:

I've only listened through Spotify in the car so far and it was pretty bad sound wise. 

I'm looking forward to listening to it through my main stereo later from Tidal MQA. I'm hoping that'll help the sound. 

I don't have spotify account, allways buy music phisically (Don't know if it's correct, speak english very bad). Only heard the song through youtube.

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1 minute ago, oneway23 said:

Hard Skool is a great song!  Are we obligated to think it's perfect, though?

Definitely not, but honestly, based on how much diehards complains, I'm starting to actually buy into the whole "Axl is a perfectionist" shit and that's why releases haven't happened because daaaaamn, you definitely can't 100% please any of them.

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1 minute ago, RussTCB said:

I've only listened through Spotify in the car so far and it was pretty bad sound wise. 

I'm looking forward to listening to it through my main stereo later from Tidal MQA. I'm hoping that'll help the sound. 

I literally came here to post about the "car stereo" test. I know Axl brought that up around the release of ChiDem, saying he purposefully would play the songs on car stereos (or in strip clubs) to test the sound in different environments. Despite the "epic" production on that album's tracks, I can still enjoy listening to the tracks on crappy speakers or headphones. However, with Hard Skool especially I find my enjoyment of the song goes up exponentially when listening on superior speakers/headphones.

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3 minutes ago, Ak1nney said:

Well, I've noticed that just about everyone that doesn't like it is obsessed with the leaks and the previous version. That's a weird reality to have to live in. The leaks shouldn't exist and the band isn't going to go in and re-record every part just because you've already heard it. If Axl had re-recorded vocals, yet they were the exact same melodies and notes, the bitching would be "why record new vocals if they sound the same?!". Say what you want about "opinions", but a chunk of the negativity is just whining. Almost like some of you wished Slash/Duff would have stayed away. Then you would have your leaks and nothing else, because these clearly weren't ever going to see the light of day until now. You knew what you were getting with Hard Skool before it was even released...

I bet if this song was never on a leak and it was promoted as a new song, even with a BS photo of them in the studio, people would be dying over how amazing that is and would know no different. I put the song on, crank it up, and am enjoying the shit out of it. Sucks to be the people that want to nitpick that 20 fucking year old drums aren't on a track, while bashing great 20 year old vocal takes because of their age. That doesn't make sense. Can't have it both ways. 

I know this can be a mind-blowing concept to some here, but, opinions vary...Crazy!

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3 minutes ago, axljungle said:

I don't have spotify account, allways buy music phisically (Don't know if it's correct, speak english very bad). Only heard the song through youtube.

If/when it's available physically I'll buy it. I'd prefer vinyl but I'll buy it on CD if I have to. 

3 minutes ago, Amir said:

I literally came here to post about the "car stereo" test. I know Axl brought that up around the release of ChiDem, saying he purposefully would play the songs on car stereos (or in strip clubs) to test the sound in different environments. Despite the "epic" production on that album's tracks, I can still enjoy listening to the tracks on crappy speakers or headphones. However, with Hard Skool especially I find my enjoyment of the song goes up exponentially when listening on superior speakers/headphones.

Right on, I'm assuming I'll feel the same way later tonight when I get to test it through my main setup. 

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7 minutes ago, Ak1nney said:

Well, I've noticed that just about everyone that doesn't like it is obsessed with the leaks and the previous version. That's a weird reality to have to live in. The leaks shouldn't exist and the band isn't going to go in and re-record every part just because you've already heard it. If Axl had re-recorded vocals, yet they were the exact same melodies and notes, the bitching would be "why record new vocals if they sound the same?!". Say what you want about "opinions", but a chunk of the negativity is just whining. Almost like some of you wished Slash/Duff would have stayed away. Then you would have your leaks and nothing else, because these clearly weren't ever going to see the light of day until now. You knew what you were getting with Hard Skool before it was even released...

I bet if this song was never on a leak and it was promoted as a new song, even with a BS photo of them in the studio, people would be dying over how amazing that is and would know no different. I put the song on, crank it up, and am enjoying the shit out of it. Sucks to be the people that want to nitpick that 20 fucking year old drums aren't on a track, while bashing great 20 year old vocal takes because of their age. That doesn't make sense. Can't have it both ways. 

 

Agree 100%. There is no chance Axl would sound equal or better if he did new vocals on this song. He sounded great on the original leak. No need to mess with that. I'm glad we got Slash & Duff's additions on this new version. I'm glad we have the demo version as well. It's nice to have both versions. It's a kickass song, no matter which version. 

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10 minutes ago, Ak1nney said:

Well, I've noticed that just about everyone that doesn't like it is obsessed with the leaks and the previous version. That's a weird reality to have to live in. The leaks shouldn't exist and the band isn't going to go in and re-record every part just because you've already heard it. If Axl had re-recorded vocals, yet they were the exact same melodies and notes, the bitching would be "why record new vocals if they sound the same?!". Say what you want about "opinions", but a chunk of the negativity is just whining. Almost like some of you wished Slash/Duff would have stayed away. Then you would have your leaks and nothing else, because these clearly weren't ever going to see the light of day until now. You knew what you were getting with Hard Skool before it was even released...

I bet if this song was never on a leak and it was promoted as a new song, even with a BS photo of them in the studio, people would be dying over how amazing that is and would know no different. I put the song on, crank it up, and am enjoying the shit out of it. Sucks to be the people that want to nitpick that 20 fucking year old drums aren't on a track, while bashing great 20 year old vocal takes because of their age. That doesn't make sense. Can't have it both ways. 

I wish the leaks didn't happen at all. 

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I like the song, more than I thought I would. But my expectations were on low end after Absurd, and Hard Skool impressed me. 

Perhaps some of you should reevaluate your expectations perhaps? Guns are NEVER going to top Appetite, Jungle, PC, SCOM, NR, etc. It's just NOT going to happen, I've excepted that. But can they give us more music along the lines of Dont't Damn me, Garden or Eden, Right Next door to hell, Thinking bout you, etc? Before yesterday, I would have said no. But they did, I would ABSOLUTELY put Hard Skool next to the songs I just mentioned.

So in my book, it's a big win.

4 minutes ago, RussTCB said:

If/when it's available physically I'll buy it. I'd prefer vinyl but I'll buy it on CD if I have to. 

Right on, I'm assuming I'll feel the same way later tonight when I get to test it through my main setup. 

I hear ya. I avoid buying CD's at this point. Why even bother? If I want a physical item, vinyl for me as well. On top of that, I'll download it.

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8 minutes ago, Ak1nney said:

Well, I've noticed that just about everyone that doesn't like it is obsessed with the leaks and the previous version. That's a weird reality to have to live in. The leaks shouldn't exist and the band isn't going to go in and re-record every part just because you've already heard it. If Axl had re-recorded vocals, yet they were the exact same melodies and notes, the bitching would be "why record new vocals if they sound the same?!". Say what you want about "opinions", but a chunk of the negativity is just whining. Almost like some of you wished Slash/Duff would have stayed away. Then you would have your leaks and nothing else, because these clearly weren't ever going to see the light of day until now. You knew what you were getting with Hard Skool before it was even released...

I bet if this song was never on a leak and it was promoted as a new song, even with a BS photo of them in the studio, people would be dying over how amazing that is and would know no different. I put the song on, crank it up, and am enjoying the shit out of it. Sucks to be the people that want to nitpick that 20 fucking year old drums aren't on a track, while bashing great 20 year old vocal takes because of their age. That doesn't make sense. Can't have it both ways. 

Out of likes, but this is a great post.

I give no fucks that HS has an old vocal take. Why re-record it for the sake of it when it has a perfectly good vocal to begin with? I guess fans want some reassurance that Axl is still a studio singer, but I don't know why the likes of @Pele are so obsessed and convinced that Axl is incapable/unwilling to lay down new vocals. Where did he pull Rock The Rock from? His ass?

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13 minutes ago, Ak1nney said:

Well, I've noticed that just about everyone that doesn't like it is obsessed with the leaks and the previous version. That's a weird reality to have to live in. The leaks shouldn't exist and the band isn't going to go in and re-record every part just because you've already heard it. If Axl had re-recorded vocals, yet they were the exact same melodies and notes, the bitching would be "why record new vocals if they sound the same?!". Say what you want about "opinions", but a chunk of the negativity is just whining. Almost like some of you wished Slash/Duff would have stayed away. Then you would have your leaks and nothing else, because these clearly weren't ever going to see the light of day until now. You knew what you were getting with Hard Skool before it was even released...

I bet if this song was never on a leak and it was promoted as a new song, even with a BS photo of them in the studio, people would be dying over how amazing that is and would know no different. I put the song on, crank it up, and am enjoying the shit out of it. Sucks to be the people that want to nitpick that 20 fucking year old drums aren't on a track, while bashing great 20 year old vocal takes because of their age. That doesn't make sense. Can't have it both ways. 

I disagree, for this band who refuse to put out regular material for 15 years then another 13 years i'm afraid we rely on leaks. 

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