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Hard Skool Officially Released at Midnight - Sept 24


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1 minute ago, History2010 said:

why the fuck is a 7” vinyl selling for $30? It's not shipping out until June but that doesn't shock me since the pandemic messed everything up with the vinyl factories.

I guess it's just because of the demand. They know it will be the most requested format and they will try to milk as much money from it as possible. And they put studio Absurd and the other live tracks on the cd to give people a reason to buy that "not so much liked anymore" format too.

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1 minute ago, Martin Riggs said:

Of course the new Coldplay song with BTS has been out 19 hours as well and it has 15 million views…so there is room for improvement.

It's just not realistic to expect those kind of numbers from GN'R at this point. They are a legacy band with a strong audience but they will never match what current acts are doing. They have to be judged at a different standard. 

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41 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said:

I'm most interested in the live version of You're Crazy... not a bad little EP to drop before an album comes out next year :awesomeface:

I wonder which shows they are sourcing the live tracks from. I heard a couple versions of Crazy and they were rough...

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1 minute ago, kever20 said:

I wonder which shows they are sourcing the live tracks from. I heard a couple versions of Crazy and they were rough...

Maybe Uncle Axl has rerecorded some of the vocal lines in the studio? 

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10 minutes ago, janrichmond said:

Give it a shot, I was pleasantly surprised. It sounds better than anything off CD.

I'm kinda loving it now :slash:

Ah now, I know you don't like Chinese! but let's be reasonable!😄 Good song but if it was on Chinese it's in the discussion for top 4 rockers on the album, not best song on the album!

The rocker order would go 1. Chinese 2. Better  3. Shacklers 4. Hard Skool ...it's better than Scraped and Rhiad though!😜 

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Just now, Tom2112 said:

Ah now, I know you don't like Chinese! but let's be reasonable!😄 Good song but if it was on Chinese it's in the discussion for top 4 rockers on the album, not best song on the album!

The rocker order would go 1. Chinese 2. Better  3. Shacklers 4. Hard Skool ...it's better than Scraped and Rhiad though!😜 

I’d actually rate this the number 1 rocker from CD!
 

Miles above anything on that album (and I love CD), way more immediate and has a strong chorus. 

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23 minutes ago, Martin Riggs said:

I think it’s too early to tell but it seems to be doing pretty well. 300,000+ views on YouTube the last 19 hours seems to be a fairly good start. Of course the new Coldplay song with BTS has been out 19 hours as well and it has 15 million views…so there is room for improvement. 

I heard of Coldplay but what in the world is BTS?

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49 minutes ago, janrichmond said:

Give it a shot, I was pleasantly surprised. It sounds better than anything off CD.

I'm kinda loving it now :slash:

Mehhhhh. I obviously respect your opinion and have similar taste but I'm good for now..

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5 minutes ago, Tom2112 said:

Ah now, I know you don't like Chinese! but let's be reasonable!😄 Good song but if it was on Chinese it's in the discussion for top 4 rockers on the album, not best song on the album!

The rocker order would go 1. Chinese 2. Better  3. Shacklers 4. Hard Skool ...it's better than Scraped and Rhiad though!😜 

If I had to compare with those tracks, beyond any doubt the only song that stand a chance is Better.

And as a rocker, Hard Skool more appealing to wider audiences.

better is a more complex song. 
 

The rest of the material had aged very very bad (refering to those songs you mentioned, I still love a lot of stuff on the CD, specially Prostitute).

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46 minutes ago, History2010 said:

why the fuck is a 7” vinyl selling for $30? It's not shipping out until June but that doesn't shock me since the pandemic messed everything up with the vinyl factories.

I think they may have mixed up the price of the 7" single with that of a full length LP.

Which begs the question: Could there be a full length LP before the end of this year?

 

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18 minutes ago, Martin Riggs said:

I think it’s too early to tell but it seems to be doing pretty well. 300,000+ views on YouTube the last 19 hours seems to be a fairly good start. Of course the new Coldplay song with BTS has been out 19 hours as well and it has 15 million views…so there is room for improvement. 

Coldplay are also happy to promote and work so that media outlets regularly play and write about their new material. They also have videos to supplement the music and they teamed up with a hip younger group. Coldplay are also much, much bigger with a wider audience.

I am not totally sure GNR are trying to compete though, I mean if they are, this is embarrassing😅 They haven't a music video or lyric video, they have barely acknowledged the song(s) outside of a few tweets and Axl introing Absurd live on the debut 

 

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2 minutes ago, Old_school_gnr_fan said:

I think they may have mixed up the price of the 7" single with that of a full length LP.

Which begs the question: Could there be a full length LP before the end of this year?

The price of the 7'' has dropped and it's $18 now. See the separate thread:

https://www.mygnrforum.com/topic/224710-physical-copies-of-hard-skool-available-for-pre-order/

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1 hour ago, Blackstar said:

I haven't looked at comments on music sites articles that much, but the comments on the band's social media are very positive - almost all comments on Slash's IG are positive. Of course there are some comments (maybe from mygnrforum members? :lol:) trying to rain on the casuals' parade by informing them that it's a leftover from the CD sessions and the vocals are 20 years old :lol:

Yeah, i read comments in FB, is like you said.

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7 minutes ago, Bernardo_Seccadio said:

If I had to compare with those tracks, beyond any doubt the only song that stand a chance is Better.

And as a rocker, Hard Skool more appealing to wider audiences.

better is a more complex song. 
 

The rest of the material had aged very very bad (refering to those songs you mentioned, I still love a lot of stuff on the CD, specially Prostitute).

I just chose those as they were the rock songs, I also think TWAT, Madagascar, This I love and bunch of others are far better songs😄

Commercially yes, Hard Skool will be more popular and appeal to a wider fanbase because it ties in with that old GNR sound. However, I think objectively Better has a much more earworm chorus that would stay with you after a listen, hard Skool is fun but not memorable. 

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Not to be negative because I'm stoked GnR is actually releasing music, but I just can't get into this release because I find the original leaked version to be superior in every way ... There's not one part of "Hard Skool" I think was done better than "Hard School" .. I feel the same about "Absurd" & "Silkworms" as well ... Slash & Duff just didn't make this song better or even as good ... 

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2 hours ago, Tom-Ass said:

Haven't gotten as many texts about this song as Absurd but got a few. All big fans

One friend said it rips but using old vocals feels cheep.  He was happy to hear it on the radio today.

My Uncle who is at last nights show just said "Its OK.. better than Absurd I guess"

My cousin also a big fan.. Went to Vegas with me in 2016.. Said he listened to it once and they need to stop with Frankenstein CD songs bullshit..

I still can't get myself to listen to it..

 

You still haven't listened to it?

I assume you'll have the same issues as many of us - it's a frankenstein song with a subpar mix - but, if nothing else, there's some cool parts from Slash. It feels like the kind of song that's gonna work better live (as long as Axl doesn't completely butcher it.)

It's definitely better than Absurd... not that that's a high bar :lol:

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Not bad. Very old GnR sounding (as in 1980's GnR).  Was this song , aka "Jackie Chan", one of the final tracks the original band was working on in 1996 before disbanding? I vaguely remember Duff mentioning "Jackie Chan" as one of the new songs they were working on in a late 90's interview with Howard Stern right before he left the band.

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1 hour ago, kever20 said:

I wonder which shows they are sourcing the live tracks from. I heard a couple versions of Crazy and they were rough...

 

The first few shows were rough but Atlantic City had good versions of Crazy... I think there was a pretty good Don't Cry from one of those as well. There's a few performances from this year that would be fine to release as b-sides.

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