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Okay I understand it now.

On the cassette format, both HardSkool and Absurd are on Side A, rather than Absurd being on Side B with the live tracks.

Thats why this counts as an EP instead of a maxi-single. Same situation as Nirvana’s Blew EP, actually.

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21 minutes ago, rocknroll41 said:

Okay I understand it now.

On the cassette format, both HardSkool and Absurd are on Side A, rather than Absurd being on Side B with the live tracks.

Thats why this counts as an EP instead of a maxi-single. Same situation as Nirvana’s Blew EP, actually.

Or it's more convenient to have two songs on every side. Play two songs, flip side, play the other two songs with little or no FF/RW.

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51 minutes ago, drlaban said:

Or it's more convenient to have two songs on every side. Play two songs, flip side, play the other two songs with little or no FF/RW.

That too, yeah.

EDIT: Just went thru the band’s single discography and it looks like the only maxi singles which had more than one track on the a-side were WttJ (with the live version of Whole Lotta Rosie on the a-side) and SCOM (with MttC on the a-side), whereas HardSkool is two new studio tracks on on the a-side that aren’t tied to different albums (or any album, as far as we know). So I guess that’s the distinction. Again, Nirvana’s Blew EP had two tracks from the Bleach album both on the a-side yet the release wasn’t labeled as a split single or anything, so a similar scenario, I guess (shrugs).

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21 hours ago, GoForJMark said:

That's the problem with wikipedia, anyone can input useless shit. Have you seen Absurd on wiki? I had my fun removing the "Alternative Nation's Brett Buchanan" line on the page and the clickbate fucker keeps putting it back as if he's a credible writer. :lol:

You're doing God's work.

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22 hours ago, GoForJMark said:

That's the problem with wikipedia, anyone can input useless shit. Have you seen Absurd on wiki? I had my fun removing the "Alternative Nation's Brett Buchanan" line on the page and the clickbate fucker keeps putting it back as if he's a credible writer. :lol:

Wow that's pathetic. I'm gonna check by every now and again to remove that shit too

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Not sure if this was intentional or not, but it’s kinda interesting how the four tracks on this EP are sorta like a retrospective of all the different GnR eras.

Hard Skool - most people see this song as new

Absurd - a bunch of people probably recognize this as Silkworms from Rock in Rio 3

Dont Cry (Live) - represents UYI

Youre Crazy (Live) - represents AFD/Lies

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On 10/1/2021 at 12:37 AM, GoForJMark said:

That's the problem with wikipedia, anyone can input useless shit. Have you seen Absurd on wiki? I had my fun removing the "Alternative Nation's Brett Buchanan" line on the page and the clickbate fucker keeps putting it back as if he's a credible writer. :lol:

I like to think that Axl's infamous "he's a cancer" line was actually about Brett Buchanan.

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They played the song on Joe Elliots show at 6pm on Planet Rock. He made a big deal about it being the first stuff with Axl/Slash/Duff since The Spaghetti Incident…..clearly ignoring Sympathy For The Devil and crucially - seemingly oblivious to the fact Absurd even exists. 🤣

He legit sounded happy about the track TBF.

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I guess another factor to take into account is how Absurd and HardSkool came out so close to one another, yet HardSkool is getting much more treatment. I guess that alone is enough reason to call HardSkool an EP instead of a maxi single.

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18 hours ago, Basic_GnR_Fan said:

The break in Hardskool is quickly becoming one of my GnR favorites. Woe to those who said it felt out of place and slowed the song down too much.

Unlike the break in absurd I think it's perfect.  It's so good

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I've have every incarnation of this song, from the original 14 second Jackie Chan clip to the official release, and i think this version absolutely rocks. If this ends up being the last new music we get from them, not a bad way to go out.

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19 hours ago, Basic_GnR_Fan said:

The break in Hardskool is quickly becoming one of my GnR favorites. Woe to those who said it felt out of place and slowed the song down too much.

I quite like it too, it is definitely a melodic callback to The Garden in a way, and I am totally digging it.  The break in particular to me is the most " UYI-esque" thing to come out of GNR since the breakup

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18 minutes ago, WhazUp said:

I quite like it too, it is definitely a melodic callback to The Garden in a way, and I am totally digging it.  The break in particular to me is the most " UYI-esque" thing to come out of GNR since the breakup

Yeah, I agree. I love it. Wish they would revert back to that UYI sound. Not Chinese Democracy or any Industrial/Electronic/Rock fusion stuff.

A return to classic UYI sound and type-songs would get so much positive attention globally in my opinion, and serve their interests the best with their seemingly endless desire to tour. Axl at the bare minimum can probably punch out great songs like that (UYI type hard rock), with the potential that the odd one or two may actually be incredible now, with Slash and Duff involved. 

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On 9/23/2021 at 2:00 PM, ZoSoRose said:

Silkworms and Checkmate are now officially part of the GNR discography. What a year

I've said it before but we really are living in a truly bizarre parallel universe where Slash and Duff reunited with Axl yet the first song they released was Silkworms. Proves you can never second guess this band!

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On 9/28/2021 at 2:27 PM, zombux said:

well, my honest review comes here.

what I like: bass line is cool; guitars are kinda good - not stellar but decent; vocal track is the old one, but fine; after a few listens at decent speakers, it grows on me a bit; they got rid of the intro which made the song start too slowly

what I dislike: the final part of the song used to be the grand finale of pure guitar madness, instead of that it now just kinda ends; drums and vocals are mixed bad - vox are not as distinct as I'd like

what I hate: the bridge is completely unneccessary and sucks; drums themselves are the worst thing on this - Freese's old track with drum snare leading to choruses is far superior in building up the track dynamic, while the 2021 track sounds very basic and uninspired

what I get amused by: Eye On You vocals sampled in the bridge

overall - 5/10 (as compared to Absurd which I rate 7/10)

so, after a barrage of listenings, my own status update.

 

the song grew on me quite a bit. I really like the bass as well as the guitar tracks all over. 

glad they dropped the old stupid intro, now it goes straight into it (nevermind the dumb schoolbell, fuck it).

the first part of the song is definitely better to me than the old one, it has much more entertaining stuff going on, guitars and bass really own the song - the old one sound like a placeholder in there

then comes the guitar solo part - here it starts changing and I still prefer the old one, maybe by not a big margin, but I do

the bridge still sucks A LOT, I prefer the old one, but both are crap.

and then comes the final part after the bridge, which is massively better at the old version, while the new version just doesn't make it good enough.

and yes, drums and mix still suck, but oh well. on a decent audio speakers, it is fine.

 

7/10, just as Absurd. both are fine, if they keep delivering more Village sessions this way, I won't be too excited but it will be cool, I don't hate it :)

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