Who plays the drums on Hard Skool?

[Sosso]

What do you think??? 

Edited September 23, 2021 by Sosso

[WhazUp]

It is a totally different drum arrangement and part than the old leak so I am guessing Frank but need to hear it on my good speakers and cans to make a better judgement call

[Sosso]

2 minutes ago, WhazUp said:

It is a totally different drum arrangement and part than the old leak so I am guessing Frank but need to hear it on my good speakers and cans to make a better judgement call

They could have used new arrangements from 2004/05 and Brain was still their drummer back then. 

[WhazUp]

4 minutes ago, Sosso said:

They could have used new arrangements from 2004/05 and Brain was still their drummer back then. 

That is possible, like Absurd, however I am still leaning towards Frank because as of now I am assuming the new bass intro and parts trimmed from the Village Sessions version stem from Duff and Slash doing their thing with it and Frank doing his thing with that.  And the vibe and drum sound to me sounds more like whoever played on the "new" SOYL than it does Absurd IMO

 

Plus Brain I know mentioned how he re-recorded Josh's parts close to verbatim and this is fairly different so that just is my best guess atm

 

But this is GNR so who the hell knows lol.  It could be Brian drums with Absurd snare up 1db with Frank cymbal crashes

Edited September 23, 2021 by WhazUp

[MaskingApathy]

Maybe it'll say in the YouTube video description when it goes live later.

[ShadowOfTheWave]

It actually has some groove to it so I'm assuming Frank.

[BillConnor_1982]

Probably a few high hat hits from Freese, bass drums from Brain, a few snares of Frank at 1:15, and maybe Kenny Aronoff during the breakdown between a bass hit from Frank and a snare sample from Silkworms that was used in the TWAT (Drums up 3dB Version)

Edited September 23, 2021 by BillConnor_1982

[Dean]

Just now, BillConnor_1982 said:

Probably a few high hat hits from Freese, bass drums from Brain, a few snares of Frank at 1:15, and maybe Kenny Aronoff during the breakdown between a bass hit from Frank and a snare sample from Silkworms

Adler cowbell samples from outtakes from the Appetite sessions too?

[megaguns1982]

Throw away an awesome drum take by brain and slap on a shitty frank take…. Wtf is wrong with this band?

[Manfisman]

The drummer

 

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Nah, I would guess Brain. But I don't really know

[Blackstar]

9 minutes ago, MaskingApathy said:

Maybe it'll say in the YouTube video description when it goes live later.

Yes, it'll say it if it's Brain. If it doesn't say anything and it's just "Guns N' Roses" it means it's Frank.

Same applies for other former members (some people have assumed that there's Buckethead guitars, but I don't think so).

[Nick85]

Without having any real idea, I'm going to say that it's Frank on this one.

[Teroz]

35 minutes ago, ShadowOfTheWave said:

It actually has some groove to it so I'm assuming Frank.

Brains groove kills Frank

[rocco]

I‘m 99% sure that the drums are programmed. They sound like every other modern metal band, way too clean, and there are some weird things going on that no real drummer would play, e.g. the sudden switch from hihat to the crash cymbal right before the first verse at around 0:15, 0:16ish. The cymbals sound kinda robotic as well. Like I said, pretty sure it‘s programmed as it‘s common practice nowadays, unfortunately.

PS: The drums on Absurd sound way more organic, even though it‘s a copy/paste job and I‘m sure there‘s some samples as well, but the overall groove feels organic.

[Sosso]

6 minutes ago, rocco said:

I‘m 99% sure that the drums are programmed. They sound like every other modern metal band, way too clean, and there are some weird things going on that no real drummer would play, e.g. the sudden switch from hihat to the crash cymbal right before the first verse at around 0:15, 0:16ish. The cymbals sound kinda robotic as well. Like I said, pretty sure it‘s programmed as it‘s common practice nowadays, unfortunately.

PS: The drums on Absurd sound way more organic, even though it‘s a copy/paste job and I‘m sure there‘s some samples as well, but the overall groove feels organic.

Good theory. The drums could have been programmed by Brain / Melissa. 

[Powerage5]

2 hours ago, megaguns1982 said:

Throw away an awesome drum take by brain and slap on a shitty frank take…. Wtf is wrong with this band?

Freese played on the demo allegedly, not Brain. 

[GNFNRUK]

13 minutes ago, rocco said:

I‘m 99% sure that the drums are programmed. They sound like every other modern metal band, way too clean, and there are some weird things going on that no real drummer would play, e.g. the sudden switch from hihat to the crash cymbal right before the first verse at around 0:15, 0:16ish. The cymbals sound kinda robotic as well. Like I said, pretty sure it‘s programmed as it‘s common practice nowadays, unfortunately.

PS: The drums on Absurd sound way more organic, even though it‘s a copy/paste job and I‘m sure there‘s some samples as well, but the overall groove feels organic.

Came here to say this. They definitely sound programmed. I’m not sure why they didn’t just use the original drum track from the demo like they did with Absurd? The drums were 100 times better on the demo, I miss the little drum fills before the chorus.

[Sweersa]

2 hours ago, WhazUp said:

Plus Brain I know mentioned how he re-recorded Josh's parts close to verbatim and this is fairly different so that just is my best guess atm

Brain did that initially, then he recorded them again as "new Brain drums"

[RussTCB]

32 minutes ago, rocco said:

I‘m 99% sure that the drums are programmed. They sound like every other modern metal band, way too clean, and there are some weird things going on that no real drummer would play, e.g. the sudden switch from hihat to the crash cymbal right before the first verse at around 0:15, 0:16ish. The cymbals sound kinda robotic as well. Like I said, pretty sure it‘s programmed as it‘s common practice nowadays, unfortunately.

PS: The drums on Absurd sound way more organic, even though it‘s a copy/paste job and I‘m sure there‘s some samples as well, but the overall groove feels organic.

Everyone is gonna be arguing about whether it's Brain or Frank and the drum machine is just gonna be over there quietly doing its job. 

[Twinaleblood]

YouTube just says Guns N'Roses, so that most likely confirms it's Frank

[Voodoochild]

45 minutes ago, rocco said:

I‘m 99% sure that the drums are programmed. They sound like every other modern metal band, way too clean, and there are some weird things going on that no real drummer would play, e.g. the sudden switch from hihat to the crash cymbal right before the first verse at around 0:15, 0:16ish. The cymbals sound kinda robotic as well. Like I said, pretty sure it‘s programmed as it‘s common practice nowadays, unfortunately.

PS: The drums on Absurd sound way more organic, even though it‘s a copy/paste job and I‘m sure there‘s some samples as well, but the overall groove feels organic.

To me sounds like a real drummer but quantisized on Pro Tools (which removes a lot of the soul and groove from the performance, obviously). 

To me it sounds like Frank's kit. But I'm no drummer.

2 hours ago, Blackstar said:

Same applies for other former members (some people have assumed that there's Buckethead guitars, but I don't think so).

I'm fairly sure there's no Buckethead in this one. But Absurd had it in the intro, even though it seems like they were treating that as a sample.

[Blackstar]

13 minutes ago, Voodoochild said:

I'm fairly sure there's no Buckethead in this one. But Absurd had it in the intro, even though it seems like they were treating that as a sample.

Yeah, that was a minuscule part on Absurd. But it doesn't seem there's anything like that on this one.

Do you think Richard is on this one or is it just Slash?

[31illusions]

This is Frank 100%. I know his sloppy-ass drumming anywhere.

Josh Freese plays on the Demo.

[Voodoochild]

18 minutes ago, Blackstar said:

Yeah, that was a minuscule part on Absurd. But it doesn't seem there's anything like that on this one.

Do you think Richard is on this one or is it just Slash?

I think that's Richard, sounds like his tone. But not 100% sure.

[Nick85]

I hope it’s Frank. Guy’s earned his stripes and deserves to be featured prominently on a killer track.