Popular Post RussTCB Posted October 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2021 Prior to the start of this tour, I along with many others, was VERY negative about the future of GN'R. Then the tour kicked off in Hershey and things didn't get in any better. Soon after, things changed rapidly for many of us. What happened? Well obviously the complete shock of Absurd not only being played live but being released by surprise was a big booster. It wasn't just that though. Even with the "same old setlist" plus Absurd, the band were playing together far better than previous tours. On top of that, Axl seemed to be a in better mood and more entertaining with every show. Was Axl perfect vocally? Not even close BUT it was clear to many of us that the effort was there. Long standing issues many of us had were being addressed too. As minor as it may seem, just moving songs around in the setlist seemed to give the shows new life. They piled on to that by bringing some cuts back (SOYL & Coma) and continuing to shuffle things around outside of the opening stretch of each show. So we were all (well, most of us) happy right? GN'R was doing so many things we've begged for in the live show and on top of all of that, we had the first two new GN'R songs released in 13 years. Plus a physical product from GN'R with new music to boot! So....what happens now? I know many of us, myself very much included give GN'R and Team Brazil a hard time because they never seem to do anything near what we think they should. Personally, I find myself feeling bad for the whole organization for the first time in........well, maybe ever? Some might disagree but I really feel like they had the wheels in motion to be doing all the right things. Now, due to circumstances completely out of their control, everything comes to a hault. Who knows what the plans were for Mexico & Australia, but if there were plans, they don't get to execute them. That sucks. For GN'R, TB and for us. Personally, I'm crossing my fingers that someone had contingency plans in place before this tour started. They had to have known that Australia was doubtful at best and even if Mexico wasn't on their radar, I hope someone considered the possibility of postponement because it happened. So what does everyone think is going to happen now? More planned singles even though they can't tour to support them? Impromptu, smaller venue shows in the US? A streak of shows in Las Vegas? Total silence? What do you think?? 15 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WAR™ Posted October 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2021 SMKC is next at the moment 10 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoulMonster Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, RussTCB said: Personally, I'm crossing my fingers that someone had contingency plans in place before this tour started. They had to have known that Australia was doubtful at best and even if Mexico wasn't on their radar, I hope someone considered the possibility of postponement because it happened. They did realize parts of the tour would likely be postponed or cancelled back when the tour was about to start. This is not me being pelesque and stating my beliefs as truth, I know they did. As for what any contingency plans might have been - I have no idea. I wouldn't be surprised if the band goes on hiatus until next summer. Or that they announce (or not) some new US dates. We will have to wait and see. I don't think we will be getting any new music when the band is not touring. So maybe to coincide with the tour next summer? Maybe not. To me personally, 2021 hasn't been much different than any other year after 2008, except for the release of Absurd and Hard Skool. I am cautiously optimistic that more new music will come at some point. Edited October 4, 2021 by SoulMonster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
betterman Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Recording more songs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gnfnrs1972 Posted October 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2021 Total silence as usual. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Eric Cantona Posted October 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2021 Honestly I don’t think anything will happen for at least a few years. I believe everyone expecting an album soon are setting themselves up for disappointment. Also willing to bet that they won’t play any shows (impromtu or one offs) until the next leg. For some reason I’m back to being disillusioned with the band, even though this may well be the best year for GNR since 2016. Maybe I’m realizing that these are old men reliving their past with seemingly no will to move forward and adapt. It’s just not exciting anymore. I can’t see what people mean by this being a great tour for Axl. He sounds really bad, and the worst thing is it’s not because he doesn’t try. It’s a little sad to see, and it’s not going to get any better. They could do so much cool stuff yet choose to do nothing with their remaining potential. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted October 4, 2021 Author Share Posted October 4, 2021 4 minutes ago, WAR™ said: SMKC is next at the moment Right, but there were GN'R plans in place for between now and then. So I'm asking if anyone thinks they'll do something to replace those plans. 3 minutes ago, gnfnrs1972 said: Total silence as usual. Damn, you're probably right but I sure hope not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralphelmo Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 It's full throttle SMKC for Slash now. Alter Bridge will enter studio on apirl/may and that will be the moment when SMKC tour stops. I don't expect anything from GNR till the next leg of the tour. Total silence. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
default_ Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 (edited) The normal thing to do would be keep the momentum by releasing a third single and then an album, but I dont think thats gonna happen. After the release of Absurd and Hardschool, im kind of unsure about whats going to happen, they can drop a new single anytime or go completely radio silent. These guys are unpredictable. Edited October 4, 2021 by default_ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussTCB Posted October 4, 2021 Author Share Posted October 4, 2021 5 minutes ago, SoulMonster said: They did realize parts of the tour would likely be postponed or cancelled back when the tour was about to start. This is not me being pelesque and stating my beliefs as truth, I know they did. As for what any contingency plans might have been - I have no idea. I wouldn't be surprised if the band goes on hiatus until next summer. Or that they announce (or not) some new US dates. We will have to wait and see. I don't think we will be getting any new when the band is not touring. So maybe to coincide with the tour next summer? Maybe not. To me personally, 2021 hasn't been much different than any other year after 2008, except for the release of Absurd and Hard Skool. I am cautiously optimistic that more new music will come at some point. It's good to know that they were aware. It gives me hope that there might be contingency plans. I don't think we'll get anything when they're not touring but a man (even a grizzled GN'R fan) can hope haha. Lastly, for me there was a huge change between this tour and the last several. It stopped feeling like they were just going through the motions for many reasons, at least for me. 7 minutes ago, betterman said: Recording more songs! Crossing my fingers this could be true. 2 minutes ago, Ralphelmo said: It's full throttle SMKC for Slash now. Alter Bridge will enter studio on apirl/may and that will be the moment when SMKC tour stops. I don't expect anything from GNR till the next leg of the tour. Total silence. I'm so hoping that isn't the case. I really hope they find a way to fill the space with the plans they had between now and the SMKC plans. 2 minutes ago, default_ said: The normal thing to do would be keep the momentum by releasing a third single and then an album, but I dont think thats gonna happen. After the release of Absurd and Hardschool, im kind of unsure about whats going to happen, they can drop a new single anytime or go completely radio silent. These guys are unpredictable. Yeah, that's always the thing with GN'R: what SHOULD they do and what ARE they gonna do? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl S Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 To stop myself being dissapointed will expect nothing and silence. That said, they've shown the capacity to release songs now with very little notice. We anticipated Absurd only because of the setlist being seen for the first show and then they played it. What we didn't anticipate was just a few days later they would release it. After that it became "Where's Hard Skool?" because we had seen it on setlists for a while and heard them rehearse it in soundcheck repeatedly - even a couple of times with Axl. We then eventually got Hard Skool, again with no pre-announcement, it just released at midnight and they sent some tweets out. We also had the curiosity of OMG being on setlists in 2018 and lyrics being on the screen during YCBM on this leg of the tour. Odd. Could they do more songs/an album in December? Possibly. There would be no need to have any of that rehearsed or on a setlist as there were never shows planned for the December timeframe - only October & November with the Mexico and Australia dates. So it is possible we see something that hasn't been worked up for performing yet. This would be a truly surprise release as there are not setlists or soundchecks that could hint towards it. I see some people talking about the shipment dates of the physical Hard Skool release as another launch. It really doesn't seem like it. The launch of that single was two weeks ago, the February and June 2022 shipment dates are just them fulfilling orders. Other things can be released digitally in the meantime - it's not impossible. Like I said at the top I'm not going to expect any of that, but will stay a little hopeful as they've finally ripped the seal off and have started releasing music. They clearly like to try and do them as surprises with no fanfare beforehand, so basically once we're 6 weeks out from the Hard Skool release date, each Thursday midnight can be something to anticipate. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRfanMILO Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 (edited) I'm not sure if they're done for this year. The may pull off something last minute (A Vegas residency?), or even the actual album, or something like a live Blu-ray. And not only they brought back Coma and Shadow, but also Sorry and Catcher (and Madagascar earlier). They also got that new Jungle intro which is cool, and You're Crazy being a regular in the setlist is amazing. This was my favorite "NITL lineup" year after 2016 and 2017. Edited October 4, 2021 by GNRfanMILO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl S Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 8 minutes ago, GNRfanMILO said: This was my favorite "NITL lineup" year after 2016 and 2017. It's the most interesting the band has been since 2016. The reunion has had some clear phases. NITL Part 1: OH MY GOD SLASH AND DUFF ARE BACK (16-17) NITL Part 2: Appetite Boxset, Some small setlist changes, oh this acoustic version of Move to the City is intersting I guess (18-19) F'n Everything has F'n in it: Lockdown silence and WTF SILKWORMS IS BACK?! (2020-Present) We'll see what happens now. The reunion wow factor is definitely over and they pumped the AFD nostalgia well dry. Maybe they do something big for Illusions but they already play all the Illusions songs people want to hear. They either tour on the novelty of just existing for the next 2 years or they release more shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Nothing until the next leg. I don’t think an album is ready but think we can still get one more out of them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRfanJen Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 This tour really has been such a blast to follow; probably the most fun for me personally since 2016-2017. The band deserves kudos for the changes they made this tour and the effort they put into every performance despite all the challenges I’m sure they faced as a large traveling operation during this pandemic. They really made a lot of people happy doing these shows (myself included). For the first time in forever, there seems to be quite a lot of goodwill between the fans and the band. I just really really hope they don’t piss it away. I don’t know what’s next, but I think I’ll take anything over total silence (though unfortunately this is what we all have to prepare ourselves for. This is Guns N’ Roses, after all). I will say this: despite all the commotion with the Hard Skool “EP” release, the long-term goal remains the same: the release of a new album. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HollyWoodRose84 Posted October 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2021 (edited) Fans, We’ll be F’n back in the F’n New Year with an F’n new setlist and F’n Axl will be less F’n bloated and cracking even more F’n jokes. SinF’ncerely, GnF’nR PS. F’n! Edited October 4, 2021 by HollyWoodRose84 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppelin Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 I would be beyond shocked if we got anything else as far as music is concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl S Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 11 minutes ago, HollyWoodRose84 said: Fans, We’ll be F’n back in the F’n New Year with an F’n new setlist and F’n Axl will be less F’n bloated and cracking even more F’n jokes. SinF’ncerely, GnF’nR PS. F’n! This f'n guy f'n gets it. You'll be the social media manager by the end of the f'n week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zombux Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 1 hour ago, gnfnrs1972 said: Total silence as usual. probably. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Release an album so that fans can know the songs as they're being played. Wishful thinking.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosso Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 The Europe Tour + one or two singles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnr5 Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 25 minutes ago, HollyWoodRose84 said: Fans, We’ll be F’n back in the F’n New Year with an F’n new setlist and F’n Axl will be less F’n bloated and cracking even more F’n jokes. SinF’ncerely, GnF’nR PS. F’n! June 2022 set just started: It's So Easy 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blackstar Posted October 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 4, 2021 Axl said last night that this was the last show for 2021. So, as of now, it doesn't seem they've made plans for more shows this year. As for new music, based on Slash's interviews from 2019 and 2020 and other clues, it's clear that they have recorded more than two songs and they intend to release this material. However, I don't think they'll put out anything else in 2021 (at least not an album), since there'll be no more GnR touring and Slash will be in SMKC mode by the end of the year. But I do believe they'll release more music next year, either in the form of an album or by continuing to drop singles (which eventually will be packed together for a physical album release). As much as I would prefer the former, I think the latter is more likely - and probably the best option for them. Considering how short the attention span for new music is these days, the singles option would keep people interested for a longer time. Whereas, in the case of an album, the media would write about it for one or two weeks and that would be it. And I don't think it would be much different in that regard even on the forums; the initial excitement over the album would wear out quickly and, after a period of levelheaded opinions and "constructive criticism" ("it's great that they released an album, but..." "Atlas Shrugged, meh," "Yikes, what did they to to the General? I prefer the cell phone clip"/"Did they really release this <insert song> instead of the General?" ), it would be soon replaced by full pessimism upon the realization/belief that there would be no more to expect in terms of new music in the foreseeable future. Anyway, Slash will soon start doing interviews for SMKC and he'll be asked about GnR, too. Although I don't expect him to say anything too specific, I think we may get some sort of update about their plans. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 Axl to go in hibernation, and Slash back to SMKC. Nothing unusual in the GNR World. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Towelie Posted October 4, 2021 Share Posted October 4, 2021 (edited) Still don't get why they have to be on tour to release new music. No other band/artist completely disappears off the radar when not touring. Most artists release the music first, THEN tour it. I am pleased we've had two singles, but only a new album will truly make me feel this band cares again. Edited October 4, 2021 by Towelie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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