StrangerInThisTown Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 (edited) Nikki is promoting his new book and told this story about Axl Edited November 4, 2021 by StrangerInThisTown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post itsprettytiedup Posted November 4, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 4, 2021 Yes sure, MTV played Sweet Child O' Mine because of Motley Crue 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legendador Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 I read somewhere that the riff of Dr. Feelgood was kind of stolen from GNR. I need to find that article again, but some "insider" or maybe a member of the band/doug goldstein said that Nikki was around during that period when they were reharsing and creating UYI in 1989, and suddenly MC the released DF. *UPDATED* Got it: https://gnrcentral.com/2018/05/15/steven-adler-responds-to-claims-that-motley-crue-ripped-off-dr-feelgood-from-guns-n-roses/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top-Hatted One Posted November 5, 2021 Share Posted November 5, 2021 (edited) No way! Stick to your guns is one of my favorite Crue Songs! Unless Nikki is deflecting here. Deflecting attention away from the fact he stole slash and duff’s riff that became the song Dr. Feelgood as per Doug Goldstein. Edit: Steven Adler disagrees with Doug so who knows Edited November 7, 2021 by Top-Hatted One Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCollins Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 I love MC but I've always thought there was something different about that song in terms of how the riff went and the production. To me it sounds a lot like Rocket Queen in the heaviness and melodic similarity, or at least something that might inspire you meodically. Most of their other songs have that kind of squealing WildSide sound, whereas DrFeelgood has the RQ rhythm and swing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystery Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 Why does this band talk so much about Guns n' Roses? It seems like an obsession. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tio Didi Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 8 hours ago, mystery said: Why does this band talk so much about Guns n' Roses? It seems like an obsession. ... a Bad Obsession. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYWIFEMYLIFE Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 8 hours ago, mystery said: Why does this band talk so much about Guns n' Roses? It seems like an obsession. cuz if you encountered them, it's impossible to ignore and not adore them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnfnrs1972 Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 14 hours ago, mystery said: Why does this band talk so much about Guns n' Roses? It seems like an obsession. Because they can sell out stadiums without 4 other bands on the bill. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 1 hour ago, gnfnrs1972 said: Because they can sell out stadiums without 4 other bands on the bill. Who can? GNR? The same GNR that was giving away tickets outside the venues this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnfnrs1972 Posted November 6, 2021 Share Posted November 6, 2021 27 minutes ago, Gordon Comstock said: Who can? GNR? The same GNR that was giving away tickets outside the venues this year? Yeah that GNR. The same one touring during a pandemic and supposedly hated Trump but its ok now since the Brandon administration is in office. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WhazUp Posted November 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 7, 2021 7 hours ago, gnfnrs1972 said: Yeah that GNR. The same one touring during a pandemic and supposedly hated Trump but its ok now since the vaccinations helped mitigate the rate of infections and symptoms severely FTFY 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LikeADog93 Posted November 7, 2021 Share Posted November 7, 2021 On 11/5/2021 at 9:42 PM, mystery said: Why does this band talk so much about Guns n' Roses? It seems like an obsession. Jealousy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystery Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 4 hours ago, LikeADog93 said: Jealousy They know that 2021 Axl Rose is still miles better than Vince Neil. Also probably salty that a 3/5 reunion of Guns n Roses is much bigger than anything they could ever do. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvH Posted November 8, 2021 Share Posted November 8, 2021 On 11/4/2021 at 3:40 PM, Legendador said: I read somewhere that the riff of Dr. Feelgood was kind of stolen from GNR. I need to find that article again, but some "insider" or maybe a member of the band/doug goldstein said that Nikki was around during that period when they were reharsing and creating UYI in 1989, and suddenly MC the released DF. *UPDATED* Got it: https://gnrcentral.com/2018/05/15/steven-adler-responds-to-claims-that-motley-crue-ripped-off-dr-feelgood-from-guns-n-roses/ If that riff was stolen, I would rather say it was from these guys : https://youtu.be/sbJAaU2tB4U 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBucky Posted November 9, 2021 Share Posted November 9, 2021 Haha...Sweet Child was played because they did a tour with Motley for a month? Sweet Child was released 7 months after that tour, and the band was already on the brink of completely blowing up. Jungle was played every hour on MTV at that point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ixtlan Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 On 11/6/2021 at 2:39 PM, gnfnrs1972 said: Because they can sell out stadiums without 4 other bands on the bill. That tour is going to be shit with Vince. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ixtlan Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 7 hours ago, GoBucky said: Haha...Sweet Child was played because they did a tour with Motley for a month? Sweet Child was released 7 months after that tour, and the band was already on the brink of completely blowing up. Jungle was played every hour on MTV at that point. I’m pretty sure Axl was thanking Niki for giving the band exposure at a time when Motley Crue was huge. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBucky Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 11 hours ago, Ixtlan said: I’m pretty sure Axl was thanking Niki for giving the band exposure at a time when Motley Crue was huge. I'm sure he was...however 'thanks to the tour, MTV is going to play SCOM' is a ridiculous comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintari Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 On 11/5/2021 at 11:42 PM, mystery said: Why does this band talk so much about Guns n' Roses? It seems like an obsession. Probably because back in the day, GNR eclipsed them to the point of irrelevance. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mystery Posted November 14, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted November 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Nintari said: Probably because back in the day, GNR eclipsed them to the point of irrelevance. I think the main reason for this is when the Appetite era kicked into motion bands like Motley Crue, Poison, Bon Jovi and others started to feel uncool compared to Guns. On the surface Guns would seem like they'd fit with them but they had a harder edge to their image and music and seemed to quickly dethrone those bands on the hierarchy. I don't think the members of Motley Crue have gotten over that entirely and seem to think of Guns n Roses as little brothers. Bon Jovi also openly wondered why Axl still got so much attention in 2006 when he hadn't released Chinese Democracy. I always thought it was because Axl was never chasing fame like Bon Jovi or trying to pander to Top 40 radio. Also because Axl has and always will be cooler than Jon Bon Jovi. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 13 hours ago, mystery said: I think the main reason for this is when the Appetite era kicked into motion bands like Motley Crue, Poison, Bon Jovi and others started to feel uncool compared to Guns. On the surface Guns would seem like they'd fit with them but they had a harder edge to their image and music and seemed to quickly dethrone those bands on the hierarchy. I don't think the members of Motley Crue have gotten over that entirely and seem to think of Guns n Roses as little brothers. Bon Jovi also openly wondered why Axl still got so much attention in 2006 when he hadn't released Chinese Democracy. I always thought it was because Axl was never chasing fame like Bon Jovi or trying to pander to Top 40 radio. Also because Axl has and always will be cooler than Jon Bon Jovi. It's simply because they have a relation to Guns and Guns still have a name. They want as much attention as possible to promote what they want to promote and Guns is simply the bigger draw, so they use the opportunity. It's click bait. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystery Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 (edited) On 11/14/2021 at 12:46 PM, Free Bird said: It's simply because they have a relation to Guns and Guns still have a name. They want as much attention as possible to promote what they want to promote and Guns is simply the bigger draw, so they use the opportunity. It's click bait. I feel like the reason for this is while Motley Crue has made some good music in their career, most of it sounds of it's time as 80's hair metal. Guns n Roses made songs that are all-time classics that still sound somewhat fresh today, especially Appetite. I know they came up at the height of it but Guns n Roses managed to avoid the over the top cheesiness associated with that mainstream 80s rock. I think it also helps that Guns came out with the two Illusions albums in the 90s that showed they weren't just an 80s band. They scored some massive hits with them that defined their legacy and were broader musically. Motley Crue were pretty much done with their releith Dr. Feelgood which came out in 1989. Nothing they've released since has really gained much interest so they've become a caricature of that 80s Sunset Strip scene that they've never fully moved on from. Edited November 15, 2021 by mystery 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintari Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 (edited) On 11/13/2021 at 10:35 PM, mystery said: I think the main reason for this is when the Appetite era kicked into motion bands like Motley Crue, Poison, Bon Jovi and others started to feel uncool compared to Guns. On the surface Guns would seem like they'd fit with them but they had a harder edge to their image and music and seemed to quickly dethrone those bands on the hierarchy. I don't think the members of Motley Crue have gotten over that entirely and seem to think of Guns n Roses as little brothers. Bon Jovi also openly wondered why Axl still got so much attention in 2006 when he hadn't released Chinese Democracy. I always thought it was because Axl was never chasing fame like Bon Jovi or trying to pander to Top 40 radio. Also because Axl has and always will be cooler than Jon Bon Jovi. The reason GNR (imo) dwarfed a lot of the bands is because unlike most, they were 100% about the music and genuine. Yes, they liked woman and money, but their music was sacred and came first. Compare that to Bon Jovi who literally hired a professional song writer to help them write a bunch of watered-down, dated, candy-ass, bubblegum rock songs in order to stay in the charts. That's the real reason people pay attention to Axl more than him. Because Axl was a real artist, doing it the right way and people can respect that. Nobody can respect what Bon Jovi did. Not in the rock world anyway. In the rock world, that sort of thing is straight clown show. Edited November 17, 2021 by Nintari 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystery Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 I'll add that Axl just genuinely does his own thing while not being saturated in the public. In his prime he was the picture of a rockstar that people still long for. Even today he holds a mystique and presence that only a few famous figures have. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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