Ixtlan Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 I read an article the Motley Crue sold their musical catalogue for 150$ million. Surely, GNR is 200$ million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bitchisback Posted December 1, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted December 1, 2021 Depends on if they include absurd. 250 mil without it, 150 with it. 1 12 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seely Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 I'll give you £50 for the lot ONO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stress Fracture Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Motley Crue gets 6m Spotify streams and GNR gets 19m. So by that alone I see no reason to demand less than $450m. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lost un the jungle Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 If MC sold it for 150M, for sure GNR can be in the neighborhood of 300M at least. Do you know if this remove all royalties for each people credited on the songs or how does this king of agreement work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Johnny Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 Reminds me of this Vicky Hamilton story. "Vicky also recalls a time when she saved the band from potentially losing millions of dollars in revenue when she walked in on Axl thrashing out a deal to sell record producer Kim Fowley three of what would become the band's biggest hits from Appetite for Destruction for a mere $2,500. She told him: 'Dude you cannot do that, we're in the middle of a bidding war with lots of record labels here you cannot sell out these songs.' 'Axl was just like "I can write a million songs" and I said 'Maybe so but can you write a million songs like these?' 'It was Welcome to the Jungle and two of the others that ended up on Appetite. 'He just said, "We really need the money". He was ready to say OK and I was like: "Are you crazy you cannot do that." Vicky left the pair and went to do some laundry and Fowley followed her screaming at her, 'You messed up my deal! I deserve a piece of that!'" 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adamsapple Posted December 1, 2021 Share Posted December 1, 2021 I bought all their albums right when they came out, cost me about 100 bucks altogether. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axl666 Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 I'd guess it's worth a good bit more than 350 million; closer to 500 million I would have thought. Some of those songs will be played throughout the world for the next 50 years at least. I think that out of all of the LA bands GNR are the ones whose music stands the strongest chance of lasting through time. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-p-d-a Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 GN'R should sell their Vault 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draguns Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 Well Axl did sell his publishing rights to Sanctuary. Universal acquired Sanctuary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MYWIFEMYLIFE Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 They make more then 150 from publishing per year. it would worth around 2,5 bn. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ixtlan Posted December 3, 2021 Author Share Posted December 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Draguns said: Well Axl did sell his publishing rights to Sanctuary. Universal acquired Sanctuary. That’s what I thought, too. For 19 million. Lol. And now his ex manager is the guy acquiring a lot of these catalogs. Looks like Axl was dead wrong about Merck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystery Posted December 5, 2021 Share Posted December 5, 2021 On 12/1/2021 at 12:12 PM, King_Johnny said: Reminds me of this Vicky Hamilton story. "Vicky also recalls a time when she saved the band from potentially losing millions of dollars in revenue when she walked in on Axl thrashing out a deal to sell record producer Kim Fowley three of what would become the band's biggest hits from Appetite for Destruction for a mere $2,500. She told him: 'Dude you cannot do that, we're in the middle of a bidding war with lots of record labels here you cannot sell out these songs.' 'Axl was just like "I can write a million songs" and I said 'Maybe so but can you write a million songs like these?' 'It was Welcome to the Jungle and two of the others that ended up on Appetite. 'He just said, "We really need the money". He was ready to say OK and I was like: "Are you crazy you cannot do that." Vicky left the pair and went to do some laundry and Fowley followed her screaming at her, 'You messed up my deal! I deserve a piece of that!'" I can somewhat see early Guns really needing the money before Appetite hit big. Good on Vicky Hamilton for looking out for them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikey Whipwreck Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 On 12/2/2021 at 4:17 PM, Ixtlan said: That’s what I thought, too. For 19 million. Lol. And now his ex manager is the guy acquiring a lot of these catalogs. Looks like Axl was dead wrong about Merck. It was a 20 year deal. Rights revert to Axl in late 2024 or early 2025. Might actually explain some of his reluctance to release music. The rights might be worth a bit more if the infamous vault contains more unreleased material Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bansidhe Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 On 12/2/2021 at 5:05 PM, t-p-d-a said: GN'R should sell their Vault Whoever buys it would need to make sure they have enough room to store Paul Tobias too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted December 7, 2021 Share Posted December 7, 2021 If motley crue got about 150million then GnR would be looking at 6/700million easily enough... but that number could go way up considering how many GNR songs are constantly on classic rock radio and placed in ads and movies. 1billion sounds like a nice number. I've been surprised by the people selling, and I'm sure GNR have been approached. Whether they want to cash out is another question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
November_rain Posted December 13, 2021 Share Posted December 13, 2021 Whatever the value is I hope they don´t end up selling their catalogue to one of those vulture funds that are monopolizing the culture industry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodOlJohnnyK Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Bruce just sold For $500M. I’d think U2 and Metallica could fetch the same amount, or close to it. Guns could probably get $200M-$250M on the back of Jungle, SCoM, and Paradise City. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jw224 Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Depends how many toy trucks and tshirts are included in the deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlslash Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 11 minutes ago, GoodOlJohnnyK said: Bruce just sold For $500M. I’d think U2 and Metallica could fetch the same amount, or close to it. Guns could probably get $200M-$250M on the back of Jungle, SCoM, and Paradise City. Bruce's catalog includes 300 songs, including an album that, at its time at least, set the record for most hit singles on an album (Born In The USA). GNR's doesn't have 20% the number of songs as Bruce's catalog, and I'm not sure the hits are *that* much bigger. I wouldn't think GNR would be worth more than $150m by comparison to this sale, though I suppose Motley Crue just sold for bigger-than-expected amount too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodOlJohnnyK Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 4 minutes ago, axlslash said: Bruce's catalog includes 300 songs, including an album that, at its time at least, set the record for most hit singles on an album (Born In The USA). GNR's doesn't have 20% the number of songs as Bruce's catalog, and I'm not sure the hits are *that* much bigger. I wouldn't think GNR would be worth more than $150m by comparison to this sale, though I suppose Motley Crue just sold for bigger-than-expected amount too. I think a lot of these publishers are in it for the advertising dollars, rather than airplay. Bruce might do better on classic rock radio, though I’d argue that Guns still does very well on rock radio as well. You can’t turn on the radio in the Baltimore/Washington metro area without being transported back to 1985-1994. But the real prize, I imagine, is in advertising. Welcome To The Jungle used in a major superhero movie trailer, for example. That’s where Guns could still make a strong case for themselves, certainly moreso than Motley Crue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlslash Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 2 minutes ago, GoodOlJohnnyK said: I think a lot of these publishers are in it for the advertising dollars, rather than airplay. Bruce might do better on classic rock radio, though I’d argue that Guns still does very well on rock radio as well. You can’t turn on the radio in the Baltimore/Washington metro area without being transported back to 1985-1994. But the real prize, I imagine, is in advertising. Welcome To The Jungle used in a major superhero movie trailer, for example. That’s where Guns could still make a strong case for themselves, certainly moreso than Motley Crue. Oh absolutely agreed. I just think Bruce's catalog is worth at least as much. Hell, he straight up starred in a Superbowl commercial last year. GNR certainly has a few top tier licensing songs, but Bruce has a couple as well, and a whole bunch more that would be just a little bit lower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWolllert Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 $19 Million for 20 years as from 2005 to 2025, if memory serves me right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Original Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 Does Axl own the catalog outright or just the name of band...or how does that all work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martin Riggs Posted December 16, 2021 Share Posted December 16, 2021 26 minutes ago, Original said: Does Axl own the catalog outright or just the name of band...or how does that all work? The rights to use the name. He’s part owner with Slash and Duff on the catalogue of classic GNR. He must’ve really needed the $ to sell his share of the pie for 20 years for the amount he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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