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1998:

"The Robin Finck/Josh Freese/Tommy Stinson/Billy Howerdel/Dizzy Reed version of the album that existed in 1998 was pretty incredible. It still sounded like GNR but there were elements of Zeppelin, Nine Inch Nails and Pink Floyd mixed in." (James Barber, Poptones, 10/16/05)

Songs with vocals:

  • "Madagascar"
  • "Prostitute"

We went back and it was the French horn sound and he kept playing this progression and it sounded really cool and I turned around and turned on the tape machine and that ended up being the very intro for the song "Madagascar". And that’s just how that evolved and he just had this chord progression and all of the sudden it married with the French horn and it was their super-moody song and that was the start of that song. We actually recorded it really quickly up there at his house and he just sang unbelievably on it." (Chris Pitman, Talking Metal, 11/08/08)

"Rose is laboring over a song with the working title 'Prostitute', according to Youth, but past successes weigh heavily on him." 

Finished songs in instrumental form:

  • "Chinese Democracy"
  • "T.W.A.T."
  • "Atlas Shrugged"
  • "Perhaps"
  • "Rhiad"
  • "Catcher In The Rye"
  • "The Blues"
  • "Quick Song"
  • "Zodiac 13"
  • "State Of Grace"
  • "Oklahoma"
  • "IRS"
  • "Hard School"
  • "Dummy"
  • "Me & My Elvis"
  • "Ides Of March"
  • "D Tune"
  • "Curly Shuffle"
  • "Thyme"
  • "This I Love"

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1999:

A - Tier Songs with vocals:

  • "Madagascar"
  • "Prostitute"
  • "T.W.A.T."
  • "Atlas Shrugged"
  • "Perhaps"
  • "Rhiad"
  • "Chinese Democracy"
  • "Catcher In The Rye"
  • "The Blues"
  • "Silkworms"
  • "If The World"
  • "State Of Grace"
  • "IRS"
  • "Hard School"
  • "Oh My God"

"Guns N' Roses are preparing to end their lengthy silence, as they finish up work on two new studio albums, both of which are being produced by Sean Beavan and expected to be released simultaneously in October. The two, as yet untitled, albums feature the new line-up of vocalist Axl Rose, guitarists Robin Finck and Paul Huge, keyboard player Dizzy Reed, drummer Josh Freese and bassist Tommy Stinson. One source close to the band describes the new material as being, "Cleaner and fatter, but completely Guns N' Roses. Despite the rumours, there's no hint of any techno or industrial influences."

B - Tier Songs with vocals:

  • "Eye On You"
  • "Quick Song"
  • "Nothing"
  • "This I Love"

A - Tier instrumentals:

  • "P.R.L."
  • "Moustache"
  • "Zodiac 13"
  • "Tonto"
  • "I'm Sorry"
  • "Oklahoma"
  • "Dummy"
  • "Me & My Elvis"
  • "Circus Maximus" renamed after "Ides Of March"
  • "D Tune"
  • "Curly Shuffle"
  • "Thyme"

B - Tier instrumentals:

  • "Real Doll"
  • "Shackler's Revenge"
  • "Billionaire"
  • "Dub Suplex"
  • "Devious Bastard"
  • "As It Began"

 

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2000:

Finished songs:

  • "Madagascar"
  • "Prostitute"
  • "T.W.A.T."
  • "Atlas Shrugged"
  • "Perhaps"
  • "Riad N' The Bedouins" renamed after "Rhiad"
  • "Chinese Democracy"
  • "Catcher In The Rye"
  • "The Blues"
  • "Silkworms"
  • "If The World"
  • "State Of Grace"
  • "IRS"
  • "Hard School"
  • "Thyme"
  • "Oh My God"

A - Tier instrumentals:

  • "I'm Sorry"
  • "Oklahoma"
  • "Dummy"
  • "Me & My Elvis"
  • "Circus Maximus"
  • "D Tune"
  • "Curly Shuffle"

B - Tier instrumentals:

  • "Quick Song"
  • "Zodiac 13"
  • "Shackler's Revenge"
  • "Dub Suplex"

Most likely abandoned songs:

  • "PRL"
  • "Eye On You"
  • "Moustache"
  • "Tonto"
  • "Real Doll"
  • "Devious Bastard"
  • "Nothing"
  • "As It Began"
  • "This I Love"

 

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2001:

Finished songs:

  • "Madagascar"
  • "Prostitute"
  • "Atlas Shrugged"
  • "Perhaps"
  • "Riad N' The Bedouins"
  • "Chinese Democracy"
  • "Catcher In The Rye"
  • "The Blues"
  • "Silkworms"
  • "If The World"
  • "State Of Grace"
  • "IRS"
  • "Hard School"
  • "Thyme"
  • "Oh My God"
  • "Oklahoma" [Vocals added]
  • "Going Down"

A - Tier instrumentals:

  • "Sorry For You" renamed after "I'm Sorry"
  • "100 Cuban Skies" renamed after "Dummy"
  • "Leave Me Alone" renamed after "Me & My Elvis"
  • "Circus Maximus"
  • "D Tune"
  • "Curly Shuffle"
  • "Three Dollar Pyramid"
  • "Prom Violence"

B - Tier instrumentals:

  • "Quick Song"
  • "Zodiac 13"
  • "Shackler's Revenge"
  • "Dub Suplex"

Most likely abandoned songs:

  • "Inside Out"
  • Tommy Home Demo

 

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2002 - MAJOR "RESET" OF THE ALBUM:

Finished songs ready to master:

  • "Chinese Democracy" [Soft remake; plus BH solo]
  • "Better" renamed after "Three Dollar Pyramid" [Vocals added]
  • "The Blues" [Soft remake; orchestra]
  • "If The World"
  • "There Was a Time" renamed after "T.W.A.T." [Soft remake; plus BH solo; orchestra]
  • "Riad N' The Bedouins"
  • "IRS"
  • "Madagascar" [orchestra]
  • "Prostitute" [orchestra]
  • "Atlas Shrugged"
  • "Perhaps"
  • "Silkworms" [Remake]
  • "State Of Grace"
  • "Oklahoma"
  • "Hard School"
  • "100 Cuban Skies" [Vocals added]
  • "Thyme" [Orchestra]
  • "Oh My God"
  • "Going Down" [Remake]

Demos began to circulate.

A - Tier instrumentals:

  • "Leave Me Alone" [Orchestra]
  • "The General" [Orchestra]
  • "Seven" [Orchestra; possible mix between "Circus Maximus" / "D Tune" / "Curly Shuffle"]

B - Tier instrumentals:

  • "Quick Song"
  • "Zodiac" renamed after "Zodiac 13"
  • "Shackler's Revenge" [Remake; possible mix between "Shackler's Revenge" / "Dub Suplex" / "Prom Violence"]

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Late 2004 - Early 2005:

Finished songs:

  • "Chinese Democracy"
  • "Better"
  • "The Blues"
  • "If The World"
  • "There Was a Time"
  • "Catcher In The Rye"
  • "Riad N' The Bedouins"
  • "Sorry For You" [Vocals added]
  • "IRS"
  • "Madagascar"
  • "Prostitute"
  • "Thyme"
  • "Elvis Presley & The Monster Of Soul" renamed after "Leave Me Alone" [Vocals added]
  • "The General" [Vocals added]
  • "Seven" [Vocals added]

"Axl is still finishing up vocals on the record and I've heard rumours that it will be released before the end of the year." (Fortus, 06/23/05)

B - Tier finished songs:

  • "Atlas Shrugged"
  • "Silkworms"
  • "Berlin" renamed after "Oklahoma"
  • "Oh My God"
  • "Going Down"
  • "Jackie Chan" renamed after "Hard School"
  • "Cuban Skies" renamed after "100 Cuban Skies"

A - Tier instrumental songs:

  • "Shackler's Revenge"
  • "This I Love" [Previously abandoned]
  • "Lies They Tell"

Most likely abandoned songs:

  • "Perhaps"
  • "Quick Song"
  • "Zodiac"
  • "State Of Grace"

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2005 / EARLY 2006- "ANTIQUIET" / FINISHED UNRELEASED ALBUM:

Finished mastered album:

  • "Chinese Democracy"
  • "Shackler's Revenge" [Vocals added; 2007 incident nothing to do with this song, only a reminder by Rose]
  • "Better"
  • "The Blues"
  • "If The World"
  • "There Was a Time"
  • "Riad N' The Bedouins"
  • "Lies They Tell" [Vocals added]
  • "Sorry For You"
  • "IRS"
  • "Madagascar"
  • "Prostitute"

"As a sign of his gratitude, Mullineaux said Rose sent someone to his hotel room to retrieve two CDs, each one containing 10 tracks. [...] Mullineaux, who said he manned the DJ booth and spun the discs for Rose, said several of the tracks reminded him of classic GN'R, with moments of uncharacteristic heaviness. Axl 'kept telling me to put back track #3 '” I guess that was his favorite song,' he said." (MTV, 02/23/06)

"'People will hear music this year,' says Axl Rose, puffing on a cigar in the early hours of Saturday morning at the Hollywood Forever Cemetery. 'We're working on thirty-two songs, and twenty-six are nearly done,' he says. Of those, thirteen are slated for the final album. [...] Among Rose's favorites are 'Better,' 'There Was a Time' and 'The Blues.'" (Rolling Stone, 01/18/06)

Mastered and finished songs not to be included:

  • "Catcher In The Rye"
  • "This I Love" [Vocals added]
  • "Atlas Shrugged"
  • "Berlin"
  • "Seven"
  • "The General"
  • "Elvis Presley & The Monster Of Soul"
  • "Thyme"
  • "Oh My God"
  • "Silkworms"
  • "Cuban Skies"
  • "Jackie Chan"
  • "Going Down"

Instrumentals leftovers:

  • "Light My Fire" [previously abandoned; renamed after "Moustache"]
  • "Tonto" [previously abandoned]
  • "Monstrosity"

 

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2007 - FINISHED:

Finished album - Release in 2008:

  • "Chinese Democracy"
  • "Shackler's Revenge"
  • "Better"
  • "Street Of Dreams" renamed after "Stardust" renamed after "The Blues"
  • "If The World"
  • "There Was a Time"
  • "Catcher In The Rye"
  • "Scraped" renamed after "Lies They Tell"
  • "Riad N' The Bedouins"
  • "Sorry" renamed after "Sorry For You"
  • "IRS"
  • "Madagascar"
  • "This I Love"
  • "Prostitute"

Finished songs - released in 2021:

  • "Absurd!" renamed after "Silkworms"
  • "HardSkool" renamed after "Jackie Chan"

Finished unreleased songs:

  • "Oh My God"
  • "Atlas Shrugged"
  • "Berlin"
  • "7" renamed after "Seven"
  • "The General"
  • "Soul Monster" renamed after "Monster Of Soul" renamed after "Elvis Preslery & The Monster Of Soul"
  • "Thyme"
  • "Cuban Skies"
  • "Going Down"
  • "Tonto" [Vocals added]
  • "Light My Fire" [Vocals added]
  • "Monstrosity" [Vocals added]
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Again?

I know I repeat myself sometimes, but these lists are staggering.

20 mins ago, didn't you say Light My Fire and Monstrosity were the same song?

 

Earlier today:

Songs for the next album

  1. Light My Fire (Monstrosity)

 

Now:

  • "Light My Fire" [previously abandoned; renamed after "Moustache"]

 

And:

  • "Light My Fire" [Vocals added]
  • "Monstrosity" [Vocals added]
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4 minutes ago, Pele said:

Again?

I know I repeat myself sometimes, but these lists are staggering.

20 mins ago, didn't you say Light My Fire and Monstrosity were the same song?

I'm only putting the "Official sources".

 

Just like Axl Rose has said he has "26 finished songs"... and we know that isn't real.

 

"'People will hear music this year,' says Axl Rose, puffing on a cigar in the early hours of Saturday morning at the Hollywood Forever Cemetery. 'We're working on thirty-two songs, and twenty-six are nearly done,' he says. Of those, thirteen are slated for the final album. [...] Among Rose's favorites are 'Better,' 'There Was a Time' and 'The Blues.'" (Rolling Stone, 01/18/06)

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7 minutes ago, CubanSkies Dummy said:

I'm only putting the "Official sources".

 

Just like Axl Rose has said he has "26 finished songs"... and we know that isn't real.

 

"'People will hear music this year,' says Axl Rose, puffing on a cigar in the early hours of Saturday morning at the Hollywood Forever Cemetery. 'We're working on thirty-two songs, and twenty-six are nearly done,' he says. Of those, thirteen are slated for the final album. [...] Among Rose's favorites are 'Better,' 'There Was a Time' and 'The Blues.'" (Rolling Stone, 01/18/06)

I don't understand the answer:

 

Earlier today, you said:

Songs for the next album

  1. Light My Fire (Monstrosity)

 

Now:

  • "Light My Fire" [previously abandoned; renamed after "Moustache"]

 

And:

  • "Light My Fire" [Vocals added]
  • "Monstrosity" [Vocals added]
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4 hours ago, WhazUp said:

I am so damn tired of song lists on GNR forums lol

Same here. Leak something new, or move on. I love the CD/buckhead gnr as much as the next diehard CD fan........ But this topic has been discussed to death. Lol, judging by the upcoming EP, the band has moved on, and so should you lol. 

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