CubanSkies Dummy Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) I have two holy grails: Both are from 2006: Axl Rose at his prime. One of the greatest frontman of all time with his good powers. - First are the two CD's of finished mastered music in early 2006. The ultimate (and true) version of Chinese Democracy. On 01/13/06, Axl visited Korn's tour launch party at the Hollywood Forever Cemetary, and gave his first comments to a member of the press in over three years. "'People will hear music this year,' says Axl Rose, puffing on a cigar in the early hours of Saturday morning at the Hollywood Forever Cemetery. 'We're working on thirty-two songs, and twenty-six are nearly done,' he says. Of those, thirteen are slated for the final album. [...] Among Rose's favorites are 'Better,' 'There Was a Time' and 'The Blues.'" (Rolling Stone, 01/18/06) "As a sign of his gratitude, Mullineaux said Rose sent someone to his hotel room to retrieve two CDs, each one containing 10 tracks. [...] Mullineaux, who said he manned the DJ booth and spun the discs for Rose, said several of the tracks reminded him of classic GN'R, with moments of uncharacteristic heaviness. Axl 'kept telling me to put back track #3 '” I guess that was his favorite song,' he said." (MTV, 02/23/06) Was track #3 perhaps Better, There Was a Time, or The Blues? "'He wanted to play that one over and over, like six times. He was really getting into it and rockin' out. Everybody was surprised at how good it sounded. And that third track, that was the song where his voice sounded the best; the smoothest.' CD 1: Chinese Democracy Riad N' The Bedouins Shackler's Revenge The Blues If The World Better This I Love There Was a Time Lies They Tell Sorry I.R.S. Madagascar Prostitute CD 2: Thyme Jackie Chan Atlas Shrugged Berlin Oh My God Going Down Seven Soul Monster The General State Of Grace Perhaps Catcher In The Rye Silkworms The other six of the 32 songs probably were: "Quick Song", "Zodiac", "Tonto", "Light My Fire", "Nothin'" and "Cuban Skies". 13+13+6 = 32. - - And second, is the first Hammersmith gig from 2006 (when they played almost the half of "Chinese Democracy") but in pristine audio and 4k footage. "Over the four nights [at the Hammerstein Ballroom], audiences were also treated to nearly half of the band's upcoming new album, Chinese Democracy, with live performances of 'Chinese Democracy,' 'Better,' 'There was a Time,' 'Madagascar,' 'IRS' and 'The Blues.'" (GNR, press release, 05/22/06) The General (Intro music) Welcome To The Jungle It's So Easy Mr. Brownstone Better Live And Let Die Sweet Child O' Mine Knockin' On Heaven's Door Madagascar You Could Be Mine The Blues Out Ta Get Me Prostitute (solo piano intro) November Rain My Michelle (with Sebastian Bach) Chinese Democracy There Was a Time Patience I.R.S. Nightrain Paradise City __________________ Post your all time Axl Rose & His Band - Holy Grail of all times. Let's discuss. Edited January 13 by CubanSkies Dummy 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stay.Of.Execution Posted January 13 Popular Post Share Posted January 13 Nobody cares. 6 9 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 South America 2020 documentary CD2 from 2010 Understanding more about the controversy with Dr Dre 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubanSkies Dummy Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 4 minutes ago, Coma16 said: South America 2020 documentary CD2 from 2010 Understanding more about the controversy with Dr Dre What?! What happened between Chinese Democracy and D.E.T.O.X.?! I don't know nothin' about it. Please, explain! And why do you want that 2020 doc?! Must be boring as hell! CD2 has Ashba, Ferrer and BBF on it. I want the 2006 version! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coma16 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 2 minutes ago, CubanSkies Dummy said: What?! What happened between Chinese Democracy and D.E.T.O.X.?! I don't know nothin' about it. Please, explain! And why do you want that 2020 doc?! Must be boring as hell! CD2 has Ashba, Ferrer and BBF on it. I want the 2006 version! The Dr Dre thing is from the leaked emails. 2010 is one of my favorite years as a GNR fan, so I was excited to see the limited footage with Prostitute song over the trailer before it got shelved. I was under the impression that DJ wouldn't have been on the 2010 disk. Did he really record parts for all those songs? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZoSoRose Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 CD2 with vocals in any form from any era is the end all be all for me Then maybe all the emails and shit MSL has 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 minute ago, Coma16 said: I was under the impression that DJ wouldn't have been on the 2010 disk. Did he really record parts for all those songs? My understanding is CD2, as it existed then, didn't have DJ on it. CD2 was pretty much ready around the same time as the 2008 album. So it had Bumble mixed around like he was on the 2008 album. I hope it leaks, or better yet, the tracks leak in a form prior to the mixes with Bumblefoot on them so we get all of the Bucket stuff. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mendez Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 The Sean Beaven version of Better (aka the original 2006 leak), but in better quality 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubanSkies Dummy Posted January 13 Author Share Posted January 13 2 minutes ago, Mendez said: The Sean Beaven version of Better (aka the original 2006 leak), but in better quality Better received vocals in 2002/2003 and was written by Finck around 2001. Beaven left the team in early 2000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingcanyon Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 42 minutes ago, Stay.Of.Execution said: Nobody cares. i'm waiting for that random guy to say that they care 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystery Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Axl was definitely not in his prime in 2006 but he still sounded good. Honestly the two Joint shows in December 2001. Don't even think they were filmed so it's a holy grail for something that doesn't exist. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 15 minutes ago, mystery said: Axl was definitely not in his prime in 2006 but he still sounded good. Honestly the two Joint shows in December 2001. Don't even think they were filmed so it's a holy grail for something that doesn't exist. The 2000-2002 Axl was not prime for sure. It was ultra clean almost all the time. 2006 had a hybrid of ultra clean and distorted and it sounded incredible. If I could pause Axls voice at any time period 2006 is a no brainer, superior to all other years... Even though I love his voice on some of those UYI shows. I just think the 2006 voice was more consistent... Still some off nights, but overall very much on it! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post WhazUp Posted January 13 Popular Post Share Posted January 13 (edited) My holy grail is a GNR fan forum where everyone knows how to communicate with each other in non-list form Edited January 13 by WhazUp 6 1 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Axl_morris Posted January 13 Popular Post Share Posted January 13 1). Anything 2). Anything in good quality 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-W.A.R- Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 It was the 01.01.01 show. I still wouldn't mind a proper release that is uncropped and better quality. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 minute ago, -W.A.R- said: It was the 01.01.01 show. I still wouldn't mind a proper release that is uncropped and better quality. The uncropped 10GB file is out there, the quality is only slightly better than the 1.2GB file that done the rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drlaban Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 A new album with same production sound wise as UYI. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTJ80 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 5 minutes ago, drlaban said: A new album with same production sound wise as UYI. Swap UYI production for Spaghetti Incident production and you have a deal. 👍 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drlaban Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 2 minutes ago, DTJ80 said: Swap UYI production for Spaghetti Incident production and you have a deal. 👍 I could live with that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DTJ80 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 1 minute ago, drlaban said: I could live with that. It’s odd that some of the stuff was recorded during the UYI sessions yet Spaghettis production is so much better (specifically the drums). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drlaban Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 (edited) 27 minutes ago, DTJ80 said: It’s odd that some of the stuff was recorded during the UYI sessions yet Spaghettis production is so much better (specifically the drums). Clink with two years newer technology, I guess. Edited January 13 by drlaban Spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Blackstar Posted January 13 Popular Post Share Posted January 13 (edited) Everything from 1993-1997 (song ideas, rehearsals, the Slash riffs Axl thought were good, the Izzy/Duff demos, the 12 songs Duff and Matt were working on, whatever Axl was working on with Paul Tobias and Dizzy's friend, the Zakk Wylde sessions, etc.) Edited January 13 by Blackstar 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jw224 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 Probably some sort of CD box set with all different versions on it. Something we'll never get lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post gunsfanoldie Posted January 13 Popular Post Share Posted January 13 1. Reunion with Izzy and Steven and Matt. The tour should have always been Axl, Slash, Izzy, Duff and Matt (with Steven either playing an Appetite encore every night or just coming on to play the Appetite songs during the show), and Izzy should be getting the same money as Axl, Slash and Duff. He wrote the fucking songs, and even if you're not missing him being up there, he should be there with them. Its nothing against Fortus or Melissa or Frank (well ok, I couldn't care less about Melissa and I just don't like Frank's drumming), but the reunion lineup should have always been Axl, Slash, Izzy, Duff, Matt and Steven guesting, and Dizzy if Axl insists. 2. An honest to god new album. NOT of Chinese leftovers, not cover songs. Write some fucking new material, which everyone besides Axl is clearly still capable of doing and record them. 3. A comprehensive Chinese Democracy box set. It was actually revelatory, and dare I say changed my mind about the entire Chinese endevour. When you hear the 200 songs back to back to back, you actually hear what he's going for, and the journey he took throughout that time (and by that time I mean like 97-2003 when the album was basically honed). Its fascinating, it vindicates Chinese which turned out to be a release that was just "here's what we have" and a hodgepodge that ruined what Axl was going for, and its truly pitiful that it took them finally being leaked for us to hear them. 500 people probably even care about them, put them out to us, and you could actually get a wider audience like those that enjoyed the recent Beatles documentary and such. There are great box sets for albums that underwent intense journeys like Pet Sounds, and Chinese absolutely deserves it. 6 discs or so of everything you have with a large booklet outlining the process. 4. A documentary similar to the Eagles doc, helmed by me of course, interviewing past and probably future GNR members knowing this insane group of people being honest about their history, with a home release that includes like 10 hours of bonus features about the Axl wilderness years, Slash's solo years, Duff's solo years, Velvet Revolver, Gilby Clarke's solo albums, Izzy's solo material, the porn films Steven Adler has made, the multitude of whales Matt has saved from slaughter. 5. A true Use Your Illusion box set (and a redo of the Appetite one at that) as even though Slash said it I'm either skeptical it won't come out, or that it probably will and be another complete missed opportunity. 6. Start an online archive portal for Use Your Illusion tour and video audio that we know they have all of. Do those then we can come back with another list, but those are the obvious key ones that need to be addressed. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19AT5 Posted January 13 Share Posted January 13 3 hours ago, Sweersa said: I hope it leaks, or better yet, the tracks leak in a form prior to the mixes with Bumblefoot on them so we get all of the Bucket stuff. I could've bet a kidney on this response! Haha! You're like the grown man who can't forget going out with a girl when they were 15! Actually no, scrap that. Who can't forget two other people going out when they were 15! Seriously dude, let it go. Or get yourself a chicken coop! 🤣 Constantly hoping and posting about Buckethead is just weird. I love Tommy Bolin and I love Deep Purple (or certainly did). But I don't live in hope that the next Purple album has a guitar solo by him. Controversially, I listen to his solo material (now that there's much as he's dead but hey ho). Unless this is of course pure trolling and I have just played into it. Oh FFS! 😋😬 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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