Sweersa Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 2006 was probably the last year Axl could have been in a November Rain style video, and looked great. A Better video was planned (not the one that leaked), as was one for Chinese Democracy, and if memory serves, one for Street of Dreams as well. Makes sense, as all 3 were singles for that album. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlasShrugged Posted March 8, 2022 Author Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Sweersa said: 2006 was probably the last year Axl could have been in a November Rain style video, and looked great. A Better video was planned (not the one that leaked), as was one for Chinese Democracy, and if memory serves, one for Street of Dreams as well. Makes sense, as all 3 were singles for that album. When do you think those three should be released? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 40 minutes ago, AtlasShrugged said: When do you think those three should be released? 2008-2012 At this point, a release would only make sense for a CD re-issue or deluxe edition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 (edited) On 3/7/2022 at 2:38 PM, AtlasShrugged said: Do you think the current line-up should re-record Chinese in its entirety? Would you buy a copy? If there was a box set released would you buy it? Why should they do something like this. Don't you think it's enough that they re recorded the unreleased CD stuff? Time to move on and write some new music than wasting time with bullshit like this. Edited March 8, 2022 by Free Bird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlasShrugged Posted March 8, 2022 Author Share Posted March 8, 2022 45 minutes ago, Free Bird said: Why should they do something like this. Don't you think it's enough that they re recorded the unreleased CD stuff? Time to move on and write some new music than wasting time with bullshit like this. Why not? Axl always wanted to get the current players on the tracks and they've been killing it live on the tracks since 2016, with Slash taking the solos to a new level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, AtlasShrugged said: Why not? Axl always wanted to get the current players on the tracks and they've been killing it live on the tracks since 2016, with Slash taking the solos to a new level It's one thing to play some songs live and another to waste your time rerecord already released songs. Just do what a real band would do and spend your time in writing and recording your own songs... that's my opinion at least. It's not like this band has released plenty of records on a regular basis. There's a lot of catching up to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlasShrugged Posted March 8, 2022 Author Share Posted March 8, 2022 35 minutes ago, Free Bird said: It's one thing to play some songs live and another to waste your time rerecord already released songs. Just do what a real band would do and spend your time in writing and recording your own songs... that's my opinion at least. It's not like this band has released plenty of records on a regular basis. There's a lot of catching up to do. Fair, that makes sense. I suppose we'll know by the end of the year whether they decide to re-record them or not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystery Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 I do think there's something to the belief that Chinese Democracy could've been seen much better and even had some nostalgia for a younger generation if there were some videos made for it. As it stands it's a solid album with a well publicized history and somewhat orphaned. Even The Spaghetti Incident got a few videos made for it. Also only Axl would disappear publicly from July 2007-December 2009 while the album came out only to tour the album from 2009-2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, mystery said: I do think there's something to the belief that Chinese Democracy could've been seen much better and even had some nostalgia for a younger generation if there were some videos made for it. As it stands it's a solid album with a well publicized history and somewhat orphaned. Even The Spaghetti Incident got a few videos made for it. Also only Axl would disappear publicly from July 2007-December 2009 while the album came out only to tour the album from 2009-2014. I think that most people don't even know that it exists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystery Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, Free Bird said: I think that most people don't even know that it exists. If they do it's because it took "15 years to make" which we know is B.S. Proper promotion would've gone a long way though, I don't think Axl should be surprised that people don't connect with an album that should've come out earlier than it did multiple times and had very sporadic stop/start touring in support of it. I just think lack of music videos gives the album no visual identity especially 13 years later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underhardy Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 5 hours ago, AtlasShrugged said: When do you think they should release the Catcher in the Rye video? Perhaps July 16th when the book was officially released all those years ago Dude, just fuckin stop. You’re clearly delusional and everyone who’s viewed this thread has either laughed or scoffed at your thread. Are you even aware of the Better music video that leaked? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 2 hours ago, AtlasShrugged said: Why not? Axl always wanted to get the current players on the tracks and they've been killing it live on the tracks since 2016, with Slash taking the solos to a new level Like his This I Love solo? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Sweersa said: Like his This I Love solo? Probably the only solo Slash did better than the original imo... from the songs I'm listening to at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweersa Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 27 minutes ago, Free Bird said: Probably the only solo Slash did better than the original imo... from the songs I'm listening to at least. He makes Ashba sound like Buckethead on that song IMO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free Bird Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 13 minutes ago, Sweersa said: He makes Ashba sound like Buckethead on that song IMO Whatever you prefer dude... that's not my buisness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrichmond Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 11 hours ago, jamillos said: A question mark at the end of the thread title wouldn't be a bad idea, at least for any noobs. I'm on it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystery Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Free Bird said: Probably the only solo Slash did better than the original imo... from the songs I'm listening to at least. This is kind of a different topic but I always wonder if the version of TIL that ended up on Chinese Democracy is the same, at least vocally as the version that was intended for What Dreams May Come in 1998. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlasShrugged Posted March 8, 2022 Author Share Posted March 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Underhardy said: Dude, just fuckin stop. You’re clearly delusional and everyone who’s viewed this thread has either laughed or scoffed at your thread. Are you even aware of the Better music video that leaked? What are you talking about delusional? And what Better video? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rumandraisin Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 21 hours ago, mystery said: This is kind of a different topic but I always wonder if the version of TIL that ended up on Chinese Democracy is the same, at least vocally as the version that was intended for What Dreams May Come in 1998. No, the original was very sparse, axl and a piano I believe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystery Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 1 minute ago, rumandraisin said: No, the original was very sparse, axl and a piano I believe. I was looking up information on this, there's not info on whether the vocals are what ended on Chinese but Dave Dominguez around 2005 described the length as being 5-6 minutes which is accurate to the final song. There's also additional info I looked up that said the song was being worked on with instrumentation in 2005. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pele Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 On 3/7/2022 at 7:05 PM, rumandraisin said: Worryingly didn't axl say in like 2012 or 2014 something along the lines of "we're still working Chinese". I used to think MJ promoting albums 2 years on still releasing singles was absurd but in axls mind still plugging and touring a 6 year old album is incredible It's because he has nothing else to work on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janrichmond Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, Pele said: It's because he has nothing else to work on. Do you? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pele Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 12 minutes ago, janrichmond said: Do you? Yes, however the question posed was why did Rose say he was still working on Chinese in 2012 or 2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underhardy Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 On 3/8/2022 at 4:35 PM, AtlasShrugged said: What are you talking about delusional? And what Better video? A live/BTS music video for Better leaked way over a decade ago. You really need to brush up on your gnr, bud.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlasShrugged Posted March 10, 2022 Author Share Posted March 10, 2022 43 minutes ago, Underhardy said: A live/BTS music video for Better leaked way over a decade ago. You really need to brush up on your gnr, bud.. I don't obsess over things that happened that long ago - much more focussed on present-day GN'R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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