Will Smith punches Chris Rock at Oscars

[dontdamnmeuyi2015]

4 minutes ago, Oldest Goat said:

It's hilarious to me that some people would be foolish enough to have any faith in Hollywood to begin with. They've done very bad things, you know, such as extreme racism, sexual abuse and rape. But oh no Chris Rock got bitchslapped, that's the last fucking straw! Hahaha.

Btw yes Will is a hypocrite with all his peace and love lifestyle bullshit but I'd go as far as to say fuck you if you're dumb enough to buy into all that in the first place.

You are so right!

And what really annoyed me is here is a show about rich people wearing designer clothes and jewelry worth millions and during the show the commercials talked about Ukraine and how you can donate. Are you freaking kidding me?  Most of us are just trying to keep our heads above water from week to week and here are people who go to extremes to outdo each other and we have to donate to Ukraine?

If all those people donated $1000 it would help the whole damn world let alone Ukraine. I felt like it was just bullshit.

Honestly, these award shows need to stop beause even though they say you can do whatever you want in life, we all know most of that is bullshit and most of us are just regular people just trying to do our best and do our best.

[hudsonsaul]

8 hours ago, PatrickS77 said:

I think, had he not laughed about it seconds before, he wouldn't come off as such a douche. Not to say that Rock doesn't come off as a douche too.

Yeah they both come off as a bit douchey. Rock is a better comedian than that, and it seemed like an off the cuff gag - just an easy shit one. 

I thought it was all an act at first, then Wills reaction after he sat down wasn't acting imo (he isn't that a good actor to be fair) which changed my mind. 

I felt his laugh before the incident was in fact acting though, it was his typical showbiz laugh we've seen him do countless times. 

Pretty sure his reaction was also related to the potential for it to be open season of gags against him and his wife all night based on their whole open relationship thing that's been reported and commented on to death now. 

Felt Rock handled it well (his reaction moments after once reality settled in also makes me think it wasnt staged), and part of me can understand Smiths reaction - but another part of me just thinks he could have sucked it up and spoken to Rock privately (or slapped him privately). 

[alfierose]

1 hour ago, Oldest Goat said:

It's hilarious to me that some people would be foolish enough to have any faith in Hollywood to begin with. They've done very bad things, you know, such as extreme racism, sexual abuse and rape. But oh no Chris Rock got bitchslapped, that's the last fucking straw! Hahaha.

Btw yes Will is a hypocrite with all his peace and love lifestyle bullshit but I'd go as far as to say fuck you if you're dumb enough to buy into all that in the first place.

It's not that anyone thinks either Hollywood or Will Smith are great in the first place. I don't think anyone here does. It's that someone can commit a violent assault against the host, in a room full of people, televised to millions and there be no consequences to doing so. No security leaping in, nobody removing him from the building. Just passively doing nothing. There's something a bit Lynchian about it which is why I think it feels shocking.

[PatrickS77]

On 3/28/2022 at 10:07 PM, hudsonsaul said:

Yeah they both come off as a bit douchey. Rock is a better comedian than that, and it seemed like an off the cuff gag - just an easy shit one. 

I thought it was all an act at first, then Wills reaction after he sat down wasn't acting imo (he isn't that a good actor to be fair) which changed my mind. 

I felt his laugh before the incident was in fact acting though, it was his typical showbiz laugh we've seen him do countless times. 

Pretty sure his reaction was also related to the potential for it to be open season of gags against him and his wife all night based on their whole open relationship thing that's been reported and commented on to death now. 

Felt Rock handled it well (his reaction moments after once reality settled in also makes me think it wasnt staged), and part of me can understand Smiths reaction - but another part of me just thinks he could have sucked it up and spoken to Rock privately (or slapped him privately). 

Watching it again, it's just bizarre. First Smith laughs at the Javier Bardem - Penelope Cruz - Will Smith joke. Then he laughs again at the Jada joke. Then he gets up walks towards Rock and Rock laughs. Then he smacks him, turns around and looks like he's still laughing walking away. Then he sits down and angrily screams fuck you's at him. Yep. Rock handled it like a pro. And everything really has an otherworldly quality to it.

Edited April 2, 2022 by PatrickS77

[Gordon Comstock]

"Violent assault". Give me a fucking break.

Chris Rock talked shit, got hit, and that's the end of it. Yes, Will Smith is a bitch (which is why he slapped him) but we already knew that.

[downzy]

2 hours ago, PatrickS77 said:

Watching it again, it's just bizarre. First Smith laughs at the Javier Bardem - Selma Hyack - Will Smith joke. Then he laughs again at the Jada joke. Then he gets up walks towards Rock and Rock laughs. Then he smacks him, turns around and looks like he's still laughing walking away. Then he sits down and angrily screams fuck you's at him. Yep. Rock handled it like a pro. And everything really has an otherworldly quality to it.

Between his yelling and his deranged speech, it appears as though Smith is dealing with some sort of mental health issues or misdirected anger. 

The whole thing can't really be explained otherwise. 

2 hours ago, Oldest Goat said:

Some of them do shit like abuse and rape men, women and children

Let's keep your QAnon nonsense out of the thread.  

[downzy]

Again, does anyone know whether Rock even knew about Jada’s condition. I have a hard time believing he did. 

[PatrickS77]

10 minutes ago, downzy said:

Again, does anyone know whether Rock even knew about Jada’s condition. I have a hard time believing he did. 

Well. At least he (or his publicist) apologized, eventually. Should have done that during his speech though. Sounds all good, apart from the matter of him initially laughing at the joke. I still think he had to save face and do something, before his wive would put him into the dog house over laughing at her expense. But whatever. Hopefully he sorts out his anger issue or fear of his wife or whatever problem he might have.

[batatadoce]

7 hours ago, Gordon Comstock said:

"Violent assault". Give me a fucking break.

Chris Rock talked shit, got hit, and that's the end of it. Yes, Will Smith is a bitch (which is why he slapped him) but we already knew that.

So to you a joke is equivalent to assault, that's new, by this standards ricky gervais would have died about four times already. It still surprises me how many people think that slapping someone if they don't like what their are saying is normal (it's a crime), especially when this are powerful wealthy people acting like little children without repercussions.

[Stay.Of.Execution]

15 minutes ago, batatadoce said:

So to you a joke is equivalent to assault, that's new, by this standards ricky gervais would have died about four times already. It still surprises me how many people think that slapping someone if they don't like what their are saying is normal (it's a crime), especially when this are powerful wealthy people acting like little children without repercussions.

What do you expect from that guy? Something intelligent? 

[Gordon Comstock]

7 hours ago, batatadoce said:

So to you a joke is equivalent to assault, that's new, by this standards ricky gervais would have died about four times already. It still surprises me how many people think that slapping someone if they don't like what their are saying is normal (it's a crime), especially when this are powerful wealthy people acting like little children without repercussions.

 

Of course a joke isn't equivalent to assault, nor is slapping someone in response to a joke normal. How did you get "joke = assault" from my post?

But Will Smith reacting like an emotional child isn't exactly surprising, and one bitch-slap being blown out of proportion also isn't surprising.

[EvanG]

22 hours ago, downzy said:

If there was a moment that crystallized how pathetic the industry has become, that was it.  

He seems to be a respected and beloved person in Hollywood. One bad judgement call isn't going to stop people from applauding when he wins an oscar.
 

[downzy]

2 hours ago, EvanG said:

He seems to be a respected and beloved person in Hollywood. One bad judgement call isn't going to stop people from applauding when he wins an oscar.
 

He was respected and loved in Hollywood, until he decided to smack a presenter over a joke his wife found distasteful.  The apology he gave yesterday was the one he should have given when he got up to accept his award (despite the fact he should have been booted prior to it being announced).

And no, I don't think this incident should define who Smith is as a person.  You're right, it was one bad judgement call.

But again, in what world does someone who just committed indefensible act of violence receive a standing ovation 15-20 minutes later, all the while spewing nonsense about being a vessel for love?  It's insanity.

Again, he shouldn't have even been there to begin with to accept the Oscar.  Anyone else and they're getting kicked the fuck out.

Jim Carrey says it better than I can:

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/jim-carrey-slams-hollywood-will-smith-standing-ovation-slap-1235217924/

"I was sickened by the standing ovation. Hollywood is just spineless en masse and it really felt like this is a really clear indication that we aren’t the cool club anymore."

Carrey said Smith “should’ve been” escorted out of the Oscars ceremony after he slapped Rock. King noted that Chris Rock declined to file a police report about the incident, but Carrey claimed that was only because the comedian “didn’t want the hassle.”

"I’d have announced this morning that I was suing Will for $200 million because that video is going to be there forever, it’s going to be ubiquitous.  That insult is gonna last a very long time. If you want to yell from the audience and show disapproval or say something on Twitter [that’s fine]. But you do not have the right to walk up on stage and smack somebody in the face because they said words.

[The slap] came out of nowhere because Will has something going on inside him that’s frustrated. I wish him the best. I have nothing against Will Smith. He’s done great things, but that was not a good moment. It cast a shadow over everyone’s shining moment last night…It was a selfish moment.”

[dontdamnmeuyi2015]

Well, that's all it seems every news show and talk show is talking about. I swear I see the video in my sleep. lol

Will made a stupid decision and being human we tend to do that. I think Jada should have stopped him since she posted "that's how we do it", so I guess she agreed with Will in slapping Chris.

Anyway, Will can't attend the Oscars anymore. I wonder if this will fuck up his chances of getting good roles anymore. You never know?

Either way, wish it would just end and if Chris won't press charges against Will, then I think it should be dropped.

Violence never solves anything, but I understand how sometimes you can get so angry you just don't think straight and just act. But then again, we all have that part of our brain that says if I do this, this will happen. Guess Will's part of his brain was asleep at that time.

Either way, it's not the worse thing that has happened at the Oscars and probably won't be the last.

My mom remembers when Marlon Brando won the Oscar for The Godfather and a Native American woman came out to not accept the oscar and told them why Marlon felt that way. The whole audience booed her.  No one gave a shit that she was just the messanger and how it must have hurt her to be cut off.

Today everything has to be just right. Imagine if a black or latino person was booed on stage now? All hell would bread loose. Shows hao far we've come.  The Oscars can't say they aren't to blame for shit that happens, so maybe they should just do away with all this bullshit award shows and concentrate on giving women better roles as they age and equal pay and rights for all.

Hollywood has a legacies of so much shit going on this is just another example of actors thinkiny they can do whateve r they hell they want to do.

[downzy]

7 minutes ago, dontdamnmeuyi2015 said:

Either way, it's not the worse thing that has happened at the Oscars

What would you say has been worse?

[jimisbatman]

1 hour ago, downzy said:

He was respected and loved in Hollywood, until he decided to smack a presenter over a joke his wife found distasteful.  The apology he gave yesterday was the one he should have given when he got up to accept his award (despite the fact he should have been booted prior to it being announced).

And no, I don't think this incident should define who Smith is as a person.  You're right, it was one bad judgement call.

But again, in what world does someone who just committed indefensible act of violence receive a standing ovation 15-20 minutes later, all the while spewing nonsense about being a vessel for love?  It's insanity.

Again, he shouldn't have even been there to begin with to accept the Oscar.  Anyone else and they're getting kicked the fuck out.

Jim Carrey says it better than I can:

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/jim-carrey-slams-hollywood-will-smith-standing-ovation-slap-1235217924/

"I was sickened by the standing ovation. Hollywood is just spineless en masse and it really felt like this is a really clear indication that we aren’t the cool club anymore."

Carrey said Smith “should’ve been” escorted out of the Oscars ceremony after he slapped Rock. King noted that Chris Rock declined to file a police report about the incident, but Carrey claimed that was only because the comedian “didn’t want the hassle.”

"I’d have announced this morning that I was suing Will for $200 million because that video is going to be there forever, it’s going to be ubiquitous.  That insult is gonna last a very long time. If you want to yell from the audience and show disapproval or say something on Twitter [that’s fine]. But you do not have the right to walk up on stage and smack somebody in the face because they said words.

[The slap] came out of nowhere because Will has something going on inside him that’s frustrated. I wish him the best. I have nothing against Will Smith. He’s done great things, but that was not a good moment. It cast a shadow over everyone’s shining moment last night…It was a selfish moment.”

Perfectly said, wow. The slap was an over reaction and poor self management. If he is going to react that way on national TV due to him feeling 'disrespected,  with the world watching, what's he like behind closed doors to his family, when he feels 'disrespected'. 

[PatrickS77]

2 hours ago, downzy said:

But again, in what world does someone who just committed indefensible act of violence receive a standing ovation 15-20 minutes later, all the while spewing nonsense about being a vessel for love?  It's insanity.

Again, he shouldn't have even been there to begin with to accept the Oscar.  Anyone else and they're getting kicked the fuck out.

and sources say there appear to be no provisions addressing open-hand smacking across the face on the live show.

Another person close to the event pointed out that show producers did not want the optics of having security remove a beloved movie star from his seat, especially as Smith supporters highlighted the defense of his wife Jada Pinkett Smith. Rock’s joke about her bald head — a reference to Demi Moore’s “G.I. Jane” — invoked reference to Pinkett Smith’s open struggle with alopecia. The source indicated Rock’s joke was off the cuff, and not included in the script fed to him on teleprompters.

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/why-will-smith-wasnt-ejected-from-oscars-chris-rock-slap-1235217098/

 

They do know what to do though when there is closed fist punching to the guts.

Edited March 29, 2022 by PatrickS77

[downzy]

26 minutes ago, PatrickS77 said:

and sources say there appear to be no provisions addressing open-hand smacking across the face on the live show.

Another person close to the event pointed out that show producers did not want the optics of having security remove a beloved movie star from his seat, especially as Smith supporters highlighted the defense of his wife Jada Pinkett Smith. Rock’s joke about her bald head — a reference to Demi Moore’s “G.I. Jane” — invoked reference to Pinkett Smith’s open struggle with alopecia. The source indicated Rock’s joke was off the cuff, and not included in the script fed to him on teleprompters.

https://variety.com/2022/film/news/why-will-smith-wasnt-ejected-from-oscars-chris-rock-slap-1235217098/

 

They do know what to do though when there is closed fist punching to the guts.

No provision on an open hand smacking???  What the actual fuck?  That’s utter lunacy.  I wonder if the Toronto Blue Jays have a policy on open hand smacking.  Do I get to stay in the building if I slap someone versus hitting them with a close fist.

So instead of the optics of escorting an abuser out of the building they decided the better visual was to have the entire audience cheer the abuser on…

I cam promise you that if it was Jessica Chastain’s husband who slapped Rock because he insulted his wife he would have been removed immediately.  Because nobody knows who Chastain’s husband is. 

[downzy]

O.J. understands the sentiment behind protecting Jada…  The guy who murdered his wife gets where Will was coming from.

 

[PatrickS77]

3 minutes ago, downzy said:

O.J. understands the sentiment behind protecting Jada…  The guy who murdered his wife gets where Will was coming from.

 

You can't make that shit up. But I get it, jokes about how you killed your wife never are funny.

[Dazey]

29 minutes ago, PatrickS77 said:

You can't make that shit up. But I get it, jokes about how you killed your wife never are funny.

Yeah, Norm MacDonald would disagree. 😂

 

[PatrickS77]

16 minutes ago, Dazey said:

Yeah, Norm MacDonald would disagree. 😂

 

Oh, well.... I kinda stick with what I said... Sorta.

[cineater]

The look on her face at the joke is heart breaking.  I think for Will Smith to lose his shit tells how much the family is suffering with what's going on.  We probably don't know the whole story of her medical condition and what she has gone through.

[Rovim]

3 minutes ago, cineater said:

The look on her face at the joke is heart breaking.  I think for Will Smith to lose his shit tells how much the family is suffering with what's going on.  We probably don't know the whole story of her medical condition and what she has gone through.

we know she said she doesn't give a shit what people think about the bald head thing a week before the oscars took place.

[cineater]

2 hours ago, Rovim said:

we know she said she doesn't give a shit what people think about the bald head thing a week before the oscars took place.

That's a statement people say when they are angry.  Anger can be a response to being scared.  In this case unable to control a medical situation.  No sure what's going on with her but it sounds like chemo treatment.  Did you see her face?  A joke is funny when people laugh with you, not when people laugh at you.