Swedish Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 (edited) On 6/8/2022 at 1:25 AM, Tom-Ass said: Agree 100%.. They seem a lot looser and sound better without the Pyro.. And click track if that is the case.. Never cared for the Pyro anyway. I agree on the who pyro thing, I personally find it kind of tacky. If Kiss does it, that's one thing, it's their schtick. But when bands that aren't famous for their stage shows does it, like GN'R for example, then it's just tacky. Edited June 9, 2022 by Swedish 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lio Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 On 6/7/2022 at 12:40 PM, SoulMonster said: Straight from the horse's mouth: Because pyro isn't allowed in all countries on the tour so they dropped it altogether. I thought it might be that. We have less and less fireworks because mostly animal activists protest against it. It seemed every new year a horse died from shock and multiple dogs ran off in panic. And that's only talking about pets or domesticated animals. Private fireworks are almost banned everywhere now and there's less and less 'official' fireworks too. As a fan of fireworks, I do regret it, even if I get why they ban it. But I don't really need it on a GNR show. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratam Posted June 9, 2022 Share Posted June 9, 2022 6 hours ago, Lio said: I thought it might be that. We have less and less fireworks because mostly animal activists protest against it. It seemed every new year a horse died from shock and multiple dogs ran off in panic. And that's only talking about pets or domesticated animals. Private fireworks are almost banned everywhere now and there's less and less 'official' fireworks too. As a fan of fireworks, I do regret it, even if I get why they ban it. But I don't really need it on a GNR show. It is a problem to people that suffern of autism too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
©GnrPersia Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 (edited) On 6/7/2022 at 11:54 PM, Kearnsy said: Wonder how Rammstein get away with it As a long time fan and follower of Rammstein, I can say it's because their stage identity is very much intertwined with pyro and fireworks that it would look ridiculous and karaoke without them. Edited June 10, 2022 by ©GnrPersia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlasShrugged Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 I just saw the end of Paradise City from one of the shows, I definitely think it's missed. Adds to the spectacle of the show. Doesn't need to be overkill but I definitely enjoyed it at all the shows I've been at 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunsJail Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 On 6/7/2022 at 10:40 AM, mikeman5150 said: I heard that during 2021 many bands pyro technicians bailed for greener pastures because of the time off during covid. I think lack of workers is also why RHCP postponed their tour last year. Many of these guys had to leave their professions in order to put food on the table. It makes sense to me, as well as what someone said earlier about minimizing the crew. I don’t buy that it’s for saving money. I mean even when Axl was touring with new GNR, they still had pyro where it was allowed and confetti during paradise city. RHCP didn’t postpone a tour from last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arrio Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 They had to choose between izzy and pyro... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeman5150 Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 1 hour ago, LunsJail said: RHCP didn’t postpone a tour from last year. You’re right, I got them mixed up with Rage against the machine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseCDII Posted June 13, 2022 Share Posted June 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, arrio said: They had to choose between izzy and pyro... So they chose neither? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatashame Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 they got rid of pyro 'cause with some many people on the stage, and Axl being fat, there are so many farts on the stage, a single spark could blow the whole production up! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonah Posted June 18, 2022 Share Posted June 18, 2022 Motley Crüe didn’t use pyro either which is unfortunate cause that was the only good part of their show. Must be cost cutting 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stay.Of.Execution Posted June 18, 2022 Author Share Posted June 18, 2022 They also seemed to have cut down on their stage. It's smaller than previous tours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axl_on_drums Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 (edited) On 6/18/2022 at 3:58 PM, Stay.Of.Execution said: They also seemed to have cut down on their stage. It's smaller than previous tours. I'm seeing GNR on Tuesday so I'm brushing up on the current tour. That stage is seriously unimpressive. Easily the worst stadium act stage on the road at the moment. Lights etc, all pretty weak. Looks like a budget stadium tour Edited June 26, 2022 by axl_on_drums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiguns Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, axl_on_drums said: I'm seeing GNR on Tuesday so I'm brushing up on the current tour. That stage is seriously unimpressive. Easily the worst stadium act stage on the road at the moment. Lights etc, all pretty weak. Looks like a budget stadium tour Did you ever think the issue might be logistics and the cost of transport that has affected every major country in the world including supply chain shortages as building materials and food. Guns N Roses cannot control what is currently happening in the world so maybe the band and tour promoters were smart enough to factor this in via touring on a smaller scale to allow for easy transportation around the world to ensure staging and gear actually arrives at its destination on time. Maybe you should speak with builders or construction companies waiting for months to receive building materials because of a world wide issue in relation to, supply, shipping and transportation (by air or road). Also factor in bands keeping their touring bubbles small to limit the impact of the spread of COVID-19 amongst the band and crew more so via mixing with local crew members brought in from outside the bands normal touring party as stage riggers, to technical, as sound and lighting engineers etc. Edited June 26, 2022 by kiwiguns 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mystery Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 (edited) The question of this thread reminds me of Kevin Nash in WCW. One particular entrance of his had a ridiculous amount of pyro to the point of excess. Edited June 26, 2022 by mystery 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 On 6/18/2022 at 7:53 AM, jonah said: Motley Crüe didn’t use pyro either which is unfortunate cause that was the only good part of their show. Must be cost cutting Yeah, I heard to cut down on hard labor for their tours Vince Neil also removed 50 percent of the lyrics and decipherable diction from the show as well 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axl_on_drums Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 10 hours ago, kiwiguns said: Did you ever think the issue might be logistics and the cost of transport that has affected every major country in the world including supply chain shortages as building materials and food. Guns N Roses cannot control what is currently happening in the world so maybe the band and tour promoters were smart enough to factor this in via touring on a smaller scale to allow for easy transportation around the world to ensure staging and gear actually arrives at its destination on time. Maybe you should speak with builders or construction companies waiting for months to receive building materials because of a world wide issue in relation to, supply, shipping and transportation (by air or road). Also factor in bands keeping their touring bubbles small to limit the impact of the spread of COVID-19 amongst the band and crew more so via mixing with local crew members brought in from outside the bands normal touring party as stage riggers, to technical, as sound and lighting engineers etc. You're absolutely right, it could be all those issues, if GNR want to keep the bubble small that is completely understandable and pretty smart That said I'm seeing the Hella Mega Tour the day before GNR and none of that has impacted them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nintari Posted June 26, 2022 Share Posted June 26, 2022 (edited) On 6/7/2022 at 9:02 AM, GoBucky said: Exactly...that click track video was extremely embarrassing. It's cool that at least one genre of music (rock) still refuses to tolerate that happy horse shit. In pop, for instance, nobody even cares anymore. It's like, yeah, I paid a thousand dollars to see so-and-so lip sync... but so what? It's still fun! It's one of those moments where you just shake your head, sigh, and then casually walk backwards through the hedges like Homer Simpson. Edited June 26, 2022 by Nintari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunderram Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 On 6/7/2022 at 3:44 AM, jacdaniel said: Obviously so it's easier for them to change up the set list. They love doing that They surely used to back in the day. But judging from the recent setlists I've seen, they are getting back to the old practice. They've been omitting certain songs here and there and varying up the order. Great to see! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhazUp Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 2 hours ago, thunderram said: They surely used to back in the day. But judging from the recent setlists I've seen, they are getting back to the old practice. They've been omitting certain songs here and there and varying up the order. Great to see! All that is needed is... new songs and different songs! Then that will be a great place for GNR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 On 6/26/2022 at 5:19 AM, kiwiguns said: Did you ever think the issue might be logistics and the cost of transport that has affected every major country in the world including supply chain shortages as building materials and food. Guns N Roses cannot control what is currently happening in the world so maybe the band and tour promoters were smart enough to factor this in via touring on a smaller scale to allow for easy transportation around the world to ensure staging and gear actually arrives at its destination on time. Maybe you should speak with builders or construction companies waiting for months to receive building materials because of a world wide issue in relation to, supply, shipping and transportation (by air or road). Also factor in bands keeping their touring bubbles small to limit the impact of the spread of COVID-19 amongst the band and crew more so via mixing with local crew members brought in from outside the bands normal touring party as stage riggers, to technical, as sound and lighting engineers etc. You know Kiss are touring Europe (and the world) right now? These issues don't seem to have impacted on their absolutely massive production...... Nor on Lady Gaga, Coldplay, Green Day, etc etc. It's about money. Pure and simple. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stay.Of.Execution Posted July 1, 2022 Author Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 hour ago, allwaystired said: You know Kiss are touring Europe (and the world) right now? These issues don't seem to have impacted on their absolutely massive production...... Nor on Lady Gaga, Coldplay, Green Day, etc etc. It's about money. Pure and simple. Rammstein (btw, the best stadium show you can see. if you have the chance, do yourself the favour and go) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom2112 Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Those pyro cost a lot of money, so it's no surprise they are the first thing to go. I'd say it'll be back again next year or for NZ/Oz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 3 hours ago, Stay.Of.Execution said: Rammstein (btw, the best stadium show you can see. if you have the chance, do yourself the favour and go) Yeah I've heard this.....friends of mine went the other week, so i missed my chance! I heard great things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jekylhyde Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Stay.Of.Execution said: Rammstein (btw, the best stadium show you can see. if you have the chance, do yourself the favour and go) As a person who is really concerned about climate change and the future of Earth, that looks seriously disturbing and wrong. As a rock/art/performance/music fan, that looks fucking amazing. Edited July 1, 2022 by jekylhyde 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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