Get well, Axl!

[Oldest Goat]

4 minutes ago, Ratam said:

Yoda is dead too.

Just call up Bret Michaels spiritual guide, Darth Plagueis The Wise, problem solved.

[YOUCOULDBEMINE.]

I expected this to happen between 2011 and 2014 or after the touring with AC/DC. Is it really that much worse now?

I have not been checking the recent performances because I figured it'd be more of what we got in recent years.

Hope he gets over it, anxiety attacks are no joke.

 

[koldbeer2]

39 minutes ago, Voodoochild said:

No expert here, but I do have vocal lessons and A LOT of experience in anxiety.

To be able to sing in high pitch in a safe way you need to relax your vocal fold and have tons of air control on your chest muscles and diaphragm. Try to have both while having an anxiety panic knowing that thousands of fans paid to be there to watch you.

Don't think it has anything to do with him losing his high pitch voice, albeit it's more than normal to have deterioration with his age.

Yeah, though my gut feeling is he had the anxiety because he knew his voice probably wasn't up for the task the following night, and as you say any anxiety is not going to help to keep things relaxed.

I also do agree that his high voice isn't gone and last night was probably a symptom of some underlying illness. I'm sure we will hear the higher voice stuff again soon enough, though whether he is ready for Glasgow is something I wouldn't want to bet on.

With that being said it is becoming increasingly thin and airy, which comes often with wear and tear as you say. At some point probably within the next few years I suspect he will have a choice to make forced upon him (much like a bigger version of 2018 when his voice just kept giving way in TIL) and IMO it may be a good idea to start that process now, especially on songs that sounded pretty good with it such as Civil War. 

Regardless should he perform at Glasgow, it will be interesting to see how he approaches it. My guess is he will try the higher voice and shift again if needed.

[kiwiguns]

I would have thought that unless confirmed officially, it's pure speculation or rumor. 

No other sources have backed up any of these claims mentioned. 

I find it hard in understanding why people feel it's comfortable to discuss people's health or mental status more so those they don't know.. 

The fact a majority here actually believe this might be true without any official confirmation, who are now medical experts of the ear, nose and throat specialist kind or mental health professionals. 

How about we show some respect and dignity and not get to deep into the rabbit hole.

Clearly to some there are no boundaries... 

And you wonder why band members and band management dont responded or communicate with a section of their fan base more so those on this forum. 

Its convenient to use an unnamed source to make anything you like up, as it cannot ever be confirmed or denied.. 

 

 

Edited July 4, 2022 by kiwiguns

[janrichmond]

4 minutes ago, kiwiguns said:

The fact a majority here actually believe this might be true without any official confirmation, who are now medical experts of the ear, noise and throat specialist kind or mental health professionals. 

you don't think you're stretching it a bit?😆

[DTJ80]

1 hour ago, Voodoochild said:

No expert here, but I do have vocal lessons and A LOT of experience in anxiety.

To be able to sing in high pitch in a safe way you need to relax your vocal fold and have tons of air control on your chest muscles and diaphragm. Try to have both while having an anxiety panic knowing that thousands of fans paid to be there to watch you.

Don't think it has anything to do with him losing his high pitch voice, albeit it's more than normal to have deterioration with his age.

That’s really interesting. Cheers for sharing. 👍

[Gordon Comstock]

22 minutes ago, kiwiguns said:

I would have thought that unless confirmed officially, it's pure speculation or rumor. 

No other sources have back up any of these claims mentioned. 

I find it hard in understanding why people feel it's comfortable to discuss people's health or mental status more so those they don't know.. 

The fact a majority here actually believe this might be true without any official confirmation, who are now medical experts of the ear, nose and throat specialist kind or mental health professionals. 

How about we show some respect and dignity and not get to deep into the rabbit hole.

Clearly to some there are no boundaries... 

 

 

I agree it gets weird/creepy at times with how people perceive Axl and his issues, but did you miss the part where he said he'd gone to the doctor and slept at the stadium? He said it onstage before Live And Let Die. It's more than just speculation that he's having issues.

[Draguns]

6 hours ago, Tom2112 said:

How do you explain the US tour last year? He might have prepared but it was not enough and the results spoke for their self.

Regardless. Anxiety attacks are no joke, he is trying and I hope he takes a long stint away from the internet. A little criticism is fine, but at present almost every post/article about him is saying how shit his voice is.... Not about to say he's excellent, but I think he's actually put on some great shows. Of course Sweden rock had all the journalists and he wasn't really great that night, that's unfortunate... And it's unfortunate that one article highly circulated can effectively change the minds of your average fan. 

We are used to Axls ups and downs, I'd also sag the majority here are quite critical of his voice and say it how it is and the majority here are pleased with his recent efforts. I know I am. Far more prep work, he looks better and the set is Luke 1% less stagnant.

You brought up the U.S. tour. Were you there in person? I saw them perform at MetLife Stadium last year. Axl's voice was good. I think people are expecting how he was previously in the 80s and 90s. You can't expect that from him nowadays. Those days are gone.  He's performing pretty good. As others have said, I think he tries too hard at times. I  think that's always been the case with him. It's just as fans we don't see what's behind closed doors. 

[DurhamGirl]

I hope you feel better soon Axl.

[vail2004]

3 minutes ago, Draguns said:

You brought up the U.S. tour. Were you there in person? I saw them perform at MetLife Stadium last year. Axl's voice was good. I think people are expecting how he was previously in the 80s and 90s. You can't expect that from him nowadays. Those days are gone.  He's performing pretty good. As others have said, I think he tries too hard at times. I  think that's always been the case with him. It's just as fans we don't see what's behind closed doors. 

100% accurate.  He was terrific when I saw them last summer and everyone at the show said the same thing

This forum has become a cesspool of people who wish it was 1991 again. I am thrilled the Gunners are still going strong.

[Draguns]

59 minutes ago, kiwiguns said:

I would have thought that unless confirmed officially, it's pure speculation or rumor. 

No other sources have back up any of these claims mentioned. 

I find it hard in understanding why people feel it's comfortable to discuss people's health or mental status more so those they don't know.. 

The fact a majority here actually believe this might be true without any official confirmation, who are now medical experts of the ear, nose and throat specialist kind or mental health professionals. 

How about we show some respect and dignity and not get to deep into the rabbit hole.

Clearly to some there are no boundaries... 

 

I agree with your post. I think this has always been the case with people in general. I know that people have speculated about my health because of my disability. It's something that society needs to work on. 

With that being said, something is up with Axl. He wouldn't be sleeping at the stadium if he was ok with his mental health. I hope he's ok. Lastly, I think that fans need to respect his health status whatever it is. 

[Gordon Comstock]

10 minutes ago, Draguns said:

I think people are expecting how he was previously in the 80s and 90s. You can't expect that from him nowadays. Those days are gone.

 

6 minutes ago, vail2004 said:

This forum has become a cesspool of people who wish it was 1991 again.

 

I always laugh when I read stuff like this. What forum are you guys reading? Literally nobody here expects these guys to sound like they did in the 90s, in fact most seem to have accepted that even 2016-level is unattainable.

There's plenty of valid criticisms that can be made, but instead of actual discussion some people here instantly resort to "he's 60" or "it's not 1991 anymore"... no shit! Who's arguing with that!?

[Tom2112]

35 minutes ago, Draguns said:

You brought up the U.S. tour. Were you there in person? I saw them perform at MetLife Stadium last year. Axl's voice was good. I think people are expecting how he was previously in the 80s and 90s. You can't expect that from him nowadays. Those days are gone.  He's performing pretty good. As others have said, I think he tries too hard at times. I  think that's always been the case with him. It's just as fans we don't see what's behind closed doors. 

No, I wasn't I used my functioning ears to discern good from bad. He isn't his 90s or  00s now. But in 2021 he was by far the worst he ever sounded on those opening shows. He got better but it was marginal in comparison to what he's doing on this tour. No way would 2021 sing back in black or even NV with body/rasp. This year is different. Not a complete overhaul but an improvement 

[Draguns]

19 minutes ago, Tom2112 said:

No, I wasn't I used my functioning ears to discern good from bad. He isn't his 90s or  00s now. But in 2021 he was by far the worst he ever sounded on those opening shows. He got better but it was marginal in comparison to what he's doing on this tour. No way would 2021 sing back in black or even NV with body/rasp. This year is different. Not a complete overhaul but an improvement 

I have to respectful disagree with you on this. I was there and got really good seats at MetLife Stadium. I was dead center. His performance was really good!  He didn't  sound as bad as you portray him to be. The MetLife show was the third show last year.  As you know, Axl has always had an issue with the first show of any tour. It goes back to his prime. It is what it is with him and the first show of a tour. In the years that I have been  following GNR, it seems like the  first show of this tour was an exception. 

[We love Axl Rose]

1 hour ago, Tom2112 said:

No, I wasn't I used my functioning ears to discern good from bad. He isn't his 90s or  00s now. But in 2021 he was by far the worst he ever sounded on those opening shows. He got better but it was marginal in comparison to what he's doing on this tour. No way would 2021 sing back in black or even NV with body/rasp. This year is different. Not a complete overhaul but an improvement 

100%.

This year Axl sounds much better than in 2021, especially if we compare the start of the tour last year and this year.

[We love Axl Rose]

53 minutes ago, Draguns said:

I have to respectful disagree with you on this. I was there and got really good seats at MetLife Stadium. I was dead center. His performance was really good!  He didn't  sound as bad as you portray him to be. The MetLife show was the third show last year.  As you know, Axl has always had an issue with the first show of any tour. It goes back to his prime. It is what it is with him and the first show of a tour. In the years that I have been  following GNR, it seems like the  first show of this tour was an exception. 

Just listen to for example YCBM and Better from MetLife show in 2021, and YCBM and Better from any show from this tour to the London shows and tell us if you feel the same way as you do now.

[StrangerInThisTown]

3 hours ago, kiwiguns said:

I would have thought that unless confirmed officially, it's pure speculation or rumor. 

No other sources have backed up any of these claims mentioned. 

I find it hard in understanding why people feel it's comfortable to discuss people's health or mental status more so those they don't know.. 

The fact a majority here actually believe this might be true without any official confirmation, who are now medical experts of the ear, nose and throat specialist kind or mental health professionals. 

How about we show some respect and dignity and not get to deep into the rabbit hole.

Clearly to some there are no boundaries... 

And you wonder why band members and band management dont responded or communicate with a section of their fan base more so those on this forum. 

 

 

Get a grip, he's a public person. People discuss everything about you if you're that level of famous, down to your sex life and relationships, it comes with the territory and he's been in the limelight for over 30 years now, he's bound to be used to that going on and I'm quite sure he doesn't need YOU to speak for him or worry for him either.

Edited July 3, 2022 by StrangerInThisTown

[Draguns]

13 hours ago, We love Axl Rose said:

Just listen to for example YCBM and Better from MetLife show in 2021, and YCBM and Better from any show from this tour to the London shows and tell us if you feel the same way as you do now.

I was there in person.  Overall, the performance was  good.  Did he make some improvements into this year. Yeah, he did. 

Edited July 4, 2022 by Draguns

[marlingrl03]

7 hours ago, Gordon Comstock said:

 

Ha! Good one. I actually watched that last night.

But back on topic.....we are all thinking of you Axl. Health first! 

[WhazUp]

7 hours ago, kiwiguns said:

I would have thought that unless confirmed officially, it's pure speculation or rumor. 

No other sources have backed up any of these claims mentioned. 

I find it hard in understanding why people feel it's comfortable to discuss people's health or mental status more so those they don't know.. 

The fact a majority here actually believe this might be true without any official confirmation, who are now medical experts of the ear, nose and throat specialist kind or mental health professionals. 

How about we show some respect and dignity and not get to deep into the rabbit hole.

Clearly to some there are no boundaries... 

And you wonder why band members and band management dont responded or communicate with a section of their fan base more so those on this forum. 

 

 

If you can make ONE post that doesn't give off the vibes like you are a secret Team Brazil member I think that hell would indeed hath  frozen over

 

Seriously everyone, look at this dude's post history.  @kiwigunsis either IN TB or is auditioning hard lol.  All due respect man, has your trying to police what people discuss since your join date in 2016 actually done anything? Just shoot the shit with us and we weird like the rest of us

Edited July 4, 2022 by WhazUp

[darkside259]

Axl no matter what the press say, you r more than a simger for many of us, for me you r like a mantra, someone who made me get trought dark times with you r songs or you pasion in the stage, no matter what you r a star, get well if you resd this love from argentina 

[B5Redeye]

4 hours ago, Draguns said:

I was there in person.  Overall, the performance was  good.  Did he make some improvements into this. Yeah, he did. 

I was there too. 3rd row center behind the pit. It was a great show. Was also at Hard Rock a month later in Atlantic City and it was even better.

Being there in person is so much different than sitting around watching YouTube videos.

Get well soon Axl. Need you back in the US next year.

[JAxlMorrison]

I think a lot of us may have to accept the reality that this might be it. They fulfill the tour obligations and either take a very long break, or Axl is going to retire.

so after all the set list complaints, the where’s the new music stuff, we might lose the band for good. And eventually, maybe, we’ll all realize we had it pretty good.

[Draguns]

2 hours ago, JAxlMorrison said:

I think a lot of us may have to accept the reality that this might be it. They fulfill the tour obligations and either take a very long break, or Axl is going to retire.

so after all the set list complaints, the where’s the new music stuff, we might lose the band for good. And eventually, maybe, we’ll all realize we had it pretty good.

Slash is touring with SMKC in Europe for the beginning of 2023. There  will be a break. How long of a break who knows. I don't see Axl retiring.  

[Draguns]

7 hours ago, B5Redeye said:

I was there too. 3rd row center behind the pit. It was a great show. Was also at Hard Rock a month later in Atlantic City and it was even better.

Being there in person is so much different than sitting around watching YouTube videos.

Get well soon Axl. Need you back in the US next year.

I wanted to go see the Hard Rock show, but I had tickets for the NY Giants that weekend. The MetLife show was really good.