Original Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Back in 2008 or so it was rumored that Axl was going to release a video for Better. Whatever happened I wonder? Anyone have any insight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontdamnmeuyi2015 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 When Axl was on Eddie Trunk he said something about not wanting to do a video because he wanted the fans to listen to CD and imagine for themselves. I also think because many video channels don't play videos anymore and they cost lots of money to make, Axl said forget it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twinaleblood Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Never officially released, but it got leaked a few years later. I think you can still find it on YouTube, unless it's been taken down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dean Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 13 minutes ago, dontdamnmeuyi2015 said: When Axl was on Eddie Trunk he said something about not wanting to do a video because he wanted the fans to listen to CD and imagine for themselves. It seemed Axl, by that 2011 interview, was still intending on dropping music videos for Chinese as he makes a note of one of their points by saying he wanted the fans to have a certain amount of time to digest the songs before hitting them with what he had in mind, something to that effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stay.Of.Execution Posted December 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2022 Fernando is still waiting on Lars Ulrich to sign off on it 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnR Chris Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Same thing that happened to the new songs that were supped to be releasing earlier this year. In all seriousness, the rumor was Lars was in the video and didn’t sign a release. But that was so bogus. Not only did Lars, I think, deny that to be true. But they could have easily just removed the clip of Lars from the video if they wanted it out there. GNR just don’t do normal band things. Axl didn’t promote Chinese at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stay.Of.Execution Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 "Exit Lars, enter night" 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 The leaked video is interesting, but really not that great. The Buckethead footage was clearly out of place, and the mix of betacam and film (from the Hammerstein gigs, I assume) was jarring to say the least. The live concept was good, tho. And I liked the little red demons hidden throughout the video. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Honestly, the video sucked. At least, the version we've seen was poorly done, and if that's what Axl wanted to release 'in a week or so' (December 2008) they made the right decision by shelving it. There's some cool shots but the 'band member intros' at the beginning were really lame, and overall it was poorly edited, it looked very amateur. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattromero Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 The video that leaked is shit, but it would be amazing if they did the video with the stop motion concept with the desert bird people and shit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cineater Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 (edited) Sorry, I think that link is not allowed so I removed it. It's the Harley Davidson Black Sheep video on youtube This is now done to Paradise City but as I remember it was originally done to a CD song, was it Better? There was more footage. This was pulled, maybe not even released on TV, because the black sheep had a racist reference. Who knew? Long time ago, don't remember all the details. Edited December 2, 2022 by cineater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cineater Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 2 minutes ago, Stay.Of.Execution said: I think I might have got you in trouble. I don't think the link is allowed so you may want to delete that. So it was done to Better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggers Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 After it was leaked it was obvious why it was canned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon87 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 7 hours ago, Voodoochild said: The leaked video is interesting, but really not that great. The Buckethead footage was clearly out of place, and the mix of betacam and film (from the Hammerstein gigs, I assume) was jarring to say the least. The live concept was good, tho. And I liked the little red demons hidden throughout the video. Never seen that before, is there any way you guys know of to watch this video somewhere? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stay.Of.Execution Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Spoon87 said: Never seen that before, is there any way you guys know of to watch this video somewhere? just google "guns n roses better music video" you can tell fernando just started workin with microsoft video editor, such poor quality Edited December 2, 2022 by Stay.Of.Execution Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon87 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 2 hours ago, Stay.Of.Execution said: just google "guns n roses better music video" you can tell fernando just started workin with microsoft video editor, such poor quality Just found it on some Peruvian GNR fangroup on facebook and yeah, I agree, it's pretty bad. Compare this video to all the classic videos (except maybe Garden of Eden) and it would stick out in a really negative way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamillos Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Coulda been just some early version. Remember State of Grace. Or Nothing. There may have been more versions as well. I liked it, too bad it didn't pan out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodoochild Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 3 hours ago, Spoon87 said: Just found it on some Peruvian GNR fangroup on facebook and yeah, I agree, it's pretty bad. Compare this video to all the classic videos (except maybe Garden of Eden) and it would stick out in a really negative way. Indeed. Even if comparing to the "live" ones, like Dead Horse and LALD. Hell, even the Live Era WTTJ. 2 hours ago, jamillos said: Coulda been just some early version. Remember State of Grace. Or Nothing. There may have been more versions as well. I liked it, too bad it didn't pan out. Did we ever get to know how this leaked in the first place? As far as I remember, there was another Better video in the works based in Robin's original concept. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovim Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, Voodoochild said: Indeed. Even if comparing to the "live" ones, like Dead Horse and LALD. Hell, even the Live Era WTTJ. Did we ever get to know how this leaked in the first place? As far as I remember, there was another Better video in the works based in Robin's original concept. always thought the Live Era WTTJ music video was quite powerful. Anyway, wasn't there an idea kicking around for doing an animated music video for Better? could have worked. I think the title track had potential for a good music video as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Voodoochild Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, Blackstar said: Vaguely remember this, not sure if I had read the whole conversation. Very rude to not only annoy Ron like that, but also print and make it public. And Ron was 100% right. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackstar Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 3 minutes ago, Voodoochild said: Vaguely remember this, not sure if I had read the whole conversation. Very rude to not only annoy Ron like that, but also print and make it public. And Ron was 100% right. Yeah, I reckoned it was a private conversation, but it was made public - and has been public since - anyway. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunsJail Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 I never understood why Ron was in this band. He didn’t want to be there and many of the other members didn’t want him there either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon87 Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 12 minutes ago, Blackstar said: That's almost painful to read. What a dick move to annoy Ron like that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Graeme Posted December 2, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted December 2, 2022 12 minutes ago, LunsJail said: I never understood why Ron was in this band. He didn’t want to be there and many of the other members didn’t want him there either. I mean, he did at the beginning, until it wore him down. He arguably had the best attitude of any of them from 2006-2011. The lack of understanding shown after he had his car accident started a downward spiral. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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