Axl spoke & sang at Lisa Marie Presleys memorial (small interview pg 5)

[D4NNY]

1 minute ago, Rovim said:

actually, it can make it more challenging to sing,

There ain’t no use in challenging these judgemental/hate posters recently. Sadly it’s all about what they want/expect and no one else can be right or be a voice of reason or logic. 
What I don’t understand is if they are so “done” with Axl, why are they even wasting their time on here? But hey… what do we know, they’re right, we’re wrong 🤷🏻‍♂️ 
 

[F*ck Fear]

6 minutes ago, DustNBones1990 said:

There ain’t no use in challenging these judgemental/hate posters recently. Sadly it’s all about what they want/expect and no one else can be right or be a voice of reason or logic. 
What I don’t understand is if they are so “done” with Axl, why are they even wasting their time on here? But hey… what do we know, they’re right, we’re wrong 🤷🏻‍♂️ 
 

I've been a member here for 20 years. Defended Axl in 2002 when most were shitting on his voice. It's terrible now. 

I check back in case things change. 

[F*ck Fear]

2 minutes ago, Oldest Goat said:

Strong words from a clearly weak and mean spirited individual.

#SmallDickEnergy

That's fine. Your opinion of me means nothing to me.

You were the one who didn't like my opinion and told me what to do, I sent it back your way.

[BucketEgg]

It's too bad that dead people can't watch their own funerals. I think Lisa Marie would have been happy to see her friend perform November Rain for her.

Alanis Morissette's performance was beautiful as well.

[D4NNY]

4 minutes ago, F*ck Fear said:

I've been a member here for 20 years. Defended Axl in 2002 when most were shitting on his voice. It's terrible now. 

I check back in case things change. 

Hey man, everyone is entitled to an opinion. But bringing negativity to others positivity just seems uncool, especially in amongst this thread. You defended him 20 years ago against people “shitting on his voice”… I guess it’s gone full circle, you’re “that” person now. Why waste you’re own time, maybe find another artist you can truly enjoy?

[allwaystired]

I have to say, I wouldn't have wanted a camera in my face at my friend's funeral. 

I did actually watch this clip, out of curiosity.

I don't think it's very fair to judge it really, given the occasion, but it is astonishing to me that people would think it sounds ok. 

Before we start the "you're a hater" bullshit, and the studious ignoring of all the positive things people say about GNR in favour of the negative.....it probably isn't the occasion to criticize his voice at all. 

Heartfelt, clearly, at a difficult occasion for any human being, let alone one where he was  asked to sing with a camera in his face while he tries to do it. Did it sound good? Very much not to my ears, but it isn't the place for that sort of debate I don't think. 

So....I guess both sides of the debate are right, all things considered. 

 

[Nintari]

21 hours ago, Tom-Ass said:

This. When I saw this cross my feed last night and I clicked on it. I wanted it to be amazing, but same. He sounded like a dying cat. It wasn't because he was choked up, because this is how he always sounds. It was just more in your face in this performance. The worst part is that I could hear him using his lower register voice (not necessarily baritone) in my head as he was singing, and it would have sounded great. 

Yes, lower register is what I meant lol. I have no idea what baritone, tenor and soprano actually mean in the literal sense. I just know they are low, medium and high haha.

But yes, if he doesn't use his lower voice, he needs to just stop imo.

Edited January 24, 2023 by Nintari

[F*ck Fear]

18 minutes ago, DustNBones1990 said:

Hey man, everyone is entitled to an opinion. But bringing negativity to others positivity just seems uncool, especially in amongst this thread. You defended him 20 years ago against people “shitting on his voice”… I guess it’s gone full circle, you’re “that” person now. Why waste you’re own time, maybe find another artist you can truly enjoy?

You're right no question about it. And I appreciate your post.

I've checked back many times the last few years to see if Axls voice has improved because it has in the past. 

It isn't improving to my ears so it's time.to check out again!

[Rovim]

Just now, F*ck Fear said:

It isn't improving to my ears so it's time.to check out again!

don't forget to go outside

[Nintari]

Just now, F*ck Fear said:

You're right no question about it. And I appreciate your post.

I've checked back many times the last few years to see if Axls voice has improved because it has in the past. 

It isn't improving to my ears so it's time.to check out again!

I wish Axl the best, and I'll always have my fingers crossed that things improve, but as of right now, I'm done with current GNR. Even the band is barely a whisper of what they were in 1992.

But this is a GNR forum. It's not a 2023-GNR-forum. You don't have to listen to, or enjoy what they're doing now to be here. You can be like me, and be a fan of their original run up until 1993 only. It's totally fine.

[SoulMonster]

3 minutes ago, allwaystired said:

I have to say, I wouldn't have wanted a camera in my face at my friend's funeral. 

I did actually watch this clip, out of curiosity.

I don't think it's very fair to judge it really, given the occasion, but it is astonishing to me that people would think it sounds ok. 

Before we start the "you're a hater" bullshit, and the studious ignoring of all the positive things people say about GNR in favour of the negative.....it probably isn't the occasion to criticize his voice at all. 

Heartfelt, clearly, at a difficult occasion for any human being, let alone one where he was  asked to sing with a camera in his face while he tries to do it. Did it sound good? Very much not to my ears, but it isn't the place for that sort of debate I don't think. 

So....I guess both sides of the debate are right, all things considered. 

 

There’s no right or wrong in regards to whether you like some singing or not. If you don't like it, that's right for you; if you like it, that's right for you. 

What could be discussed is whether this is the right time and place to critique Axl's singing, and apparently there are different opinions on that too. 

Besides, Axl has never had a typical beautiful, classical voice, at least not the one he has used the most. It's special. For some, immediately appealing, for others more of an acquired taste, for some unpleasant. It is what it is. Some people liked his voice back in the 80s, some in the 90s, some in the 00s, some in the 10s, etc. It has gone through changes and natural deterioration. I am sure many people would prefer the more sombre voice he used here at the funeral to the grating, squealing voice he used so extensively in the 90s, and which so many fans prefer. 

Personally, I think it is awesome how he is still able to sing the songs, in the right key. It's hit and miss but good enough to entertain concert-goers, as evidenced by the mostly praising reviews from the last Australian leg. I mean, considering how challenging many of the songs are, especially in the original key, and how much he has abused his voice. 

As for this performance, I didn't hear much difference to how he has sung this song lately, and I felt it was a moving, sympathetic performance. 

[allwaystired]

Just now, SoulMonster said:

There’s no right or wrong in regards to whether you like some singing or not. If you don't like it, that's right for you; if you like it, that's right for you. 

What could be discussed is whether this is the right time and place to critique Axl's singing, and apparently there are different opinions on that too. 

Besides, Axl has never had a typical beautiful, classical voice, at least not the one he has used the most. It's special. For some, immediately appealing, for others more of an acquired taste, for some unpleasant. It is what it is. Some people liked his voice back in the 80s, some in the 90s, some in the 00s, some in the 10s, etc. It has gone through changes and natural deterioration. I am sure many people would prefer the more sombre voice he used here at the funeral to the grating, squealing voice he used so extensively in the 90s, and which so many fans prefer. 

Personally, I think it is awesome how he is still able to sing the songs, in the right key. It's hit and miss but good enough to entertain concert-goers, as evidenced by the mostly praising reviews from the last Australian leg. I mean, considering how challenging many of the songs are, especially in the original key, and how much he has abused his voice. 

As for this performance, I didn't hear much difference to how he has sung this song lately, and I felt it was a moving, sympathetic performance. 

That's what I mean really- the right place thing. 

I think there is definitely lines between people's personal taste in stuff, and whether someone is actually able to do something......but another time, another place etc. 

[jamillos]

Reading through, I just... don't get the confusion, or should I say surprise. It's surely no different than what we've been used to lately, or is it? Only this time there's no huge PA and mics, so it sounds even weaker, but we've known this before about Axl's middle range and songs like NR, no? Plus the circumstances, yeah, why not, so... what gives? No surprises there for me.

Edited January 24, 2023 by jamillos

[Tom2112]

4 hours ago, AtlasShrugged said:

Maybe it sounded better live and the video wasn't able to pick it up

You catty bitch🤣

[Tom2112]

1 hour ago, jamillos said:

Reading through, I just... don't get the confusion, or should I say surprise. It's surely no different than what we've been used to lately, or is it? Only this time there's no huge PA and mics, so it sounds even weaker, but we've known this before about Axl's middle range and songs like NR, no? Plus the circumstances, yeah, why not, so... what gives? No surprises there for me.

I think it's that people aren't used to hearing Axl without loads of delay/reverb/compression/eq so they think his voice is thicker than it actually is. I think this is a pretty honest performance in many ways. His voice is not in good shape, but it was a beautiful tribute nonetheless!! End of!

[DurhamGirl]

It had obviously been hard to get there, his high anxiety obviously stops him from appearing in public any more except with the band.  He wrote a beautiful rememberance for Lisa and read it out in such a heartfelt manner which was most touching. He then sang a song which she had wished for this  must have been difficult for him in such an emotionally charged environment.  I have a huge respect for him and wish I could give him a cuddle.

[janrichmond]

He did a nice thing 

[grouse]

On 1/23/2023 at 10:47 PM, Tom-Ass said:

This. When I saw this cross my feed last night and I clicked on it. I wanted it to be amazing, but same. He sounded like a dying cat. It wasn't because he was choked up, because this is how he always sounds. It was just more in your face in this performance. The worst part is that I could hear him using his lower register voice (not necessarily baritone) in my head as he was singing, and it would have sounded great. 

Agreed, people praising his vocals hm I do not get that. Sometimes calling a spade a spade is just that. For me no sugarcoating is needed or wanted.  

[Draguns]

7 hours ago, AtlasShrugged said:

Axl didn't die?

It's not the place to pretend he sounds good, either. 

You have absolutely no class. Axl did this out of respect for someone that he cares about.  He didn't do it for you. easy to be a keyboard warrior on here. Much tougher to actually sing a song when you are saddened by a death of someone you care about. Mike Tyson said it best: "Social media made y'all way to[o] comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it."

[DK6]

19 minutes ago, Draguns said:

You have absolutely no class. Axl did this out of respect for someone that he cares about.  He didn't do it for you. easy to be a keyboard warrior on here. Much tougher to actually sing a song when you are saddened by a death of someone you care about. Mike Tyson said it best: "Social media made y'all way to[o] comfortable with disrespecting people and not getting punched in the face for it."

When my dad died I did a eulogy - got up to the stand and I remember the fear thinking "Holy shit my voice isn't going to work!!"

It was the most incredibly difficult thing I've ever had to do - honestly not sure how I got through it - and I was just reading something I'd prepared earlier.

I hate to think what it must be like to sing in that sort of situation.

I thought it was a classy and brave act by Axl - all for a friend. 

It was never about sounding studio quality - he did it for his friend.

[madison]

7 hours ago, axlslash said:

Not to derail the thread, but welcome back! Haven't seen you around in ages!

Hi Axlslash.

Good to see you again. Yes, I haven’t been around the forum in a very long time.

 

But when I saw Lisa Marie’s memorial service, I thought I’d drop by to offer some words about Axl.

 

As you grow older, the losses of friends, acquaintances and family members pile up – with the most difficult ones being people whose lives were cut short unexpectedly and far too soon. Those are the ones that take a piece of you with them when they die, and life wears you down just a little faster after that … …….

 

So, I thought Axl showed tremendous courage and class when he paid tribute to his friend, Lisa Marie, during such a difficult time.  His touching words and emotional rendition of November Rain (to honor her request) were beautiful.  Much respect for him.

[saint_seiya]

wow Madison, nice to see youre still around!

[LA_0013]

Very touching to see him do right by a friend like that. Shows his loyalty to those in his closest circle 

[Billy Cundy]

An eloquent and touching speech from a man who you could tell was humbled to be involved. The Presley family and descendants, for all their wealth and privilege, have seen their fair share of tragedy and loss. It’s as though humans aren’t built to cope in the stratosphere of fame. 
 

I’m sure Axl can empathise. Glad he’s still knocking about! 

 

[Lethalis]

23 hours ago, grouse said:

Agreed, people praising his vocals hm I do not get that. Sometimes calling a spade a spade is just that. For me no sugarcoating is needed or wanted.  

There is a time and place for things... and this just isn't it. In this situation I don't care how Axl sounds... he did great just by being there, being humble etc. I loved seeing the human Axl, not the rockstar.

Also I don't get what the point is anymore about his voice... we all know his voice isn't what it used to be anymore. If Axl could sound different, he would do it in a heartbeat...

It's just what it is now. Although he sounded better in his lower / more natural voice at a concert a while back.

Anyways... bitching about his voice isn't going to change anything. Unless you want him to disappear again. I know I would if I were him. He doesn't need you, or me, or any of us. He doesn't owe us anything.

Edited January 25, 2023 by Lethalis