The "New Album" Thread. Thanks to the long ass thread, I’m going home!

[evilfacelessturtle]

11 hours ago, DeNfr said:

the difference between UYI and CD is the length and the number of songs. The diversity of UYI is spread across two double albums, whereas the diversity of CD is compressed into 14 tracks, making it much more noticeable and intense. what appears as a nice diversity of musical genres on UYI turns out to be a lack of cohesion on CD.

knowing that CD was released in 2008, and considering Axl's sense of time, does 2012 seem so far away to you? I mean, would it be so crazy to imagine that 4 years after the release of CD, Axl thought to himself, well, I'll wait a bit longer, maybe we can talk again, and I'm glad I kept these tracks just in case?

Agree to disagree, because length doesn't matter when very different songs end up side by side regardless. UYI has Don't Cry right next to Perfect Crime. Estranged next to YCBM. What would you say is the difference between lack of cohesion and diversity?

I think IRS and TIL are both perfect Slash tracks. One rocker and one ballad. I think Finck's solo on TIL was heavily inspired by NR and Estranged.

CD having been released and toured (and by 2012 the tour was winding down) is a huge turning point for Axl. It's not as long as the lead up to CD, but it's not about the passage of time, it's about what has happened in that time. I could believe that songs written after CD came out may have been held for Slash, but not those written prior. In retrospect, it's easy to treat the reunion as an inevitability, but even in 2009 or so, Axl was still calling Slash "a cancer".

I think Axl's sense of time is actually a good point, because to him, Slash didn't leave that long ago. If we were to map that onto a typical timeframe, we're talking about if Slash were saving songs for Axl as early as 1999 while writing Ain't Life Grand. It was literally the first album he wrote since the breakup. It's like saving something for an ex after you just started dating a new girl.

[Zeppelin]

8 hours ago, Free Bird said:

Is it better to keep hoarding your music forever? Without Slash’s work ethic we wouldn’t have many great songs now.

No, it’s not better. That’s kinda the whole point. But I’d prefer Slash do his own thing than shit out another crappy album with Myles. But that’s just me. I know others enjoy that uninspired drivel, so power to them.

[Free Bird]

1 hour ago, Zeppelin said:

No, it’s not better. That’s kinda the whole point. But I’d prefer Slash do his own thing than shit out another crappy album with Myles. But that’s just me. I know others enjoy that uninspired drivel, so power to them.

I think a lot of people would prefer Slash doing something without Myles, me included, but even the worst SMKC record has some gems on it. I take that over nothing any day.

[jamillos]

Slash is great, but SMKC bore me, and I can't stand Myles. Besides, haven't they already released like 8 albums since the GNR reunion? 

The meh is strong with this one. 

Edited September 28 by jamillos

[El Guapo]

1 hour ago, jamillos said:

Slash is great, but SMKC bore me, and I can't stand Myles. Bedsides, haven't they already released like 8 albums since the GNR reunion? 

The meh is strong with this one. 

Yes. And the chances of being surprised by yet ANOTHER SMKC albums are basically zero, it's gonna be more of the same uninspired paint by numbers dad rock albums. :/

[JimiRose]

AL and WOF were great albums with SMKC. it's not unusual for bands to release a couple of great albums and then everything become mediocre afterwards. There was maybe 1/2 good songs on living the dream and 4 was just very going through the motions. If we're lucky they might strike gold on 1 or 2 songs again but I highly doubt it now. I'd rather he did it and 1 song out of 12 was great than just took the axl approach of doing nothing for 30 of the past 31 years. 

19 hours ago, Blackstar said:

I doubt new SMKC will be released in 2025 (or at least not until late 2025), because Slash wants to be able to tour it upon release. That's what he said back in May and June:

During an appearance on the May 30 episode of SiriusXM's "Trunk Nation With Eddie Trunk", Slash confirmed that he is planning to enter the studio with his long-running band Slash Featuring Myles Kennedy & The Conspirators later in the year. "We're gonna go record another record after this ['S.E.R.P.E.N.T.' festival] tour is over and then sit on it and wait for the right window to be able to release it so we have a clear window to do a domestic and international tour for 10 months." Slash added later during the chat: "Conspirators will go in the studio in the fall. And then next year is gonna be back with Guns. And then we're gonna figure out exactly when to release the Conspirators record. 'Cause you've got Alter Bridge, you've got all these other things going on,"

https://www.a-4-d.com/t8529-2024-05-30-siriusxm-s-trunk-nation-interview-with-slash

Near the end of his time on Loudwire Nights, Slash gave fans a brief update on what's on the horizon for him past the release of Orgy of the Damned and his solo tour this summer in support of that album. "I'm going into the studio with the Conspirators, getting a new record done and then after that, 2025 is all about Guns N' Roses," he said. "We're trying to get some things going with that. I think there's a small tour in the summertime next year. I heard a rumor about that anyway, so that's going to be focused on that. But prior to that, it's the S.E.R.P.E.N.T. tour, and then the Conspirators."

https://www.a-4-d.com/t8579-2024-06-17-loudwire-nights-interview-slash-celebrates-new-solo-album-says-2025-is-all-about-guns-n-roses

https://blabbermouth.net/news/slash-featuring-myles-kennedy-the-conspirators-to-record-fifth-album-in-november 

Tentative release date in 2025. (not an axl tentative release date which is just hot air blown against the wind)

Edited September 28 by JimiRose

[Blackstar]

9 minutes ago, JimiRose said:

https://blabbermouth.net/news/slash-featuring-myles-kennedy-the-conspirators-to-record-fifth-album-in-november 

Tentative release date in 2025.

That's not based on anything Slash said. I suppose it's just a guess by Blabbermouth, like "since it's being recorded now it has to be released in 2025".

It may be released in 2025, but it will be late in the year, which makes sense because GN'R will be touring earlier in the year, so Slash won't be able to go out on tour with SMKC,

[fabrph5]

22 hours ago, Zeppelin said:

"Hey Slash! It's Myles! I know Axl never wants to work with you to try to create some memorable GNR tunes, so why don't you come over? I have 10-11 generic rock songs for us to shove out again."

we would all take new music over how lazy GnR have become.  Seems to be the trend on this board, slam any normal band that actually acts like a band while pretending we are happy with 20 year old songs pieced together on a computer

Edited September 28 by fabrph5

[Spoon87]

The Cure just did it right. Announced a new record on relatively short notice (release is November 1st) with Robert Smith saying it was probably a mistake talking about this new record as early as 2019, leaving the fans speculating since then.

This can only mean one thing:

Chinese Democracy 2 starts now!

 

[Tom2112]

7 hours ago, JimiRose said:

AL and WOF were great albums with SMKC. it's not unusual for bands to release a couple of great albums and then everything become mediocre afterwards. There was maybe 1/2 good songs on living the dream and 4 was just very going through the motions. If we're lucky they might strike gold on 1 or 2 songs again but I highly doubt it now. I'd rather he did it and 1 song out of 12 was great than just took the axl approach of doing nothing for 30 of the past 31 years. 

https://blabbermouth.net/news/slash-featuring-myles-kennedy-the-conspirators-to-record-fifth-album-in-november 

Tentative release date in 2025. (not an axl tentative release date which is just hot air blown against the wind)

It's less about the albums being utterly forgettable after WOF, and more that we know given a bit more effort SMKC can actually write a good record. But you are correct that's it's not unusual for bands to slip into cruise control. Slash should just want to make great albums again though, and not just some piss poor vehicle to tour on. Same goes for Axl, the singles he has chosen are well below the bar they should be hitting. Subjective? Of course, what isn't subjective is the majority of listeners not engaging with the music beyond first/second listens. And that can be blamed on modern listening habits, but that's a cop out.

[ZoSoRose]

9 hours ago, jamillos said:

Slash is great, but SMKC bore me, and I can't stand Myles. Bedsides, haven't they already released like 8 albums since the GNR reunion? 

The meh is strong with this one. 

SMKC hasn’t been interesting since like 2015 for me

[colonizedmind]

The Cure released their last record within the same weeks that CD came out....now they've just announced their first album in 16 years....

So it can happen! Sounds decent too...

https://superdeluxeedition.com/news/the-cure-songs-of-a-lost-world/

[Zeppelin]

2 hours ago, fabrph5 said:

we would all take new music over how lazy GnR have become.  Seems to be the trend on this board, slam any normal band that actually acts like a band while pretending we are happy with 20 year old songs pieced together on a computer

I don’t like the new GNR tracks either, honestly. It’s about quality over quantity for me. Just because a band releases something normally doesn’t mean I have to like it.

[Zeppelin]

8 hours ago, JimiRose said:

AL and WOF were great albums with SMKC. it's not unusual for bands to release a couple of great albums and then everything become mediocre afterwards. There was maybe 1/2 good songs on living the dream and 4 was just very going through the motions. If we're lucky they might strike gold on 1 or 2 songs again but I highly doubt it now. I'd rather he did it and 1 song out of 12 was great than just took the axl approach of doing nothing for 30 of the past 31 years. 

See, I’d rather neither at this point. For me, I’d rather see Slash go off and do his own thing like he did for his covers album. Grab a competent producer/engineer (good job choosing Clink), which both SMKC and GNR seem to be allergic to these days, and do your own thing. Then, if even half the album is good and the other is a bunch of clunkers, at least I would admire the spirit of doing your own thing outside of these lame band parameters.

[Its Tino]

Living the Dream is underrated IMO

[Axl2002]

Slash Solo Band has so much talent but the results of the last 2 records have been underwelming.

They really need a producer to push them to write better songs before goin into the studio, 

I really like Myles in Alter Bridge but with Slash he seems on autopilot. Boring melodies and his

vocals don`t really shine like with Alter Bridge. The last "4" record the cover artwork says it all 

uninspired and boring. 3-4 good songs the rest forgettable. I hope they can surpise me with the next

release but I dont expect that much.

 

[evilfacelessturtle]

8 hours ago, fabrph5 said:

we would all take new music over how lazy GnR have become.  Seems to be the trend on this board, slam any normal band that actually acts like a band while pretending we are happy with 20 year old songs pieced together on a computer

Perhaps alone is better than anything on LTD or 4. I think it really shows how badly Slash and Axl need each other as a counterweight. Axl to get Slash to be more critical of his own ideas, and Slash to get Axl to release it this century.

[ZoSoRose]

The rest is gravy for me.

We got,

AfD

UYI I

UYI II

Contraband

Chinese Democracy

and a large handful of other pretty good stuff out of these guys. They’re in their 60s. Whatever happens, happens.

[rocknroll41]

1 hour ago, ZoSoRose said:

The rest is gravy for me.

We got,

AfD

UYI I

UYI II

Contraband

Chinese Democracy

and a large handful of other pretty good stuff out of these guys. They’re in their 60s. Whatever happens, happens.

Don’t forget Lies, TSI (underrated), The two Snakepits, the first two SMKCs, slash 2010, orgy of the damned… heck, even live era is underrated imo.

Edited September 29 by rocknroll41

[colonizedmind]

11 hours ago, Its Tino said:

Living the Dream is underrated IMO

Does Ashba have any credits on that one? Or at least a patent? 

[colonizedmind]

8 hours ago, rocknroll41 said:

Don’t forget Lies, TSI (underrated), The two Snakepits, the first two SMKCs, slash 2010, orgy of the damned… heck, even live era is underrated imo.

....And talking of Live Era, there's nothing (you'd think) stopping them doing a sequel to it...

Well, except Axl! That's literally minimum effort on his part, he's done the work....well actually scratch that, he'd want to overdub to the nines!! 

Do we actually think the live versions of "You're Crazy" and "Don't Cry" on the EP's (2021/22) were dubbed? Sounded significantly better and it wasn't just mixing! 

Though if they stick to mostly 2016/17 for the staples and then cherry pick the best newer additions and one off great moments of TWAT etc....

I'm sure we'd all lap up a new Live Era with cool packaging and maybe even a combo Blu Ray / Stream pass the *Around The World With GNR" film. All that BTS stuff they filmed last couple of years, surely make a decent tour doc too...

I'd imagine Disney or Netflix have at least asked the question....

Disney in particular have a lot of music films, like Elton's last date....

[Rovim]

I believe we'll probably get a live dvd of the NITL tour later than sooner, but we'll get it imo

[ZoSoRose]

5 hours ago, Rovim said:

I believe we'll probably get a live dvd of the NITL tour later than sooner, but we'll get it imo

Sadly the ship sailed. It was 8 years ago

[Rovim]

12 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said:

Sadly the ship sailed. It was 8 years ago

it's only docking

[colonizedmind]

1 hour ago, ZoSoRose said:

Sadly the ship sailed. It was 8 years ago

Same with CD but Axl's a pirate with a wonky compass he retrieved from Davey Jones locker....

So it's all Inception as far as he's concerned