JimiRose Posted October 9 Posted October 9 42 minutes ago, DTV88 said: I hear you, I want good new music too! To answer your question @JimiRose, I would say it’s because the “new” songs they’ve released have been let downs for various reasons. Lazy lyrics, keeping 2 seconds of a former members solo on the record, shoddy production or mixing, etc. As long as Axl has the final say, why would we expect anything different moving forward? The only really good song we’ve heard is Monsters and they haven’t even released that one. Everything post 1994 has been a real drag with this band, but the UYI tour had some epic shows that I would love to have in a proper vinyl release. The live albums from the UYI box set are still in regular rotation for me. And the blu-ray is simply awesome! 1 hour ago, Spoon87 said: Being able to listen to more of prime Axl belting out the tunes we all love is kinda cool to me, I don't know. Throw in a Blu-ray to bask in all that glory of back then visually too and I am totally cool with it. But don't we have these already? as in the live versions of multiple UYI shows, some official, some bootleg? I enjoy listening (or rather watching) the old live versions of tracks as Axl could actually sing, but 4/5 versions of you could be mine between 91 - 93 is plenty. the new music isn't as good as the tp tier GnR stuff, but it's new. the old saying - new is always better! 1 Quote
Rovim Posted October 9 Posted October 9 9 minutes ago, JimiRose said: But don't we have these already? as in the live versions of multiple UYI shows, some official, some bootleg? I enjoy listening (or rather watching) the old live versions of tracks as Axl could actually sing, but 4/5 versions of you could be mine between 91 - 93 is plenty. the new music isn't as good as the tp tier GnR stuff, but it's new. the old saying - new is always better! every show and performance is unique imo and there were some spectacular Gn'R shows that we still don't have a quality official version of. 1 Quote
Sweersa Posted October 9 Posted October 9 On 10/8/2024 at 6:33 AM, Italian girl said: do 4 songs in 30 years mean gnr are creative? 19 including Oh My God. 2 2 Quote
guitarpatch Posted October 9 Posted October 9 2 hours ago, JimiRose said: really don't understand people that want slightly different live versions of songs we already have multiple live versions of. How can anyone want that over new music? That depends. Are they collaborating/writing and plan on going to into the studio w the current lineup to record songs from the ground up? Whether new or old. Or is it Slash and Duff putting down parts over material that’s been done decades ago and should prob just be included instead in a Chinese Democracy box set? If it’s the later? I’d rather see some live stuff make its way out. It’s more organic and representative of whichever era of the band was performing instead of Slash and Duff trying to fit parts playing alongside Brain, Finck, etc…arranged songs Just my preference Quote
rocknroll41 Posted October 9 Posted October 9 43 minutes ago, Sweersa said: 19 including Oh My God. 21 if you count The Plague and New Work Tune… Quote
2020_Intensions Posted October 9 Posted October 9 3 hours ago, JimiRose said: really don't understand people that want slightly different live versions of songs we already have multiple live versions of. How can anyone want that over new music? really don't understand people that think this band is capable of writing new music. Like a broken record, but I'll keep saying it, Axl hasn't released an actual new song since 2008, which were already 10 year old songs by that point. Axl can't sing good anymore. I don't want to hear his lazy and flat singing. I want to hear his prime voice that we all became fans of this band because of. Is it really that hard to understand? Or are you just willfully ignorant &/or delusional? 3 Quote
SoulMonster Posted October 9 Posted October 9 3 hours ago, 2020_Intensions said: I'll take official live releases of UYI era over any new music going forward until the band is retired .. How do you know? Quote
SoulMonster Posted October 9 Posted October 9 2 hours ago, DTV88 said: I hear you, I want good new music too! To answer your question @JimiRose, I would say it’s because the “new” songs they’ve released have been let downs for various reasons. Lazy lyrics, keeping 2 seconds of a former members solo on the record, shoddy production or mixing, etc. As long as Axl has the final say, why would we expect anything different moving forward? The only really good song we’ve heard is Monsters and they haven’t even released that one. But you have heard Monsters and if you really like it, it makes little sense to me to prefer alternative live versions of old songs we already have over other new songs on similar quality like Monsters. Still, what the original poster said was that he would prefer old live songs to new songs, which I guess means he must somehow have some magical ability to know what the nre songs would sound like to give out such a blanket statement. Quote
SoulMonster Posted October 9 Posted October 9 6 minutes ago, 2020_Intensions said: really don't understand people that think this band is capable of writing new music. Like a broken record, but I'll keep saying it, Axl hasn't released an actual new song since 2008, which were already 10 year old songs by that point. Axl can't sing good anymore. I don't want to hear his lazy and flat singing. He sang well on Love to Love; it was neither flat or lazy, and it was really brand new vocals. And Slash and Duff are definitely still able to write new music. That being said, I don't think we will ever get to hear entirely new GN'R music, I am more than content with the CD era songs, especially those I haven't heard before. If future singles keep up the quality of The General, Hard Skool, Perhaps and Monsters, then I have a lot to look forward to 4 Quote
DTV88 Posted October 9 Posted October 9 3 minutes ago, SoulMonster said: But you have heard Monsters and if you really like it, it makes little sense to me to prefer alternative live versions of old songs we already have over other new songs on similar quality like Monsters. Still, what the original poster said was that he would prefer old live songs to new songs, which I guess means he must somehow have some magical ability to know what the nre songs would sound like to give out such a blanket statement. Even Monsters isn’t as good as most of the Illusions imo. Much of CD was weak as well. In fact, none of the AFD5 have had any major hits outside of Guns other than the supergroup VR. They came around at the right time, ruled the world for a few years and then faded away into legend. As much fun as the concerts have been, 2016 to present has been a brand on tour. I’ll take more live shows from 86–93 over new music every day and twice on Sundays. 1 Quote
2020_Intensions Posted October 9 Posted October 9 15 minutes ago, SoulMonster said: How do you know? Huh? 1 Quote
SoulMonster Posted October 9 Posted October 9 3 minutes ago, DTV88 said: Even Monsters isn’t as good as most of the Illusions imo. That's certainly an opinion. Still, I would much rather add an "okay" new song to the band's discography than get to hear yet another live version of songs I have heard over and over. Still, not saying you are wrong at all, these are just what we prefer 1 minute ago, 2020_Intensions said: Huh? How do you know that you will not like any future songs more than any of the old songs? Quote
2020_Intensions Posted October 9 Posted October 9 9 minutes ago, SoulMonster said: He sang well on Love to Love; it was neither flat or lazy, and it was really brand new vocals. And Slash and Duff are definitely still able to write new music. That being said, I don't think we will ever get to hear entirely new GN'R music, I am more than content with the CD era songs, especially those I haven't heard before. If future singles keep up the quality of The General, Hard Skool, Perhaps and Monsters, then I have a lot to look forward to Let me be clear, when I say the band isn't capable of writing new music, what I really mean is Axl is not capable or willing to write new [GnR] music. Also, there is nothing "quality" about those singles, but I'm not beating that dead horse ... 1 minute ago, SoulMonster said: How do you know that you will not like any future songs more than any of the old songs? I never said that ..? Quote
Popular Post DannyVinyard Posted October 9 Popular Post Posted October 9 6 minutes ago, DTV88 said: Even Monsters isn’t as good as most of the Illusions imo. It's better than: Right Next Door to Hell, Dust N' Bones, Perfect Crime, You Ain't the First, Bad Obsession, Back Off Bitch, The Garden, Garden of Eden, Bad Apples, Dead Horse, 14 Years, Yesterdays, Get in the Ring, Shotgun Blues, So Fine, and My World. 4 5 2 3 Quote
SoulMonster Posted October 9 Posted October 9 4 minutes ago, 2020_Intensions said: Let me be clear, when I say the band isn't capable of writing new music, what I really mean is Axl is not capable or willing to write new [GnR] music. Also, there is nothing "quality" about those singles, but I'm not beating that dead horse ... I never said that ..? Oh, maybe I misread you. You said, "I'll take official live releases of UYI era over any new music going forward until the band is retired .. " Okay, let me rephrase, how do you know you will enjoy official live releases of UYI era [songs] over any new songs that might come? How can you look into the future and know you will enjoy new songs less than old live versions of UYI songs? Quote
Sweersa Posted October 9 Posted October 9 1 minute ago, 2020_Intensions said: Let me be clear, when I say the band isn't capable of writing new music, what I really mean is Axl is not capable or willing to write new [GnR] music. You're still just guessing. For all we know, Axl has written and recorded several songs after the Chinese Democracy era. In 2014 Axl said they have "written a few new things" so there's something, at least from then. Who knows what he's worked on since, if anything. It could be an album worth of material, it could be one song. It could be no songs. Tommy said Axl recorded vocals every year he was in the band, unless Axl lost that drive with the NITL era, he probably still works on stuff. 6 minutes ago, DannyVinyard said: It's better than: Right Next Door to Hell, Dust N' Bones, Perfect Crime, You Ain't the First, Bad Obsession, Back Off Bitch, The Garden, Garden of Eden, Bad Apples, Dead Horse, 14 Years, Yesterdays, Get in the Ring, Shotgun Blues, So Fine, and My World. Beat me to it! The double album that should have been one, but I'd still take two anyway! 1 Quote
Popular Post 2020_Intensions Posted October 9 Popular Post Posted October 9 13 minutes ago, DannyVinyard said: It's better than: Right Next Door to Hell, Dust N' Bones, Perfect Crime, You Ain't the First, Bad Obsession, Back Off Bitch, The Garden, Garden of Eden, Bad Apples, Dead Horse, 14 Years, Yesterdays, Get in the Ring, Shotgun Blues, So Fine, and My World. This dude listed almost every Izzy song off Illusions lmfao what a shitty opinion. Gross. 12 minutes ago, SoulMonster said: Oh, maybe I misread you. You said, "I'll take official live releases of UYI era over any new music going forward until the band is retired .. " Okay, let me rephrase, how do you know you will enjoy official live releases of UYI era [songs] over any new songs that might come? How can you look into the future and know you will enjoy new songs less than old live versions of UYI songs? You're misunderstanding what I meant. I'm saying I would rather get old live recordings instead of new music. Not that I wouldn't like any new music. 5 Quote
2020_Intensions Posted October 9 Posted October 9 10 minutes ago, Sweersa said: You're still just guessing. For all we know, Axl has written and recorded several songs after the Chinese Democracy era. In 2014 Axl said they have "written a few new things" so there's something, at least from then. Who knows what he's worked on since, if anything. It could be an album worth of material, it could be one song. It could be no songs. Tommy said Axl recorded vocals every year he was in the band, unless Axl lost that drive with the NITL era, he probably still works on stuff. Beat me to it! The double album that should have been one, but I'd still take two anyway! You're very optimistic. I'm not. I don't think Axl has written or recorded anything since 2008. And before you autists correct me, I'm talking about GnR music. Not covers. Not Looney Tunes. Quote
2020_Intensions Posted October 9 Posted October 9 The sad state of the GnR fandom. Soon they'll say Monsters is better than the entire catalogue! 2 Quote
Popular Post Voodoochild Posted October 9 Popular Post Posted October 9 I want the band to release music. If it's old-new or really new, it doesn't matter to me. And if I don't like it, it's all good. But I just want this band to release more stuff. 16 Quote
DannyVinyard Posted October 9 Posted October 9 14 minutes ago, Sweersa said: Beat me to it! The double album that should have been one, but I'd still take two anyway! If it were one album with all the songs I didn't list here, I'd argue that it's the greatest album of all time. Still a ton of great songs on two albums and they both nearly maxed out the time limit on CDs. 1 Quote
Popular Post Sweersa Posted October 9 Popular Post Posted October 9 4 minutes ago, 2020_Intensions said: You're very optimistic. I'm not. I don't think Axl has written or recorded anything since 2008. And before you autists correct me, I'm talking about GnR music. Not covers. Not Looney Tunes. Tommy Stinson left Guns in 2014, and after his time with GN'R he said Axl recorded vocals every year he was in the band. That's at least 6 years of Axl doing vocal work post 2008. 5 Quote
Ratam Posted October 9 Posted October 9 13 hours ago, SoulMonster said: What's baffling about not wanting to be a public celebrity? Look generally Pop Stars like call attention than Rock Stars 1 Quote
Popular Post DannyVinyard Posted October 9 Popular Post Posted October 9 4 minutes ago, 2020_Intensions said: The sad state of the GnR fandom. Soon they'll say Monsters is better than the entire catalogue! It's better than the filler UYI songs I listed, for sure. Monsters is freaking awesome. 5 1 Quote
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