SoulMonster Posted November 1, 2024 Posted November 1, 2024 5 minutes ago, 2020_Intensions said: Now just remember, there are many forum members who religiously believe GnR is sitting on a full & complete album ready to go! They have been sitting on enough completed songs for many years now. Monsters, The General, Hard Skool, Absurd, Perhaps, Atlas Shrugged and more. 1 Quote
janrichmond Posted November 1, 2024 Posted November 1, 2024 Just now, SoulMonster said: They have been sitting on enough completed songs for many years now. Monsters, The General, Hard Skool, Absurd, Perhaps, Atlas Shrugged and more. It seems Axl's idea of completed is very different to most. 3 Quote
SoulMonster Posted November 1, 2024 Posted November 1, 2024 1 hour ago, janrichmond said: It seems Axl's idea of completed is very different to most. Yes. He can tinker and second guess for ages. Still, I don't think the reason they haven't been released was that he didn't feel they were complete as much as people leaving and feeling he had to replace musicians. Quote
Free Bird Posted November 1, 2024 Posted November 1, 2024 5 hours ago, Voodoochild said: And it's a banger live. BTW, I'm still not convinced that Fortus laid down solos for this one. It all sounds pretty similar tone and style-wise. I don’t hear Fortus at all in the studio version when it comes to lead guitar. On live shows instead Fortus does a nice job 2 Quote
2020_Intensions Posted November 1, 2024 Posted November 1, 2024 2 hours ago, SoulMonster said: They have been sitting on enough completed songs for many years now. Monsters, The General, Hard Skool, Absurd, Perhaps, Atlas Shrugged and more. What other unreleased songs do we know are complete & release ready? 1 1 Quote
Voodoochild Posted November 1, 2024 Posted November 1, 2024 31 minutes ago, Free Bird said: I don’t hear Fortus at all in the studio version when it comes to lead guitar. On live shows instead Fortus does a nice job Yeah. I mean, there are maybe a couple seconds of lead while Axl sings some lines, but other than that, I doubt that any of those mini-solos are not Slash. 2 minutes ago, 2020_Intensions said: What other unreleased songs do we know are complete & release ready? Why would we know everything that is complete/ready? We didn't even know that Monsters wasn't The General. But to prove a point: do you believe that Monsters wasn't "ready for release"? 2 Quote
SoulMonster Posted November 1, 2024 Posted November 1, 2024 49 minutes ago, 2020_Intensions said: What other unreleased songs do we know are complete & release ready? None for sure. Quote
ZoSoRose Posted November 1, 2024 Posted November 1, 2024 (edited) 9 hours ago, Voodoochild said: And it's a banger live. BTW, I'm still not convinced that Fortus laid down solos for this one. It all sounds pretty similar tone and style-wise. Pretty sure it’s Slash on the studio record for the leads. Fortus might have done some background stuff Edited November 1, 2024 by ZoSoRose 4 Quote
Spoon87 Posted November 1, 2024 Posted November 1, 2024 3 hours ago, Voodoochild said: But to prove a point: do you believe that Monsters wasn't "ready for release"? Well, was it released? Quote
Voodoochild Posted November 1, 2024 Posted November 1, 2024 41 minutes ago, Spoon87 said: Well, was it released? We're not talking about released tracks, but songs that could be released and were not. Quote
Free Bird Posted November 1, 2024 Posted November 1, 2024 Truth is nobody here knows how many (more or less) finished songs are sitting in the vault. 3 Quote
Voodoochild Posted November 2, 2024 Posted November 2, 2024 3 hours ago, Free Bird said: Truth is nobody here knows how many (more or less) finished songs are sitting in the vault. That was my point actually Quote
Tom2112 Posted November 2, 2024 Posted November 2, 2024 13 hours ago, El Guapo said: It's not a working relationship, it's shit. Well they tour and seem to get on, that in itself is a working relationship. We want it to be a working relationship that bears more fruit than tours and 20yr old re-records, but tbf we have followed them long enough not to have any expectations that we expect to be met. 1 Quote
Tom2112 Posted November 2, 2024 Posted November 2, 2024 9 hours ago, Voodoochild said: Yeah. I mean, there are maybe a couple seconds of lead while Axl sings some lines, but other than that, I doubt that any of those mini-solos are not Slash. Why would we know everything that is complete/ready? We didn't even know that Monsters wasn't The General. But to prove a point: do you believe that Monsters wasn't "ready for release"? Agreed. And if it is Fortus he was doing a great Slash impersonation 2 Quote
Free Bird Posted November 2, 2024 Posted November 2, 2024 5 hours ago, Voodoochild said: That was my point actually Yeah I know. People tend to believe only in things they heard of before. 1 Quote
gavgnr Posted November 2, 2024 Posted November 2, 2024 5 hours ago, Tom2112 said: It's not a working relationship, it's shit. It’s purely a business relationship and one that is very lucrative. Sadly, for the longstanding fans, this means that creative output is practically nil. 1 Quote
Lelex95 Posted November 2, 2024 Posted November 2, 2024 17 hours ago, 2020_Intensions said: Now just remember, there are many forum members who religiously believe GnR is sitting on a full & complete album ready to go! To be fair we already got 4 and know there are at least two more to go, you could consider oh my god and make them seven, it’s not far from an album. 1 Quote
Rovim Posted November 2, 2024 Posted November 2, 2024 5 minutes ago, Lelex95 said: To be fair we already got 4 and know there are at least two more to go, you could consider oh my god and make them seven, it’s not far from an album. what we got post the release of Chinese is very far from a full and consistent album where you get the same production, mix, and musicians who actually were responsible for coming up with the tunes if you compare it to how all Gn'R albums sound like imo. I like the singles, and I accept that Axl does what he wants, but I prefer the full experience of listening to a full cohesive album. we don't know for sure, but my guess is Axl has a shitload of cool instrumentals and probably some finished material, coming up with lyrics and melodies seems to be difficult for him or there is an issue with it maybe. Quote
Spoon87 Posted November 2, 2024 Posted November 2, 2024 12 hours ago, Voodoochild said: We're not talking about released tracks, but songs that could be released and were not. Yeah, "could". Wishful thinking. 1 Quote
Free Bird Posted November 2, 2024 Posted November 2, 2024 3 hours ago, Spoon87 said: Yeah, "could". Wishful thinking. Still not the point. Monsters only proofs that there are finished songs we don’t know of. Songs that weren’t included in the locker leaks. 1 Quote
Coma16 Posted November 2, 2024 Posted November 2, 2024 2 hours ago, Free Bird said: Still not the point. Monsters only proofs that there are finished songs we don’t know of. Songs that weren’t included in the locker leaks. We knew Monsters existed, we just assumed it was The General. The (real) General proves your point though. 1 Quote
Free Bird Posted November 2, 2024 Posted November 2, 2024 1 hour ago, Coma16 said: We knew Monsters existed, we just assumed it was The General. The (real) General proves your point though. Right. Quote
2020_Intensions Posted November 2, 2024 Posted November 2, 2024 22 hours ago, SoulMonster said: None for sure. But you just said "and more" when referring to complete songs they're sitting on .. So tell me .. What songs are they sitting on that we don't know about? 23 hours ago, Voodoochild said: Why would we know everything that is complete/ready? We wouldn't. Soul Monster claims there's songs that are complete that are being sat on. I want to know what songs they are. He seems to know. 1 Quote
SoulMonster Posted November 2, 2024 Posted November 2, 2024 7 minutes ago, 2020_Intensions said: But you just said "and more" when referring to complete songs they're sitting on .. So tell me .. What songs are they sitting on that we don't know about? I dont know exactly which ones, although Quick Song, PRL, State of Grace are not unlikely. But I am very confident there are a few additional songs finished and still unreleased. Quote
Spoon87 Posted November 2, 2024 Posted November 2, 2024 6 hours ago, Free Bird said: Still not the point. Monsters only proofs that there are finished songs we don’t know of. Songs that weren’t included in the locker leaks. Ah I see, nevermind then. Maybe Monsters wasn't released because somebody still wasn't sure it was ready to be released last minute. Quote
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