jamillos Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Free Bird said: Yeah, so keep whining about people whining… Axl is not dead. He’s alive and still active in a band called GNR. Nobody expects new music from scratch because we all know that’s an unrealistic scenario. But as a fan of this band you should be allowed to express your dissatisfaction with how this band operates, especially when someone thought this reunion would led to new music and even more so when the three main characters openly talk about writing and creating new music. 1 hour ago, Rovim said: my point is that we had time to accept shit and since the reunion we had time to kinda get a better sense of what we're probably going to get which is waiting a long time between releases should they happen. really driven the point home that Axl is not going to speed up things just cause Slash and Duff are back. how long does a whiner needs to whine until he or she accepts reality? I only replied cause a poster presented the question of why can't they just write, record, and release a quick 10 songs album. at this point in time it just seems far too late to ask that, I wonder how long it may take some to realize – or look up – the irony in all that. You could take a sentence by sentence and apply it to some, right? "I guess whining about whining some more will always be an enticing option for some." "Accept that this is the way." "My point is we had time to accept shit..." And the best one: "How long does a whiner need to whine until he or she accepts reality?" Exactly bud, so please, for the hundredth time, get it already that you are the perpetual whiner here. This is a forum where people congregate and talk about their favourite ones, good or bad, praise or smack. Please look up the word irony at last, to finally understand what you and a few others do here, and above all, accept that some people will comment on the band also negatively, which is part of fandom that you perceive as whining (while ignoring that the same people are also positive sometimes). It will always be here. This is not HTGTH, although I’d bet you’d love it over there. Therefore, accept it already and stop whining yourself. Set an example! Day after day, the same moronic sentences, the same "I don’t understand why some people..." Yeah, we get it, you don’t understand how long it will take some... blah blah, we got that the first fiftieth time you told us. It’s time for you now for a change to just fucking accept the reality and move on, instead of policing the place like someone pays you for it. Or just put those people on ignore. I could do the same with you, but unlike you, I don’t go around following other posters and telling them what they should or shouldn’t do or say (with this being the exception ofc). I don’t harass others for example because they seemingly unreasonably liked this or that even though it sucked in my opinion. It’s their business, and if I don’t like it, I can just skip their posts. The same applies in the opposite cases. You are clearly the one who keeps having problems with other people’s opinions. Why is this still so hard to understand? You are the chronic complainer here. Read your own sentences above. Read them again and again if needed. Either accept the reality or get a shrink, but in any case, fuck off with your daily ad nauseam bullshit already. Let me guess: you just don’t understand why some people can’t accept... Edited December 2, 2024 by jamillos 3 1 Quote
Rovim Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 2 minutes ago, Free Bird said: It was simply a hypothetical question. We know they won’t. and I was simply saying that if we know that Axl is "like this" we should take that into consideration to not become bitter when shit doesn't get done cause it's not a new thing and wishing Axl was someone else who is prolific is futile. 1 Quote
SoulMonster Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 1 hour ago, Free Bird said: But as a fan of this band you should be allowed to express your dissatisfaction Who is saying it shouldn't be allowed? 1 Quote
SoulMonster Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 26 minutes ago, Free Bird said: Yeah, in other words: This band is full of shit. Why can’t they operate like a normal band? It’s a legit question and as long as they keep touring without releasing music, this question will be appropriate, no matter if some fans doesn’t like this question (or any negative question regarding this band) It's a brilliant question! Is someone here arguing that we shouldn't speculate on the reasons for the poor productivity? I think the discussion was more on why some fans still seem to have unrealistic expectations and whine like little children. 3 Quote
Rovim Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 6 minutes ago, SoulMonster said: It's a brilliant question! Is someone here arguing that we shouldn't speculate on the reasons for the poor productivity? I think the discussion was more on why some fans still seem to have unrealistic expectations and whine like little children. to be specific we know the answer to the question who is the source for this band being unprolific. we don't know the exact reasons for the poor productivity, just speculation and I would definitely like to know for sure what it is and with detail. maybe Axl will write and release an autobipgraphy after Gn'R is done. Quote
Free Bird Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 41 minutes ago, SoulMonster said: It's a brilliant question! Is someone here arguing that we shouldn't speculate on the reasons for the poor productivity? I think the discussion was more on why some fans still seem to have unrealistic expectations and whine like little children. Another one who doesn’t understand that it’s not an expectation anymore at this point. Well done guys. Keep acting like the smartest guys on earth while don’t even understand the simplest things. I’m outta here 😂 Quote
Sweersa Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 2 hours ago, ZoSoRose said: Season 3 was a miss. The last Disney SW project I thought was genuinely good was Andor. And even that was in a sea of blah I feel like every Star Wars TV show has at least a few hours (or a movie's worth) of great Star Wars content. My favorite so far is Obi-Wan Kenobi, but even that had some obvious shortcomings. I liked Ahsoka too, but again, some shortcomings. The last few episodes of most of the series seem really good, at least with those two. Quote
Free Bird Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 1 hour ago, jamillos said: I wonder how long it may take some to realize – or look up – the irony in all that. You could take a sentence by sentence and apply it to some, right? "I guess whining about whining some more will always be an enticing option for some." "Accept that this is the way." "My point is we had time to accept shit..." And the best one: "How long does a whiner need to whine until he or she accepts reality?" Exactly bud, so please, for the hundredth time, get it already that you are the perpetual whiner here. This is a forum where people congregate and talk about their favourite ones, good or bad, praise or smack. Please look up the word irony at last, to finally understand what you and a few others do here, and above all, accept that some people will comment on the band also negatively, which is part of fandom that you perceive as whining (while ignoring that the same people are also positive sometimes). It will always be here. This is not HTGTH, although I’d bet you’d love it over there. Therefore, accept it already and stop whining yourself. Set an example! Day after day, the same moronic sentences, the same "I don’t understand why some people..." Yeah, we get it, you don’t understand how long it will take some... blah blah, we got that the first fiftieth time you told us. It’s time for you now for a change to just fucking accept the reality and move on, instead of policing the place like someone pays you for it. Or just put those people on ignore. I could do the same with you, but unlike you, I don’t go around following other posters and telling them what they should or shouldn’t do or say (with this being the exception ofc). I don’t harass others for example because they seemingly unreasonably liked this or that even though it sucked in my opinion. It’s their business, and if I don’t like it, I can just skip their posts. The same applies in the opposite cases. You are clearly the one who keeps having problems with other people’s opinions. Why is this still so hard to understand? You are the chronic complainer here. Read your own sentences above. Read them again and again if needed. Either accept the reality or get a shrink, but in any case, fuck off with your daily ad nauseam bullshit already. Let me guess: you just don’t understand why some people can’t accept... You’re absolutely right. I tend to let myself getting involved in such stupid arguments more often than not these days. I know it’s annoying but it’s not my intention to annoy other people. 1 Quote
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JAxlMorrison Posted December 2, 2024 Posted December 2, 2024 2 hours ago, SoulMonster said: Who is saying it shouldn't be allowed? I think there’s a difference between dissatisfaction and pointlessly posting “well, I’m not going!” When a new tour is announced. That’s like telling people if you’re deactivating your Twitter. Nobody asked! And nobody cares. 3 Quote
SoulMonster Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 8 hours ago, Free Bird said: Another one who doesn’t understand that it’s not an expectation anymore at this point. But the original comment was a direct response to someone who appeared to not have fully reconciled with the absurde times it takes the band to do anything. So maybe you are talking for yourself and not that other person? Quote
Rovim Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 10 hours ago, Free Bird said: Another one who doesn’t understand that it’s not an expectation anymore at this point. Well done guys. Keep acting like the smartest guys on earth while don’t even understand the simplest things. I’m outta here 😂 maybe next time read the thread more carefully before you reply, just a suggestion. if it wasn't for a post expecting Axl to make an album quickly and release it, I wouldn't have entered this discussion. 1 Quote
Rovim Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 1 hour ago, SoulMonster said: But the original comment was a direct response to someone who appeared to not have fully reconciled with the absurde times it takes the band to do anything. So maybe you are talking for yourself and not that other person? when you don't fully accept the situation, you whine about it, set high expectations, or post bitter posts. all of this is just coping with not getting what you want from a rock band so if someone cries about it again, after all this time, I reserve the right to point that out cause that's annoying to me and it limits the discussion imho. 1 Quote
WhazUp Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 On 12/1/2024 at 11:26 PM, El Guapo said: It's just sad. Just write 10 fucking songs, record and release them. Fucking hell. XD Kinda crazy, from the time of releasing Chinese Democracy to now.... 4 years after Chinese came out, King GIzzard + The Lizard Wizzard formed as a band, and have released 26 studio albums in between then and now Whereas GNR are stuck on adding overdubs to songs that have vocal parts that were recorded in the 90s JFC even just typing this out is making me rethink why I follow GNR so intently, its insane lol 2 Quote
Free Bird Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 2 hours ago, WhazUp said: Kinda crazy, from the time of releasing Chinese Democracy to now.... 4 years after Chinese came out, King GIzzard + The Lizard Wizzard formed as a band, and have released 26 studio albums in between then and now Whereas GNR are stuck on adding overdubs to songs that have vocal parts that were recorded in the 90s JFC even just typing this out is making me rethink why I follow GNR so intently, its insane lol I’m not sure you’re allowed to point that out. Your post might get read by people who‘ll pick it apart because reality annoys them. 4 Quote
DTV88 Posted December 3, 2024 Posted December 3, 2024 5 hours ago, WhazUp said: Kinda crazy, from the time of releasing Chinese Democracy to now.... 4 years after Chinese came out, King GIzzard + The Lizard Wizzard formed as a band, and have released 26 studio albums in between then and now Whereas GNR are stuck on adding overdubs to songs that have vocal parts that were recorded in the 90s JFC even just typing this out is making me rethink why I follow GNR so intently, its insane lol Axl has been taking the piss out of the fan base for years 3 hours ago, Free Bird said: I’m not sure you’re allowed to point that out. Your post might get read by people who‘ll pick it apart because reality annoys them. Honestly, it’s not even worth engaging 1 Quote
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Sausagebrain Posted December 7, 2024 Posted December 7, 2024 On 12/3/2024 at 9:38 AM, WhazUp said: Kinda crazy, from the time of releasing Chinese Democracy to now.... 4 years after Chinese came out, King GIzzard + The Lizard Wizzard formed as a band, and have released 26 studio albums in between then and now Whereas GNR are stuck on adding overdubs to songs that have vocal parts that were recorded in the 90s JFC even just typing this out is making me rethink why I follow GNR so intently, its insane lol Yup. And Buckethead has probably released literally hundreds of albums since then! Admittedly, those are outliers. But most other functioning bands will have released at least a few records since then. For example, the now notoriously not-very-prolific Metallica have put out two all new studio albums, and a few live albums since Chinese Democracy was released. Even the Stones have managed a new album and a covers album in that time! Quote
ChrisW Posted December 8, 2024 Posted December 8, 2024 On 12/2/2024 at 2:19 PM, Rovim said: to be specific we know the answer to the question who is the source for this band being unprolific. we don't know the exact reasons for the poor productivity, just speculation and I would definitely like to know for sure what it is and with detail. maybe Axl will write and release an autobipgraphy after Gn'R is done. He already did, he was talking about it in 1994, doing it with Del James. It doesn't take 30 years to write an autobiography. And by the way, there have been 8 Star Wars movies since Spaghetti Incident came out, not counting tv shows, cartoons or whatever. Watching the One True Trilogy takes about as much time as listening to the complete Guns'n'Roses catalogue. Quote
Rovim Posted December 8, 2024 Posted December 8, 2024 (edited) 4 hours ago, ChrisW said: He already did, he was talking about it in 1994, doing it with Del James. It doesn't take 30 years to write an autobiography. And by the way, there have been 8 Star Wars movies since Spaghetti Incident came out, not counting tv shows, cartoons or whatever. Watching the One True Trilogy takes about as much time as listening to the complete Guns'n'Roses catalogue. I think Axl said it was more accounts of what happened, not really an autobiograpy iirc. what is the point that you're trying to make with the 8 Star Wars movies since Spaghetti? that Axl is not prolific and the Gn'R catalog is small? I agree, but it's not exactly new information is it? all of these are apples to oranges comparisons cause Axl has his own unique issues with releasing music it seems and it's been so long since he worked faster that I don't believe he is ever going to change when it comes to how slowly shit gets released. took him a while to even record one cover and I think that's also an indication that nothing has changed. Edited December 8, 2024 by Rovim Quote
betterman Posted December 9, 2024 Posted December 9, 2024 So what about a new single soon? Maybe they will surprise us with a completely new tune and the reason why they were "releasing"(leaking) Monsters were due to scrap the rest of old material and focus on new material. Both Duff and Tom (Manager) have alluded to new material being written/recorded 1 Quote
Majestic Beast Posted December 11, 2024 Posted December 11, 2024 Chinese Damnocracy leftovers sucks,bring new whole era stuff with classical sound. 2 1 Quote
jimisbatman Posted December 12, 2024 Posted December 12, 2024 On 12/3/2024 at 8:16 AM, ZoSoRose said: Season 3 was a miss. The last Disney SW project I thought was genuinely good was Andor. And even that was in a sea of blah Cool, I'll check it out. On 12/3/2024 at 8:16 AM, ZoSoRose said: Season 3 was a miss. The last Disney SW project I thought was genuinely good was Andor. And even that was in a sea of blah How about mandorlian? Quote
rocknroll41 Posted December 12, 2024 Posted December 12, 2024 43 minutes ago, jimisbatman said: Cool, I'll check it out. How about mandorlian? I think they are talking about Mandalorian. 1 Quote
ZoSoRose Posted December 12, 2024 Posted December 12, 2024 Mando 1 and 2 and Andor are all great Anyways, GNR won’t ever release another record 1 1 Quote
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