Guest Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Stumbled on this https://trademarks.justia.com/900/86/hell-rose-90086609.html HELL ROSE PLACE - Trademark Details Status: 730 - First Extension - Granted Serial Number 90086609 Word Mark HELL ROSE PLACE Status 730 - First Extension - Granted Status Date 2021-09-01 Filing Date 2020-07-31 Mark Drawing 4000 - Standard character mark Typeset Published for Opposition Date 2021-01-05 Attorney Name Jill M. Pietrini Law Office Assigned Location Code M70 Employee Name FRUM MILONE, MARCIE R Statements Goods and Services Entertainment information; entertainment services in the nature of live musical performances; entertainment services in the nature of providing entertainment information regarding musicians, musical sound recordings, music videos, music and licensed merchandise via a website; entertainment services, namely, providing a website featuring non-downloadable audio and video recordings of performances from music and entertainment festivals; entertainment services, namely, providing non-downloadable music and music videos via the internet; music composition services for others; music publishing services; non-downloadable musical sound recordings; production and distribution of musical audio and video recordings; radio entertainment production; record production services; recording studio services; song writing services Classification Information International Class 041 - Education; providing of training; entertainment; sporting and cultural activities. - Education; providing of training; entertainment; sporting and cultural activities. US Class Codes 100, 101, 107 Class Status Code 6 - Active Class Status Date 2020-08-31 Primary Code 041 Current Trademark Owners Party Name Rose, W. Axl Party Type 20 - Owner at Publication Legal Entity Type 01 - Individual Address Please log in with your Justia account to see this address. Trademark Owner History Party Name Rose, W. Axl Party Type 20 - Owner at Publication Legal Entity Type 01 - Individual Address Please log in with your Justia account to see this address. Party Name Rose, W. Axl Party Type 10 - Original Applicant Legal Entity Type 01 - Individual Anyone heard of this before? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 He also holds a seperate trademark for the same name for clothes merch ect which he applied for the same day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Here is his application with obvious things like his contact details redacted https://uspto.report/TM/90086562/APP20200804095409/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucketEgg Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 (edited) nice catch! also noticed, 24 minutes ago, Shacklermyrye said: Status 730 - First Extension - Granted If a trademark doesn't get used, then it may be cancelled, so there's a probable time limit on this delaying. I'll need to follow up with finding an actual source to confirm if the AI is actually correct, but i asked the ChatGPT AI: is there a limit for how long usa trademarks can be extended if not in use? Yes, there is a limit to how long a trademark can be extended in the USA if it is not in use. Under US trademark law, a trademark owner can file a request for a six-month extension of time to file a Statement of Use. This extension request can be filed up to five times, for a total of 36 months (3 years) of extensions. After the 36-month extension period, if the trademark owner is still unable to provide evidence of use of the trademark in commerce, the USPTO may cancel the registration for the trademark. The cancellation process typically involves a legal proceeding to determine whether the trademark is still valid and enforceable. It's important to note that if a trademark is not used in commerce for a period of three consecutive years, it may also be subject to cancellation under the doctrine of "abandonment." Therefore, it is essential to maintain proper use and documentation of a trademark to ensure its validity and enforceability edit: This site cites three years of non-use for a trademark to be considered abandoned: https://www.upcounsel.com/how-long-do-trademarks-last and here too https://www.ny-trademark-lawyer.com/abandonment-and-nonuse-of-a-trademark.html https://h2o.law.harvard.edu/text_blocks/5915 A mark shall be deemed to be “abandoned” if either of the following occurs: (1) When its use has been discontinued with intent not to resume such use. Intent not to resume may be inferred from circumstances. Nonuse for 3 consecutive years shall be prima facie evidence of abandonment. “Use” of a mark means the bona fide use of such mark made in the ordinary course of trade, and not made merely to reserve a right in a mark. Edited March 18, 2023 by BucketEgg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazyman Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Is this a play on his name and Melrose Place? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Crazyman said: Is this a play on his name and Melrose Place? lol I think so yeah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Also he has applied for this but his application is awaiting examination on this one Mark For: W.A.R.™ trademark registration is intended to cover the categories of alcoholic beverages, except beer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian girl Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Oh Axl axl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 Didn't this come up a few years ago too? Something similar for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucketEgg Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 40 minutes ago, Shacklermyrye said: Also he has applied for this but his application is awaiting examination on this one Mark For: W.A.R.™ trademark registration is intended to cover the categories of alcoholic beverages, except beer. that reminds me of the bon jovi liquid i wonder what kind of branding and publicity photos the axl liquid will have Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 1 minute ago, BucketEgg said: bon jovi liquid axl liquid You know how wrong that sounds right? 13 minutes ago, allwaystired said: Didn't this come up a few years ago too? Something similar for sure. There was a trademark for Stay Of Execution but he let it lapse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucketEgg Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Shacklermyrye said: You know how wrong that sounds right? haha you thought about it oh no, by mentioning it in that way, now you've made me think about it too Edited March 18, 2023 by BucketEgg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Shacklermyrye said: You know how wrong that sounds right? There was a trademark for Stay Of Execution but he let it lapse. So it was! Well remembered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 ummm... acording to this site Hell Rose Place is also a Guns N' Roses church in Malibu https://malibu-ca.alluschurches.com/hell-rose-place/ errrr WTF open hours are 6AM to 6PM on Sundays. The reviews are wonderful lol. The address seems to be Axl's house. Tax dodge? Or someone taking the piss, you decide ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ It’s right next door to hell, where they burn and bury new music Added August 05, 2020 by Stoymatic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 It's open today if anyone fancies giving it a call to ask what the hyms are like. I can picture a choir singing Absurd while Dizzy hammers away at his organ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavgnr Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 According to the following site, the application has been extended 4 times. They must be planning something with it https://www.trademarkelite.com/trademark/trademark-detail/90086609/HELL-ROSE-PLACE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, gavgnr said: According to the following site, the application has been extended 4 times. They must be planning something with it https://www.trademarkelite.com/trademark/trademark-detail/90086609/HELL-ROSE-PLACE Iv'e also noticed the legal rep he used Jill Pietrini is the same one Slash used for Snakepit releated stuff way back. The filing was in 2020 around lockdown when we at least know they were doing overdubs on stuff. There does seem to be something to it I think. He would just let it lapse otherwise. I know there are people who like to put there hands over there ears and rock back and forth in a fetal position claiming "there will be no new music" whilst shaking like a jaded Nam vet, and also there are people on the other side of the scale who set them selves up for dissapointment. But this is far more tangible proof there is still intent to do something than anything I have seen. I see the fourth extension was only granted just two and a half weeks ago. Edited March 19, 2023 by Shacklermyrye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavgnr Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 20 minutes ago, Shacklermyrye said: I know there are people who like to put there hands over there ears and rock back and forth in a fetal position claiming "there will be no new music" whilst shaking like a jaded Nam vet This has me lolling 🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon87 Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 Just imagine the new album is called Hell Rose Place. It couldn't get any more cheesy 80s hair metal than this. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 9 minutes ago, Spoon87 said: Just imagine the new album is called Hell Rose Place. It couldn't get any more cheesy 80s hair metal than this. As long as there is one I don't give a French fried titty fuck what it's called Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 I would imagine it's more likely to be around logos or merchandise than anything music related. What is there to trademark around an album? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 Just now, allwaystired said: I would imagine it's more likely to be around logos or merchandise than anything music related. What is there to trademark around an album? The trademark is broken down into a few catogaries one of which is the text of the name (under no specific font) for merchandise. The other is specifically for music recordings, music videos live recordings and apps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gavgnr Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 3 minutes ago, allwaystired said: I would imagine it's more likely to be around logos or merchandise than anything music related. What is there to trademark around an album? The name I guess. The trademark relates to the following… Entertainment information; entertainment services in the nature of live musical performances; entertainment services in the nature of providing entertainment information regarding musicians, musical sound recordings, music videos, music and licensed merchandise via a website; entertainment services, namely, providing a website featuring non-downloadable audio and video recordings of performances from music and entertainment festivals; entertainment services, namely, providing non-downloadable music and music videos via the internet; music composition services for others; music publishing services; non-downloadable musical sound recordings; production and distribution of musical audio and video recordings; radio entertainment production; record production services; recording studio services; song writing services 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 1 minute ago, gavgnr said: The name I guess. The trademark relates to the following… Entertainment information; entertainment services in the nature of live musical performances; entertainment services in the nature of providing entertainment information regarding musicians, musical sound recordings, music videos, music and licensed merchandise via a website; entertainment services, namely, providing a website featuring non-downloadable audio and video recordings of performances from music and entertainment festivals; entertainment services, namely, providing non-downloadable music and music videos via the internet; music composition services for others; music publishing services; non-downloadable musical sound recordings; production and distribution of musical audio and video recordings; radio entertainment production; record production services; recording studio services; song writing services Makes it sound like he wants to start some kind of hub for streaming or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allwaystired Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 36 minutes ago, Shacklermyrye said: The trademark is broken down into a few catogaries one of which is the text of the name (under no specific font) for merchandise. The other is specifically for music recordings, music videos live recordings and apps. Ah I see. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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