Power Trip

[Rovim]

7 minutes ago, kanecrescente said:

It was as good then as it is now. The only thing that may influence that opinion is the highly edited vocals on the London at The O2 pro-shot.

it really wasn't, I attended one of the shows in 2012, was much stronger vocally compared to an average show now, but whatever. Was just a passing comment I've made, not interested in discussing Axl's live vocals again today.

Edited March 31, 2023 by Rovim

[Majestic Beast]

I'm curious which of them will see backstage the concert of the other.

[jamillos]

2 hours ago, Rovim said:

Axl's voice wasn't gone in 2012, that's all I was saying. Just isn't true. 

Sure, but by that logic, his voice was never gone, as long as he was standing on the stage. Maybe just a few off-nights. Why not, see it that way if you like. I guess the OP meant something else, though. 
 

31 minutes ago, Rovim said:

it really wasn't, I attended one of the shows in 2012, was much stronger vocally compared to an average show now, but whatever. Was just a passing comment I've made, not interested in discussing Axl's live vocals again today.

Well you did react to someone, so someone else reacted to you. Can’t blame folks here for that, can we. 

[Rovim]

4 minutes ago, jamillos said:

Sure, but by that logic, his voice was never gone, as long as he was standing on the stage. Maybe just a few off-nights. Why not, see it that way if you like. I guess the OP meant something else, though. 
 

Well you did react to someone, so someone else reacted to you. Can’t blame folks here for that, can we. 

I don't understand your first sentence. Why would I think that as long as Axl stands on the stage, he still got it as a singer? I don't believe he lost his voice before or in 2012. 

I didn't blame anyone for reacting to my reaction.

[Ratam]

7 hours ago, DeNfr said:

cool haircut for his age8

At least you give he some appreciation... 

[KURT19]

 

[adamsapple]

That's not a festival. It's a geriatric convention.

But that's what the industry and the audience get from putting all their attention on American Idols and silver spoon proteges while pissing on actual talent.

Don't stand too close to the stage. Old people smell funny.

 

 

[RnRHOFGNR]

19 minutes ago, adamsapple said:

That's not a festival. It's a geriatric convention.

But that's what the industry and the audience get from putting all their attention on American Idols and silver spoon proteges while pissing on actual talent.

Don't stand too close to the stage. Old people smell funny.

 

 

I think that's a little unfair not gonna try and argue against your opinion though your entitled to it.

But the state of modern music is a little depressing with the lack of rock n roll from the mainstream and the wall to wall coverage of overnight TV pop stars and their touring machines.  I think all the more to appreciate legends like these while they are still alive and playing.

[allwaystired]

Oh there's plenty of great acts out there. Loads. It's just people won't give them the time, money or attention as they want to see the oldies play it safe and do the songs they know. 

In a few years time though, they'll have to start looking around and figuring out what they're missing, as all these bands aren't going to last forever. 

[Cosmo]

41 minutes ago, allwaystired said:

Oh there's plenty of great acts out there. Loads. It's just people won't give them the time, money or attention as they want to see the oldies play it safe and do the songs they know. 

In a few years time though, they'll have to start looking around and figuring out what they're missing, as all these bands aren't going to last forever. 

People are lazy as fuck and want new banda presented to them on a silver platter. 2023 and they still haven’t realized it’s out there, you just gotta search for all these amazing bands releasing awesome music that don’t get a minute of radioplay and media coveragw cause they’re not what sells.

[Bitchisback]

7 hours ago, adamsapple said:

That's not a festival. It's a geriatric convention.

But that's what the industry and the audience get from putting all their attention on American Idols and silver spoon proteges while pissing on actual talent.

Don't stand too close to the stage. Old people smell funny.

 

 

????

 

It's an event that lasts multiple days and if bands are playing full sets you're going to get 5/6 hours of music a night.

[TheSlashrose]

On 3/30/2023 at 12:05 PM, Sweersa said:

Does that include a high-end prostitute? 

Yes, Stormy Daniels

[Tom2112]

16 hours ago, kanecrescente said:

Axl's voice was gone by 2012 unfortunately.

Well the best years were gone, but he was still nailing songs like Jungle/Rocket/better queen and a good batting average with Paradise city in 2012. I think 2012 was a pretty solid year, especially considering what we consider great from 2016-2022

[Tom2112]

8 hours ago, adamsapple said:

That's not a festival. It's a geriatric convention.

But that's what the industry and the audience get from putting all their attention on American Idols and silver spoon proteges while pissing on actual talent.

Don't stand too close to the stage. Old people smell funny.

 

 

No doubt this is an old line up considering the youngest headliner in probably late 50s... well obviously Melissa is in her 30s but she's not exactly the face of GNR 😄

Maybe these shows can be opened by some of the younger crop. But like you're alluding to, the younger acts don't draw the crowds and audiences are not as interested in finding new rock music. Was just listening to Avenged Sevenfold discuss this and the industry standards for what a successful tour line up needs to be, but also the comparison of other genres where a new rap artists goes out and headlines arenas and festivals on a first album, seems too far fetched for rock. What will these promoters do in another 5 years? at least 3 of these bands will have retired, some probably will have died. 

[SlashisGOD]

I don’t know about the opinion that Bruce’s vocals are weak. I just saw them in October and he was nailing everything.

[kanecrescente]

3 hours ago, Tom2112 said:

 a good batting average with Paradise city in 2012.

He couldn't (and still can't) even blow the whistle on time, let alone do that😂

[GNR_RNR]

20 hours ago, kanecrescente said:

It was as good then as it is now. The only thing that may influence that opinion is the highly edited vocals on the London at The O2 pro-shot.

Are there edited vocals on that proshot? 
 

sounds like most any other 2012 show to me, but idk. 

[allwaystired]

14 hours ago, Cosmo said:

People are lazy as fuck and want new banda presented to them on a silver platter. 2023 and they still haven’t realized it’s out there, you just gotta search for all these amazing bands releasing awesome music that don’t get a minute of radioplay and media coveragw cause they’re not what sells.

Couldn't agree more. When you start saying "there's no good music anymore" you know you're past it. 

I think people forget that the likes of GNR were once new and only got popular because people gave them a chance and weren't obsessed with the past. 

[Rovim]

21 minutes ago, allwaystired said:

Couldn't agree more. When you start saying "there's no good music anymore" you know you're past it. 

I think people forget that the likes of GNR were once new and only got popular because people gave them a chance and weren't obsessed with the past. 

I think that while there is a lot of good music that involves guitars nowdays, when it comes to the specific thing Gn'R did and also hard rock in general, there are very few exciting bands imo. 

 

 

[allwaystired]

30 minutes ago, Rovim said:

I think that while there is a lot of good music that involves guitars nowdays, when it comes to the specific thing Gn'R did and also hard rock in general, there are very few exciting bands imo. 

 

 

Well GNR are totally unique in my view, so yeah, there's no-one like them. Best band of all time to me. 

The music world in general has moved on though- so while it could be argued that that 'classic hard rock' sound a lot of the old bands do isn't done as much any more a lot of that is to do with time moving on. Like 80s pop stuff, it sounds a certain way because it's of the time. No-one is really doing that now because it's dated. 

And I think that's what infuriates me so much about GNR- unlike a lot of their peers they don't sound dated, and CD had SO many new ideas and things going on. I'd love to hear more as I think they could really push things forward. 

 

[Rovim]

16 minutes ago, allwaystired said:

Well GNR are totally unique in my view, so yeah, there's no-one like them. Best band of all time to me. 

The music world in general has moved on though- so while it could be argued that that 'classic hard rock' sound a lot of the old bands do isn't done as much any more a lot of that is to do with time moving on. Like 80s pop stuff, it sounds a certain way because it's of the time. No-one is really doing that now because it's dated. 

And I think that's what infuriates me so much about GNR- unlike a lot of their peers they don't sound dated, and CD had SO many new ideas and things going on. I'd love to hear more as I think they could really push things forward. 

 

I think the new cool shit comes from taking inspiration from a number of old musical influences that somehow work and sometimes it's combining different genres as well.

'80's pop stuff and synth with some Queen and it kinda created Lady Gaga for example.

I think there's actually a high demand for a fresh sounding retro thing like Gn'R was or Nirvana. People responded to many Zeppelin copy bands in recent years as well. 

 

Edited April 1, 2023 by Rovim

[allwaystired]

3 hours ago, Rovim said:

I think the new cool shit comes from taking inspiration from a number of old musical influences that somehow work and sometimes it's combining different genres as well.

'80's pop stuff and synth with some Queen and it kinda created Lady Gaga for example.

I think there's actually a high demand for a fresh sounding retro thing like Gn'R was or Nirvana. People responded to many Zeppelin copy bands in recent years as well. 

 

Do you think GNR and Nirvana were retro though? 

I find it difficult to tell as at the time those bands were so exciting to me as something new, but being younger I might not have had the appreciation that they sort of retro sounding. 

[DeNfr]

On 3/30/2023 at 4:11 PM, BucketEgg said:

"convenience fee"

 

 

at least the festival and lineup sounds fun for whoever can go to it

looks like the music industry trying to milk the general public to death before a global banking crisis

[JimiRose]

Spoke to a guy i know that works for iron maiden, said they were only approached last saturday to play power trip aand were offered $5m for the one gig, and if this sells out they will do it again the following weekend with either the same lineup or a very similar one. 

means that someone else also dropped out last minute id imagine. GnR will probably get more than maiden for a US gig. These cunts better put some pyro into their shows, absolutely milking it. 

[Rovim]

11 hours ago, allwaystired said:

Do you think GNR and Nirvana were retro though? 

I find it difficult to tell as at the time those bands were so exciting to me as something new, but being younger I might not have had the appreciation that they sort of retro sounding. 

yes, I do.  When you listen to the older bands which influenced your favorite bands, it becomes easier with time to kinda recognize the influnces of those bands over bands that came later and maybe even go back and find out what influenced those older bands so you can kinda see where the younger bands you like got it from, what was the approach,why it musically worked, how original it is.

I think that it's similar to the culinary world. Picking what ingredients you want to use to make your dish, the quantity of each element you put in your dish, the way you combine it to make it your own, presentation, etc and how your style of cooking gives it your character.

some cooks are better than others, some more original and not everyone have the same interest of pushing it forward as much as they can and to innovate cause there is also a lot to achieve by building on what already exists, to rely heavily on what worked in the past.

AFD sounds like a melting pot of a bunch of different influences that all work perfectly together to create something which is peak retro. 

 

 

Edited April 2, 2023 by Rovim