Guns N' Roses to return to the road in 2025

[JimiRose]

10 minutes ago, SoulMonster said:

Does it matter? 

As I said, with any other band, no. But this is just another thing in a long list of botched releases, announcements, nearly moments etc. how many times can they fuck every single thing up? How many times can we just pass it off as 'Lol it's GnR' before people just say this is insultingly bad.  No word or acknowledgment either from gnr.. as usual... first to charge extortionate prices, last to let anyone know. 

Edited November 27, 2024 by JimiRose

[THELINESMAN]

Some more UK dates would be nice please thanks Axl

[Zeppelin]

Everyone knows about the tour except GNR.

[allwaystired]

We know the dates now, so the announcement probably doesn't matter really.

People fretting about the onsale date.... honestly don't. 

Past experience (when there was more demand to see GNR) says that you will be able to get the best tickets at well below face value nearer the time.

With the way ticket sellers operate now, unless something is going to sell out instantly (i.e. Oasis) it's a fools game to buy tickets on release. You'll end up overpaying. Don't be conned by these ticket sellers and their ways of creating the illusion of false demand. If you want to go.....just wait. 

And for god's sake, don't even consider joining Nightrain just for the presale! 

[themadcaplaughs]

12 minutes ago, Zeppelin said:

Everyone knows about the tour except GNR.

I mean, if you go by Axl's reasons for cancelling the 2001 summer tour, it would not be the first time...

[JimiRose]

39 minutes ago, allwaystired said:

We know the dates now, so the announcement probably doesn't matter really.

People fretting about the onsale date.... honestly don't. 

Past experience (when there was more demand to see GNR) says that you will be able to get the best tickets at well below face value nearer the time.

With the way ticket sellers operate now, unless something is going to sell out instantly (i.e. Oasis) it's a fools game to buy tickets on release. You'll end up overpaying. Don't be conned by these ticket sellers and their ways of creating the illusion of false demand. If you want to go.....just wait. 

And for god's sake, don't even consider joining Nightrain just for the presale! 

agreed. These shows won't sell out so no one should panic buy at top price. i think they'll still be 80-90% full by showtime which obviously will justify the tour

[gonzalo palmese]

Ok i would like to go on a litle controversi here. 

After i uploaded that old flyer with the slogan, saw many people speculating or talking a out an AFD5 TOUR... 

Who here really wants that? 

Me personally i think this: AFD IS top Axl. He Is not on top to that standard. Neither is Steven. See the 5 together again? OF COURSE. But not on stadium tour. To me It would be a good club show as they did troubador. 

You give me a club tour with that, and i buy.

But today for stadium tour i prefer this line up with last year setlist + some additions n New music.

What u say?

[allwaystired]

23 minutes ago, JimiRose said:

agreed. These shows won't sell out so no one should panic buy at top price. i think they'll still be 80-90% full by showtime which obviously will justify the tour

I think quite a few places, in countries they've been many times, will struggle, Wembley Stadium especially, but yeah they'll fill them about 80 per cent with price reductions by show day. 

Ticketmaster will do their usual routine though of pretending certain areas are sold out or unavailable to drive higher priced tickets, and I like to hope people are getting wise to their tricks and won't fall for it as much.....

[evilfacelessturtle]

1 hour ago, JimiRose said:

how many times can they fuck every single thing up? How many times can we just pass it off as 'Lol it's GnR' before people just say this is insultingly bad. 

Just a few more.

https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/e1a90587-f4f3-400a-a9fe-1fc7d8e2c409

 

[Free Bird]

1 hour ago, gonzalo palmese said:

Ok i would like to go on a litle controversi here. 

After i uploaded that old flyer with the slogan, saw many people speculating or talking a out an AFD5 TOUR... 

Who here really wants that? 

Me personally i think this: AFD IS top Axl. He Is not on top to that standard. Neither is Steven. See the 5 together again? OF COURSE. But not on stadium tour. To me It would be a good club show as they did troubador. 

You give me a club tour with that, and i buy.

But today for stadium tour i prefer this line up with last year setlist + some additions n New music.

What u say?

I‘d say Axl is the weak link now and that Adler and Izzy wouldn’t make him sound worse. Other than that I‘d prefer to listen to Stevie and Izzy instead of Frank and Richard because you can’t get nearer to the original sound… it is the original sound even if it wouldn’t be as tight as it once was.

Edited November 27, 2024 by Free Bird

[Sweersa]

1 hour ago, gonzalo palmese said:

Ok i would like to go on a litle controversi here. 

After i uploaded that old flyer with the slogan, saw many people speculating or talking a out an AFD5 TOUR... 

Who here really wants that? 

Me personally i think this: AFD IS top Axl. He Is not on top to that standard. Neither is Steven. See the 5 together again? OF COURSE. But not on stadium tour. To me It would be a good club show as they did troubador. 

You give me a club tour with that, and i buy.

But today for stadium tour i prefer this line up with last year setlist + some additions n New music.

What u say?

I agree, and as I have said before, an AFD 5 thing, if ever, would have to be limited. 

Does Izzy and Steven really bring that much more to the table from a live performance standpoint? All nostalgia aside, I don't think so, but I understand folks disagreeing. 

I believe the most likely occurrence of this would be Steven and Izzy guesting on a few songs during a normal show, as has happened before, just not together. 

[KeyserSoze]

1 hour ago, allwaystired said:

I think quite a few places, in countries they've been many times, will struggle, Wembley Stadium especially, but yeah they'll fill them about 80 per cent with price reductions by show day. 

Ticketmaster will do their usual routine though of pretending certain areas are sold out or unavailable to drive higher priced tickets, and I like to hope people are getting wise to their tricks and won't fall for it as much.....

How much longer do they live between those lines??? Promoters don’t like to have to drop ticket prices… or do any of the things you’re saying. They want the show to sell out from the start 

[Voodoochild]

15 minutes ago, Free Bird said:

I‘d say Axl is the weak link now and that Adler and Izzy wouldn’t make him sound worse. Other than that I‘d prefer to listen to Stevie and Izzy instead of Frank and Richard because you can’t get nearer to the original sound… it is the original sound even if it wouldn’t be as tight as it once was.

I honestly believe that Slash's current sound isn't also on par with the original. Everyone would sound worse IMO. 

[allwaystired]

13 minutes ago, KeyserSoze said:

How much longer do they live between those lines??? Promoters don’t like to have to drop ticket prices… or do any of the things you’re saying. They want the show to sell out from the start 

Obviously they'd PREFER that, but the tickets will be sky high prices and they're probably turning a very healthy profit way before it sells out......plus merchandise cuts etc. 

Frankly, I am amazed at some of the venues (especially Wembley at 95,000 when their last London show was 65,000 and didn't sell out) but Live Nation will know what they're doing. Discounting tickets has happened throughout the last few GNR tours, and they're still booking them into these soulless, dreadful for music stadiums.....so things must be ok for them! 

Edited November 27, 2024 by allwaystired

[Axl_morris]

5 minutes ago, allwaystired said:

Obviously they'd PREFER that, but the tickets will be sky high prices and they're probably turning a very healthy profit way before it sells out......plus merchandise cuts etc. 

Frankly, I am amazed at some of the venues (especially Wembley at 95,000 when their last London show was 65,000 and didn't sell out) but Live Nation will know what they're doing. Discounting tickets has happened throughout the last few GNR tours, and they're still booking them into these soulless, dreadful for music stadiums.....so things must be ok for them! 

Wembley on a Thursday night as well.  

 

 

[Free Bird]

15 minutes ago, Voodoochild said:

I honestly believe that Slash's current sound isn't also on par with the original. Everyone would sound worse IMO. 

Neither his playing nor his sound, that’s true, but imo he’s still amazing and not the main reason why this band doesn’t sound as it once did. To me it’s Axl that sucks the most. And in my opinion Steven and Izzy would be an upgrade to the Frank and Fortus. I also believe that after a short while they‘d have more chemistry than the current line up has.

[Free Bird]

38 minutes ago, Sweersa said:

Does Izzy and Steven really bring that much more to the table from a live performance standpoint?

Sometimes less is more. Having somebody who feels the songs and captures their spirit would be enough. The right drum beat with a sense of swing, a slow rock n roll solo instead of someone who’s shredding all over songs that don’t need that kind of guitar… yeah, that would bring a lot more to a live performance imo than what we’ve got now.

[El Guapo]

What's all that discussion about anyway? Steven and Izzy won't be there, why does anybody even think they will?

Because of the stupid slogan? I don't get it.

[Free Bird]

4 minutes ago, El Guapo said:

What's all that discussion about anyway? Steven and Izzy won't be there, why does anybody even think they will?

Because of the stupid slogan? I don't get it.

Of course they won’t be there but some people questioned their input and I just stated my opinion.

[dgnr]

Always the same with this fucking band. It's laughable, you have to agree 

Even my dad called me saying 'did you see guns n roses are going to Coimbra?'. It's confirmed by every major news outlet here. Apparently only the band isn't aware of it. But what else is new?

I already booked the hotel anyway. The fact that it was going to be announced and then they pulled the plug last minute, it's so GNR and TB. So expected. All the confirmation I needed really 

[Sweersa]

44 minutes ago, Free Bird said:

Sometimes less is more. Having somebody who feels the songs and captures their spirit would be enough. The right drum beat with a sense of swing, a slow rock n roll solo instead of someone who’s shredding all over songs that don’t need that kind of guitar… yeah, that would bring a lot more to a live performance imo than what we’ve got now.

I feel like the current (NITL) lineup is dialed back from a performance intensity standpoint compared to three guitarists of the CD era with Bumble/Buckethead, but I see your point. 

I like how they play CD, and Absurd. I wish Slash did the CD solos a little better, like DJ did. I also wish they played stuff like Shackler's (Fortis would probably need to take the lead on that one) 

[MaskingApathy]

3 hours ago, gonzalo palmese said:

Ok i would like to go on a litle controversi here. 

After i uploaded that old flyer with the slogan, saw many people speculating or talking a out an AFD5 TOUR... 

Who here really wants that? 

Me personally i think this: AFD IS top Axl. He Is not on top to that standard. Neither is Steven. See the 5 together again? OF COURSE. But not on stadium tour. To me It would be a good club show as they did troubador. 

You give me a club tour with that, and i buy.

But today for stadium tour i prefer this line up with last year setlist + some additions n New music.

What u say?

I agree. Yeah for a club show or two it would be cool, like what Motley Crue just did with the shows in LA at the whisky and troubadour. But otherwise it would not sound so good. And that's if Izzy even shows up to begin with.

1 hour ago, Voodoochild said:

I honestly believe that Slash's current sound isn't also on par with the original. Everyone would sound worse IMO. 

Yes 100%. His tone was ripping for the first couple years of NITL then after 2021 he turned it down. If you listen to that IEM recording from Paris 2023 it's noticeably different. And the magnatone amps sound different too than the jubilees.

[AxlRoseCDII]

Can someone summarize what has happened since the tour announcement? Haven’t had time to read the thread. 

[jamillos]

1 minute ago, AxlRoseCDII said:

Can someone summarize what has happened since the tour announcement? Haven’t had time to read the thread. 

That's the thing - there's no tour announcement. 

[evilfacelessturtle]

3 minutes ago, MaskingApathy said:

I agree. Yeah for a club show or two it would be cool, like what Motley Crue just did with the shows in LA at the whisky and troubadour. But otherwise it would not sound so good. And that's if Izzy even shows up to begin with.

Yes 100%. His tone was ripping for the first couple years of NITL then after 2021 he turned it down. If you listen to that IEM recording from Paris 2023 it's noticeably different. And the magnatone amps sound different too than the jubilees.

His tone hasn't been the same since 2001. He started turning down the gain after that and is way, way too clean these days.