Guns N' Roses to return to the road in 2025

[El Guapo]

If it was a "new show", meaning new songs, a new album to be released around the tour or something, they surely would promote it like that.

Instead, we're getting that stupid slogan from the club days.

If it wasn't GnR one could guess a surprise release is coming, but...it IS Gnr, so same old shit.

[Izzy squire]

The tour's name is the same that old flyer.

The flyer is a show...20/12/ friday...

This year, 20/12 is friday...

Friday is the day of the news albums....

[PatrickS77]

2 hours ago, Petr said:

Last time gnr played in prague, green day was playing in hradec kralove at the rock for people festival on the same day. Seemed also strange business wise

You have to wonder why. It's also not in the fan's best interest. Not that anyone of them gives fuck. 😉

[allwaystired]

11 hours ago, PatrickS77 said:

I'm sure there's a lot of people, who would go see both and have to make a choice/won't get to make a choice, because they already have Springsteen tickets (which is the sold out postponed concert from last year). I would be fucked, would I live in the vicinity, as I definitely would want to see both. And at this time and stage of his career, Springsteen would be it for me. It's 2 different cities, 115 km apart, so the authorities would have no reason to not allow it.

I'm a Springsteen fan too, but I have to say, I think he's gone off quite a bit recently, pretty much since he got into bed with Ticketmaster and all the controversy that brought him. He handled it so badly too, with the "fans have had it good for too long now" comment. Live shows seem not as good too- setlist nowhere near what it was in terms of variety, that sort of thing. Just gone right off him.....so for me I'd see GNR over him currently. 

 

2 hours ago, El Guapo said:

If it was a "new show", meaning new songs, a new album to be released around the tour or something, they surely would promote it like that.

Instead, we're getting that stupid slogan from the club days.

If it wasn't GnR one could guess a surprise release is coming, but...it IS Gnr, so same old shit.

It could only really be a 'new show' if they had significant new material to play. Otherwise it's just slight variations of the very small back catalogue. There's not much they can actually change really! 

[SoulMonster]

12 hours ago, El Guapo said:

If it was a "new show", meaning new songs, a new album to be released around the tour or something, they surely would promote it like that.

Instead, we're getting that stupid slogan from the club days.

Yeah, but no one around here actually thought there was even a slim chance a new album would be released in connection to the touring, were there? We have all wised up ages ago and weren't disappointed this isn't happening, right?

[Axl_morris]

On 11/28/2024 at 7:12 PM, Coma16 said:

I have it on good word of authority that announcement is coming on Saturday.

Not such a good word of authority now

 

[colonizedmind]

19 hours ago, Tom2112 said:

It's not a bad assessment. Gnr were stadiums only initially, now they play some stadiums, some arenas already that shows a decline in pulling power.

"It's a different show" I mean you could look at it as a new show, but you could equally look at it as the the bare minimum changes in order for the tour to still be viable. The main structure of the set remains intact - ISE opens, Slash solo/Sweet child, Nightrain before encore Paradise close. Same stage show.  Changing the stage, changing the beginning middle end and that would be a new show. The last tour was an improvement from previous years though. 

Actually it's not the same show at all, at least from a production point of view....since post COVID, for some reason, all pyro has gone and they have significantly reduced the visual experience. Cutting costs for less gross returns? 

I hope at the very least, this next tour, brings back some of the explosiveness the 2016/17 tours had with stage craft! (Relatively to what you'd expect from a rock band...)

[Coma16]

34 minutes ago, Axl_morris said:

Not such a good word of authority now

 

It's not even morning yet in Costa Rica. Also life may have gotten in the way

[allwaystired]

8 hours ago, SoulMonster said:

Yeah, but no one around here actually thought there was even a slim chance a new album would be released in connection to the touring, were there? We have all wised up ages ago and weren't disappointed this isn't happening, right?

We live in a world where people thought them using the AFD cross on merch in 2017 meant the AFD 5 were back, that the 'surprise gift' with the laundry bag would be new music and, most insanely, that a novelty music box playing a few seconds of tinkly music would contain new music! 

So....

[Spoon87]

4 hours ago, Axl_morris said:

Not such a good word of authority now

 

Who would've thought?!?!

[GnR Chris]

I applaud the hopium displayed in this forum by some folks, even after all this time. 

There won’t be a surprise album surrounding this tour. There will instead be “Atlas Shrugged” or most likely “Monsters” released the same week they play it live sometime in July or September 2025. The best we can hope for is they will have a video to accompany it, and promote it at least as much as “Perhaps.” But I doubt they even do that.

There has been no indication the last decade that this band have been in studio to lay down Guns tracks other than Slash and Duff working on old stuff from the Chinese era. The only new Axl vocals remains the Bugs Bunny cartoon and the UFO cover. That’s not a matter of fact. That’s just what I think. And I’d fuckin’ loooove to be wrong. 

[Tom2112]

5 hours ago, colonizedmind said:

Actually it's not the same show at all, at least from a production point of view....since post COVID, for some reason, all pyro has gone and they have significantly reduced the visual experience. Cutting costs for less gross returns? 

I hope at the very least, this next tour, brings back some of the explosiveness the 2016/17 tours had with stage craft! (Relatively to what you'd expect from a rock band...)

Not the same stage show at all is a stretch though, but they cut it back for sure. I was more talking about the actual stage itself, they're been using variances of it since 2016. 

Maybe they wanted to let the music do the talking? But I think you hit the nail on the head with profit margins, pyro costs a lot.

I think it's time for a complete overhaul

[gnfr20179]

1 hour ago, GnR Chris said:

I applaud the hopium displayed in this forum by some folks, even after all this time. 

There won’t be a surprise album surrounding this tour. There will instead be “Atlas Shrugged” or most likely “Monsters” released the same week they play it live sometime in July or September 2025. The best we can hope for is they will have a video to accompany it, and promote it at least as much as “Perhaps.” But I doubt they even do that.

There has been no indication the last decade that this band have been in studio to lay down Guns tracks other than Slash and Duff working on old stuff from the Chinese era. The only new Axl vocals remains the Bugs Bunny cartoon and the UFO cover. That’s not a matter of fact. That’s just what I think. And I’d fuckin’ loooove to be wrong. 

Funny, I had a dream not too long ago that they dropped “Atlas Shrugged” out of nowhere… no build up, or anything. Just posted “ATLAS SHRUGGED OUT NOW!” and viola, it was streaming… come to think of it, at this rate, I wouldn’t mind them doing it just like that at all. 

[ZoSoRose]

NITL had a great stage show imo. Perfect callback to the UYI tour with tons of cool screens, ramps, lights, and effects.

Everything since 2020 has been way stripped back. GNR can be underrated for stage shows imo, I thought the 2010 and 2011 arena configurations were also really cool. I’d be in favor of something a little more elaborate but I doubt it considering their 2023 stage was simple and that was a huge tour

[Gordon Comstock]

2 hours ago, GnR Chris said:

There will instead be “Atlas Shrugged” or most likely “Monsters” released the same week they play it live sometime in July or September 2025. The best we can hope for is they will have a video to accompany it, and promote it at least as much as “Perhaps.” But I doubt they even do that.

 

Even this is quite a stretch. Yes I know Monsters is done and we've heard it and therefore people expect it to be released with the next tour, but it's been done for 5 fucking years and they've done nothing with it. There's a very good chance if we hear any music next year, it's just Children Of The Revolution.

[DTV88]

Whatever happened with that music box? 

[Gordon Comstock]

1 hour ago, Tom2112 said:

I think it's time for a complete overhaul

 

With their limited catalogue, the best way to overhaul the show would be "An Evening With GNR" kind of thing where they break the show into 3 sections. Open with 12~ deeper cuts and some of the NITL singles, take an intermission, do 6-8 acoustic tracks, intermission, end the show with 10 hits and fan-favourites (Mr. Brownstone, Nightrain etc would be part of that set). Bring back the pyro for at least half a dozen songs, too.

Obviously they won't do that, but that would be as close to a "new show" as they could get at this point.

[allwaystired]

9 minutes ago, DTV88 said:

Whatever happened with that music box? 

Never sent out to people I don't think.

Got mentioned on here a few weeks ago that nobody had received it, and there was "a delay".

2024 Nightrain package sent out in 2025 (if ever!) ....sounds about right! 

[ZoSoRose]

The thing is to me, there’s not much more they can do for an “all new show”. They could make a cooler stage show, but in all honesty, the setlists are pretty great. They’ve already done most classic hits and deep cuts we have wanted. Bringing back the small handful left like Breakdown, Don’t Damn Me, Bad Apples, Right Nextdoor to Hell, etc would be cool, but we have already gotten all the A- list songs played since 2016. I’d welcome all that, of course, but it wouldn’t make waves.

The biggest thing would be new music, but even that would just be for a handful of people on here. Deep cuts and new music wouldn’t move tickets a ton. Most audience- goers would wait in between the Comas, Chineses, Hard Skools, and Reckless Life’s for the Sweet Chils and November Rains. 

As a diehard fan, I’d love for some things to be changed like an acoustic set, new songs, and more dusted off old songs. I really liked the 2023 Fenway show because it did feel a lot fresher than 2021, but most people probably wouldn’t notice or care. For us, 2023 was probably the “all new show” with the dusted off old songs, Chinese deep cuts, and all 4 of the new songs. Only thing missing was a different opening song. We would have freaked out for 4 new songs even as far back as 2010. It sucks, but that is how it is, since Axl is done creatively. 

Live, the main thing is Axl’s voice and how they deal with that, anyways. We are almost certainly getting at lease 2 more songs, but I will happily take 4- 6 more songs if that’s it in the tank. Hopefully they come out quicker than they have been.

I am surprised they haven’t done the “Appetite for Destruction: Played every night” gimmick as a new show and angle.

That would move tickets and generate a lot of casual hype. Sure, they do most of the record every show, anyways, but getting the whole thing in order is always a fun novelty. That would be a hit. It always works, like The Wall, Moving Pictures, The Joshua Tree, Hotel California, etc.

Edited November 30 by ZoSoRose

[RoryGallagher86]

On 11/28/2024 at 12:32 PM, PatrickS77 said:

Does it matter? Prices won't be/doesn't have to be the same this year. Last year I paid 38 900 HUF for FOS.

"Does it matter?". Nothing matters ultimately, particularly with your negative outlook! 

[Tom2112]

9 hours ago, Gordon Comstock said:

 

With their limited catalogue, the best way to overhaul the show would be "An Evening With GNR" kind of thing where they break the show into 3 sections. Open with 12~ deeper cuts and some of the NITL singles, take an intermission, do 6-8 acoustic tracks, intermission, end the show with 10 hits and fan-favourites (Mr. Brownstone, Nightrain etc would be part of that set). Bring back the pyro for at least half a dozen songs, too.

Obviously they won't do that, but that would be as close to a "new show" as they could get at this point.

The more pyro etc. the more the show has to remain in a certain sequence for safety (and other things) reasons. So I'd say hell yeah to some pyro, but I would like for them to be going out and flipping the set on its head. I don't care about them putting more deep cuts in the set it's already pretty in the weeds. Exception being Izzy turning up in which case Dust N Bones / 14 years.

What would excite me as a fan would be where they have their 50 songs to choose from (or however many they can play) and they go out and open with a different songs every night, there are more songs in the GNR arsenal that can open and close their shows. Adopt that Pearl Jam / RHCP mentality where you aren't a slave to the production and can basically go out and do radically different shows from night to night.

Obviously the limited catalogue is an issue but I'd actually be pretty happy with the current set on its head. The other issue is Axl now liking to sing a bunch of lower range material up front in the set.

[gnrjanus]

Apparently Ac/dc will announce a NA tour tomorrow. 

 

So might the announcement be a co-headlinimg tour with gnr?

[JAxlMorrison]

I have a really weird feeling that they WILL include/announce a new album release to coincide with this tour…

 

But knowing them, it’s a summer tour, and the record won’t come out til November. Maybe they’ll be stateside by then. 

[Lelex95]

13 hours ago, Gordon Comstock said:

 

Even this is quite a stretch. Yes I know Monsters is done and we've heard it and therefore people expect it to be released with the next tour, but it's been done for 5 fucking years and they've done nothing with it. There's a very good chance if we hear any music next year, it's just Children Of The Revolution.

To be fair monsters was done for four years before the published it so that isn’t really something I’m worried about

[chinese stew]

I just heard Paradise City on the radio.....It's happening!!!