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12 hours ago, JimiRose said:

I guess the question would be, do duff and slash have the power to say 'no'. When Axl or TB decide its time to tour, and start booking dates, would slash say no and it be accepted? I think it's different Axl saying 'what do you think of this slash?' and slash going along with it, but would he say 'no axl you are wrong we are not doing that' - i dont think he would, so really any power or control he has is for show. 

Does TB even book the tours?

They're listed by ITB as one of their artists (as is Duff), with Rod MacSween listed as their agent and Karen Fossey also listed.

https://www.itb.co.uk/artists-page

Team Brazil is not listed.

Also, none of this is new or a recent change. I've pointed it out before.

I think TB's influence on the touring side of the business is wildly overstated on this forum.

Logic dictates that they look after Axl's affairs and lesser things like website/social media and immediate staff, but the band as a business entity has established industry management.

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2 hours ago, jacdaniel said:

2006 shirt… you disappoint Bucket :lol:

I do have a few of those I bust out from time to time! My favorite one is the silver star with the bullet holes in it. 2001-2006 really had the best Guns logos, IMO. I think the CD-era logo SUCKS. Never liked it. Never liked the bike cover either. Wish that was Cover B or C instead. The grenade and red hand are many times cooler. They would certainly get my attention seeing a display with those at the store vs the boring bike. 

Goes along with the age old feeling of the album should have dropped pre Bumblefoot. 

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2 hours ago, DoMw94 said:

Does TB even book the tours?

They're listed by ITB as one of their artists (as is Duff), with Rod MacSween listed as their agent and Karen Fossey also listed.

https://www.itb.co.uk/artists-page

Team Brazil is not listed.

Also, none of this is new or a recent change. I've pointed it out before.

I think TB's influence on the touring side of the business is wildly overstated on this forum.

Logic dictates that they look after Axl's affairs and lesser things like website/social media and immediate staff, but the band as a business entity has established industry management.

Good point. The booking agency work (especially routing something as epic and ongoing as NITLT) is likely handled logistically by industry professionals.
Even their social media is managed. 
 

Of course those are the only areas to make real money in, and unfortunately not new music. 

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On 6/10/2024 at 11:39 AM, JimiRose said:

I guess the question would be, do duff and slash have the power to say 'no'. When Axl or TB decide its time to tour, and start booking dates, would slash say no and it be accepted? I think it's different Axl saying 'what do you think of this slash?' and slash going along with it, but would he say 'no axl you are wrong we are not doing that' - i dont think he would, so really any power or control he has is for show. 

I don’t know why you bring TB in this topic. TB are Axl’s management. Slash has its own and Duff has its own management.

If there’s an dispute Slash’s gonna deal with Axl directly. TB has nothing to say to Slash or Duff and they are surely not placed over them in terms of buisness

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20 hours ago, DoMw94 said:

Does TB even book the tours?

They're listed by ITB as one of their artists (as is Duff), with Rod MacSween listed as their agent and Karen Fossey also listed.

https://www.itb.co.uk/artists-page

Team Brazil is not listed.

Also, none of this is new or a recent change. I've pointed it out before.

I think TB's influence on the touring side of the business is wildly overstated on this forum.

Logic dictates that they look after Axl's affairs and lesser things like website/social media and immediate staff, but the band as a business entity has established industry management.

Well since touring works pretty much like clockwork and maybe the only thing that does...figures

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21 hours ago, Free Bird said:

I don’t know why you bring TB in this topic. TB are Axl’s management. Slash has its own and Duff has its own management.

If there’s an dispute Slash’s gonna deal with Axl directly. TB has nothing to say to Slash or Duff and they are surely not placed over them in terms of buisness

TB seem to be the only management that are constantly on the tours at every event etc. Duff an Slash have their own individual management but TB still 'manage' as loosely as i can possibly say that word, GnR and Axl. 

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52 minutes ago, JimiRose said:

TB seem to be the only management that are constantly on the tours at every event etc. Duff an Slash have their own individual management but TB still 'manage' as loosely as i can possibly say that word, GnR and Axl. 

They do what they do in regard to Axl but I doubt they have a say over Slash or Duff. Basically they have nothing to say at all. They do things for Axl. Those things Axl doesn’t want to do. + they are allowed to milk the cow with toy trucks and baby books. 
 

That’s what I think at least.

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22 hours ago, Free Bird said:

Я не знаю, почему вы упомянули туберкулез в этой теме. TB – это менеджмент Эксла. У Слэша свой, а у Даффа свой менеджмент.

Если возникнет спор, Слэш разберется напрямую с Экслом. ТБ нечего сказать Слэшу или Даффу, и они, конечно, не ставят их выше с точки зрения бизнеса.

I can be subjective, but I came across shorts on YouTube, there was a fragment of Slash's solo and Beta was sitting on her chair at the edge of the stage and watching him playing. She gave Slash such a stern, indignant look from the hostess of this scene. We all understand that Beta is not a sweet kind aunt, but a grasping predator who brainwashes Axl in all directions day after day. I think her main task is not to let Axl have a close attachment with anyone, otherwise she will lose control over him. The usual intrigues, slander, etc. Therefore, there is no personal relationship, and Slash will not deal directly with Axl, he will not be given such an opportunity, I think no one has direct access to Axl, and if there is no relationship, then there is no band. Yes, there is tour management and so on, but Beta has power over Axl's mind.

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5 hours ago, lunastar said:

I can be subjective, but I came across shorts on YouTube, there was a fragment of Slash's solo and Beta was sitting on her chair at the edge of the stage and watching him playing. She gave Slash such a stern, indignant look from the hostess of this scene. We all understand that Beta is not a sweet kind aunt, but a grasping predator who brainwashes Axl in all directions day after day. I think her main task is not to let Axl have a close attachment with anyone, otherwise she will lose control over him. The usual intrigues, slander, etc. Therefore, there is no personal relationship, and Slash will not deal directly with Axl, he will not be given such an opportunity, I think no one has direct access to Axl, and if there is no relationship, then there is no band. Yes, there is tour management and so on, but Beta has power over Axl's mind.

I don’t believe that. No other management managed Axl or the band that long. Not because they make a good job or because of their power. But because they do what Axl wants. 

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