Guns N'Roses music videos that confuse you? 😵‍💫

[Karice]

Since I Don't Have You is the MOST confusing Guns N'Roses music video EVER. 😵‍💫 It looks like a weird  fever dream. I don't get why there isn't a scene where Axl is lying in bed, sweating and sleeping and a thermometer on his bedside reads 102 and then the main part of SIDHY happens and we would know that Axl is having a fever dream. 💡🤣🤭🤔

 

How exactly did Axl's Bride die in November Rain? 🤔 It has been implied that she got trampled to death by the guests who fled in a panic when the sudden rain happened, but it's also been implied that she died by a gunshot wound to the head(Axl passes a gun shop in  his dream and in her casket her face is mirrored a common technique for gunshot victims ) Did Duff "steal," the rings? Because Slash the Ring bearer/Best Man starts looking for the rings in a slight panic and Duff offers him some rings with a sneaky smile on his face like 😏 I wonder if Duff "Stole," the rings as a mischievous prank. 🤣🤭🤔

 

In the Welcome To The Jungle music video, Axl puts his suitcase/Luggage on the floor after getting off the bus, which is a surefire way to get it stolen. 😵‍💫 MOST people will NOT do this. I never got why Axl gets electrocuted. 😱😳😵‍💫 It took me YEARS to realize that the Axl sitting in a chair and silently screaming is actually sitting in an electric chair and being electrocuted! 😵‍💫😱😳 I wonder why FOUR different Axls show up in the Welcome To The Jungle music video and all look like different people. The Small Town Axl who gets off the bus, the Rockstar Axl who is singing Welcome To The Jungle, the pretty Rockstar Axl who is watching TV, and the Axl being electrocuted happen to look like FOUR different people. 🤔

[Tomek1985]

The Rhythm of the Night

[Rindmelon]

4 hours ago, Karice said:

Since I Don't Have You is the MOST confusing Guns N'Roses music video EVER. 😵‍💫 It looks like a weird  fever dream. I don't get why there isn't a scene where Axl is lying in bed, sweating and sleeping and a thermometer on his bedside reads 102 and then the main part of SIDHY happens and we would know that Axl is having a fever dream. 💡🤣🤭🤔

 

Pretty sure everybody involved in this video was on cocaine which may go some way to explain it

 

4 hours ago, Karice said:

How exactly did Axl's Bride die in November Rain? 🤔 It has been implied that she got trampled to death by the guests who fled in a panic when the sudden rain happened, but it's also been implied that she died by a gunshot wound to the head(Axl passes a gun shop in  his dream and in her casket her face is mirrored a common technique for gunshot victims ) Did Duff "steal," the rings? Because Slash the Ring bearer/Best Man starts looking for the rings in a slight panic and Duff offers him some rings with a sneaky smile on his face like 😏 I wonder if Duff "Stole," the rings as a mischievous prank. 🤣🤭🤔

 

I never thought of it as a Simba in the Lion King type situation. There is a chance that when it started raining heavy she got swimmers ear and became discombobulated and tripped and hit her head on the cake or something

4 hours ago, Karice said:

 

In the Welcome To The Jungle music video, Axl puts his suitcase/Luggage on the floor after getting off the bus, which is a surefire way to get it stolen. 😵‍💫 MOST people will NOT do this. I never got why Axl gets electrocuted. 😱😳😵‍💫 It took me YEARS to realize that the Axl sitting in a chair and silently screaming is actually sitting in an electric chair and being electrocuted! 😵‍💫😱😳 I wonder why FOUR different Axls show up in the Welcome To The Jungle music video and all look like different people. The Small Town Axl who gets off the bus, the Rockstar Axl who is singing Welcome To The Jungle, the pretty Rockstar Axl who is watching TV, and the Axl being electrocuted happen to look like FOUR different people. 🤔

Axl sings in 3 or 4 different voices, i believe the one people think of as rasp was the one he used to call his demon voice. There is an old interview from way back somewhere where i think he mentions this. Perhaps the 4 Axl's are there to represent the different voices/ side of personalities. The electrocution stuff who knows. There was a time where shock therapy was administered to those deemed to be mentally unsound maybe its alluding to that

[gunsnchalupas]

In the November Rain video, Axl makes the dubious claim that Slash plagiarized one of his most iconic solos from Axl, despite the fact that Axl had yet to learn guitar. I am usually team Axl, but as a father and a husband I often have to be a peace keeper between multiple large personalities, so I try to see things both ways. I think that Slash lying about Axl in the media during the mid 90s could have been a way to mask the hurt he felt from Axl taking credit for his portions of the songwriting.

Really, the entire music video shows too much of Axl's hand, as far as how he viewed Slash. You have to understand that the video is an Axl dream sequence. We know it is a dream sequence because there are no cars parked in or around a church. Even a multi-millionaire would have to have some form of transportation to and from a church. Axl was rich at the time, but he wasn't Dubai Oil Prince rich. He could not have built a Church in a secluded area of the desert, with nothing around, and flown in his friends and family to prevent the need for cars or facilities in or around the church. Not to mention, there was no hint that the wedding had any Islamic influence. It looked mostly catholic, or maybe agnostic. Even if you think this was creative liberties, the final hint that it is all a dream would be Slash playing the solo and getting electric tones despite his guitar not being plugged into an amplifier.

Let's look at the facts. Axl Rose created a music video, where he exists in a universe where the song November Rain doesn't yet exist, and he wrote himself to dream Slash playing the exact solo Slash wrote for the song. That is similar to Axl saying, Slash is a dream thief.

Not only that, he dreamed that Slash was a careless asshole. Not only did Slash almost ruin the wedding by being too drunk and stoned to manage the one responsibility Axl gave him (the ring), or alternatively, Slash was never given that responsibility by Axl, but he is so arrogant and drunk that he thought Axl had entrusted him with the ring (Axl trusted Duff, who in Axl's dream was clearly sober). Then, unhappy with the wedding being about Axl, Slash left to play guitar. Can you imagine what kind of person leaves their coworkers wedding to play electric guitar? Now keep in mind, Slash never did this, but Axl dreamed that Slash would. That shows the kind of low opinion Axl had of Slash, and provides a real strong deep dive into why he felt he had to bring in Zakk Wylde back in 1995. 

[Rindmelon]

@gunsnchalupas your brain works in strange ways 

[Karice]

On 9/8/2024 at 2:26 PM, Rindmelon said:

Pretty sure everybody involved in this video was on cocaine which may go some way to explain it

 

I never thought of it as a Simba in the Lion King type situation. There is a chance that when it started raining heavy she got swimmers ear and became discombobulated and tripped and hit her head on the cake or something

Axl sings in 3 or 4 different voices, i believe the one people think of as rasp was the one he used to call his demon voice. There is an old interview from way back somewhere where i think he mentions this. Perhaps the 4 Axl's are there to represent the different voices/ side of personalities. The electrocution stuff who knows. There was a time where shock therapy was administered to those deemed to be mentally unsound maybe its alluding to that

Hmm. You may be onto something. Another Guns N'Roses Fan said something like,"The Small Town Axl that gets off the bus is Axl's REAL self, who he truly is at his core. The Small town boy from Lafayette, Indiana is who gets off the bus. The Rockstar Axl who is performing and the Pretty Rockstar  Axl watching TV are actually the SAME person ,just one is performing and the other one is relaxing and watching TV. The Rockstar Axl is who the small town Axl WANTS to be. The Axl who gets electrocuted, he's the small town Axl who is traumatized by the Jungle that is Los Angeles in 1987  that he has stumbled into and he is being shocked to help him cope with his trauma. 🤔💡

[Karice]

Speaking of Axl's "Split personalities," in Don't Cry three or four Axl's show up in the SAME room! 😳 

[Free Bird]

On 9/8/2024 at 3:22 PM, Karice said:

Since I Don't Have You is the MOST confusing Guns N'Roses music video EVER. 😵‍💫 It looks like a weird  fever dream. I don't get why there isn't a scene where Axl is lying in bed, sweating and sleeping and a thermometer on his bedside reads 102 and then the main part of SIDHY happens and we would know that Axl is having a fever dream

Shitty song, shitty video.

[Karice]

4 hours ago, Free Bird said:

Shitty song, shitty video.

I personally love the Since I Don't Have You song. 😍🥰 I find it a beautiful and romantic song! 🥰😍

[Free Bird]

11 minutes ago, Karice said:

I personally love the Since I Don't Have You song. 😍🥰 I find it a beautiful and romantic song! 🥰😍

It’s a favourite for a lot of people. To me personally I always thought it’s the worst GNR song sans My World. Then Axl released CD.

[Karice]

35 minutes ago, Free Bird said:

It’s a favourite for a lot of people. To me personally I always thought it’s the worst GNR song sans My World. Then Axl released CD.

Chinese Democracy is actually getting a LOT of love recently. People admitted that they harshly judged Chinese Democracy up on release because it didn't have either  Slash, Duff, Steven, Izzy, Matt or Gilby on it and only Axl is on it. But recently a LOT of people love how mature and evolved Chinese Democracy is and say they like it MORE than Appetite For Destruction, Lies, and Use Your Illusions Albums. 💡🤔😀

[Free Bird]

1 hour ago, Karice said:

Chinese Democracy is actually getting a LOT of love recently. People admitted that they harshly judged Chinese Democracy up on release because it didn't have either  Slash, Duff, Steven, Izzy, Matt or Gilby on it and only Axl is on it. But recently a LOT of people love how mature and evolved Chinese Democracy is and say they like it MORE than Appetite For Destruction, Lies, and Use Your Illusions Albums. 💡🤔😀

People repeat the same shit often enough, so a lot of other people start to believe that shit. To me it doesn’t matter what other people say.
Let me ask you a question:

What’s more important to you when listening to music? Your own opinion or the opinion of others?

CD is different enough to love or to hate it.  Some people became GNR fans because of CD and prefer it to every other record of Guns. CD is a different band, a different style, a different sub genre.

Nothing wrong with preferring the CD era but all the comments of people claiming CD would be loved if released with Slash are just fan fiction. If CD would have been released with Slash it would sound totally different. But CD as it is, is not comparable to classic Guns. It’s not some kind of evolution like often pretended. It contains some of the same elements because of Axl, but it’s different music.

Edited September 10 by Free Bird

[Rovim]

1 hour ago, Free Bird said:

People repeat the same shit often enough, so a lot of other people start to believe that shit. To me it doesn’t matter what other people say.
Let me ask you a question:

What’s more important to you when listening to music? Your own opinion or the opinion of others?

CD is different enough to love or to hate it.  Some people became GNR fans because of CD and prefer it to every other record of Guns. CD is a different band, a different style, a different sub genre.

Nothing wrong with preferring the CD era but all the comments of people claiming CD would be loved if released with Slash are just fan fiction. If CD would have been released with Slash it would sound totally different. But CD as it is, is not comparable to classic Guns. It’s not some kind of evolution like often pretended. It contains some of the same elements because of Axl, but it’s different music.

nothing beats AFD, Lies, and UYI or ever will in terms of quality imo and I don't even consider Chinese to be a Gn'R album personally, but most of the music on Chinese is not that different and Slash and Duff have played most of it and made it sound much more in the Gn'R style, showing the material wasn't that diffrent to the old stuff.

[Free Bird]

2 hours ago, Rovim said:

nothing beats AFD, Lies, and UYI or ever will in terms of quality imo and I don't even consider Chinese to be a Gn'R album personally, but most of the music on Chinese is not that different and Slash and Duff have played most of it and made it sound much more in the Gn'R style, showing the material wasn't that diffrent to the old stuff.

So you admit it sounds differently when Slash and Duff play those songs?

[Karice]

23 hours ago, Karice said:

Hmm. You may be onto something. Another Guns N'Roses Fan said something like,"The Small Town Axl that gets off the bus is Axl's REAL self, who he truly is at his core. The Small town boy from Lafayette, Indiana is who gets off the bus. The Rockstar Axl who is performing and the Pretty Rockstar  Axl watching TV are actually the SAME person ,just one is performing and the other one is relaxing and watching TV. The Rockstar Axl is who the small town Axl WANTS to be. The Axl who gets electrocuted, he's the small town Axl who is traumatized by the Jungle that is Los Angeles in 1987  that he has stumbled into and he is being shocked to help him cope with his trauma. 🤔💡

I'm going to quote my own quote as another thing about the Axl being electrocuted being the small town Axl is that the Axl being electrocuted looks JUST like the small town Axl, he definitely doesn't look like a rockstar, he looks like he stepped right out of Lafayette, Indiana! 😜

[Rovim]

14 hours ago, Free Bird said:

So you admit it sounds differently when Slash and Duff play those songs?

Slash and Duff bring to it more of the classic Gn'R sound, yes.

[Karice]

4 hours ago, Rovim said:

Slash and Duff bring to it more of the classic Gn'R sound, yes.

Imagine what could have happened if Izzy would have been part of the current lineup, he could have made it even MORE classic 😌😔(Trying to  convey wistfulness)

[Sausagebrain]

The whole Don't Cry video is like a compilation of highlights from a glossy daytime TV soap opera - edited together by someone on acid. 

[Gnrcane]

Except for NR, I think more time was spent thinking about the analysis by the OP than was spent thinking about it to make the videos.  For WTTJ they probably just came up with some visuals that fit the "feel" of the song.

[Ugly_Kid_Jose]

the word up video, i don't know who are the guy singing, but it's not Axl for sure

 

[Karice]

9 hours ago, Ugly_Kid_Jose said:

the word up video, i don't know who are the guy singing, but it's not Axl for sure

 

Because it's an R&B/Pop Group named Cameo singing Word Up. 😐 I REALLY wish Posters would stop bringing up random music videos that aren't Guns N'Roses music videos. 😐

Edited September 15 by Karice

[D4NNY]

4 hours ago, Karice said:

Because it's a Rap Group named Cameo singing Word Up. 😐 I REALLY wish Posters would stop bringing up random music videos that aren't Guns N'Roses music videos. 😐

They’re not a rap group 😂

[pbj_jam]

their music videos are the least confusing part of this brand, but if I had to answer, it's the one where karice makes an appearance definitely..

[Karice]

2 hours ago, D4NNY said:

They’re not a rap group 😂

I just edited the Genres. 😀 Thank you..😀

[papashaun]

How did we get this far on the topic, and no one mentioned the whole "Estranged" video yet?  The director himself wasn't even sure what the Hell the video was trying to convey. This is one of my favorite songs by the band, but the video did not do the song justice. You have scenes jumping around from live footage, to a side story with Axl, to the whole water/dolphin scenes....just a lot of randomness.  I understand it's still the most, or one of the most expensive music videos ever made, but it did not really seem to connect to the "Don't Cry" and "November Rain" videos directly, or obviously, considering it is supposed to be the final video in a "Trilogy."  On top of that, to add more confusion.....it was released AFTER "The Spaghetti Incident" and after the SIDHY video was released. At that time period, it was very strange for a band/artist to back track to a song from a previous album, when you have a newer-recent release. From what I understand, it was released basically because the video was made, and was there,  but the timing and real lack of pushing the single just made the whole thing a mess. Geffen should have put that video out much earlier, or should have just not released it at all during that time period.