More locker stuff? Tom Zutaut

[allwaystired]

44 minutes ago, metallex78 said:

What’s even funnier, is that Duff himself as a Prince fan, was geeking out over the Sign O’ The Times box set, probably knowing that GN’R were putting out AFD with stupid trinkets and fake tattoos, when they could’ve gone the route of what Prince’s estate had done.

UYI Box was a step in the right direction, but GN’R could’ve given us so much more for that price tag 

UYI box is really nice, and I got one recently at a price I considered reasonable (was wildly overpriced at release) but really all you get in there is two live gigs. Considering the price it commands and what COULD have gone in there I think it is definitely lacking.

And I say that as someone who is really happy to have it and lucky enough to have been able to afford it.

[rocknroll41]

At least it’s not like the AiC box sets, which don’t even come with extra audio or video of any kind. It’s literally just the original album bundled with a t shirt or picture book or whatever.

[ZoSoRose]

1 hour ago, metallex78 said:

What’s even funnier, is that Duff himself as a Prince fan, was geeking out over the Sign O’ The Times box set, probably knowing that GN’R were putting out AFD with stupid trinkets and fake tattoos, when they could’ve gone the route of what Prince’s estate had done.

UYI Box was a step in the right direction, but GN’R could’ve given us so much more for that price tag 

I really like the UYI box. An extra disc of demos and a reworked Ain’t Going Down a- la Shadow of Your Love would have made it a 10/10 release, though.

That being said, the live shows are both amazing and the Blu Ray is a must- have

The AfD box wasn’t bad, but needed some more stuff to justify $1000. At a minimum, it is nuts they didn’t include the Ritz show

Edited December 19, 2024 by ZoSoRose

[tboneman]

1 hour ago, rocknroll41 said:

At least it’s not like the AiC box sets, which don’t even come with extra audio or video of any kind. It’s literally just the original album bundled with a t shirt or picture book or whatever.

Or Van Halen box sets. They just keep re-releasing the Six Pack without any unreleased stuff every couple of years. Just same cheap reprints. And the Van Hagar box set that was released last year had "Studio Rarities" disc, was just a collection of previously released songs that weren't on albums vinyl version or were on Best Of albums. 

[DTV88]

1 hour ago, tboneman said:

Or Van Halen box sets. They just keep re-releasing the Six Pack without any unreleased stuff every couple of years. Just same cheap reprints. And the Van Hagar box set that was released last year had "Studio Rarities" disc, was just a collection of previously released songs that weren't on albums vinyl version or were on Best Of albums. 

Yeah, even the Van Hagar FUCK vinyl re-release didn’t include anything “new”. It does have all of the 7” singles reprinted, as well as a CD of the free concert they did in Dallas. The record of that live show was, for some unknown reason, a separate release for RSD. Should have all been in one box together. 

[tboneman]

1 hour ago, DTV88 said:

Yeah, even the Van Hagar FUCK vinyl re-release didn’t include anything “new”. It does have all of the 7” singles reprinted, as well as a CD of the free concert they did in Dallas. The record of that live show was, for some unknown reason, a separate release for RSD. Should have all been in one box together. 

Yeah. And thankfully Alex has recently talk about going through "the vaults" but doesn't know yet when. And he did release one new song as part of his new books "soundtrack" but it's only available on Van Halen com as a mp3. I thought it was something Axl/GNR might do lol. "You want new music? Buy my new book!" 😅 

[ZoSoRose]

There was even some very worthwhile content in the AfD box. The Sound City Sessions are fantastic to have in an official capacity. They sound absolutely amazing. Then that acoustic Move to the City is a real gem to have. Not to mention the new Shadow of Your Love (I still think some of that had to have been rerecorded )

If Axl isn't going to write, then I hope they continue doing some archive releases. Those UYI shows in their complete glory are amazing. Would love some AfD ones, too. 

I also would really dig a Live Era repress (with Coma) with a foil cover numbered out of 3000 on the website. That would definitely sell- out. A compilation vinyl like that once all the ChiDem leftovers would be great, too. 

There are still things I would like that don't consist of all- new material. The time for them to have done that was 2015 to get out with the initial reunion shows, but maybe that'd have fucked things up 

[Sweersa]

I’m waiting for 2028 for the 20th anniversary Chinese Democracy release with multi discs. The trick is Guns would need to get ALL the CD2 songs out before then, so we can then hear the Buckethead and Robin versions on the 20th anniversary release. 😊 

[MaskingApathy]

On 12/19/2024 at 4:31 AM, allwaystired said:

UYI box is really nice, and I got one recently at a price I considered reasonable (was wildly overpriced at release) but really all you get in there is two live gigs. Considering the price it commands and what COULD have gone in there I think it is definitely lacking.

And I say that as someone who is really happy to have it and lucky enough to have been able to afford it.

Oh yeah, could've had demos and more live stuff.

[jimisbatman]

On 12/20/2024 at 6:25 AM, Sweersa said:

I’m waiting for 2028 for the 20th anniversary Chinese Democracy release with multi discs. The trick is Guns would need to get ALL the CD2 songs out before then, so we can then hear the Buckethead and Robin versions on the 20th anniversary release. 😊 

Any chance of passing this through Fernando? Great idea

[Sweersa]

On 12/21/2024 at 3:43 PM, jimisbatman said:

Any chance of passing this through Fernando? Great idea

Thank you. I'm not sure how receptive he would be. I'd love to talk to him about getting Slash to autograph part of my pinball machine (I could take it off and ship it and cover all costs etc.) so I may throw that in there if I do make contact. I have all their phone numbers but won't go that far.

[colonizedmind]

On 12/19/2024 at 5:25 PM, Sweersa said:

I’m waiting for 2028 for the 20th anniversary Chinese Democracy release with multi discs. The trick is Guns would need to get ALL the CD2 songs out before then, so we can then hear the Buckethead and Robin versions on the 20th anniversary release. 😊 

But if anything they only do 31 year anniversaries....you got to stay alive until 2039 dude!

[Gimmick]

On 11/16/2024 at 9:00 AM, jamillos said:

Even though the basic logic may be on your side, I’ll still say I wouldn’t even consider this stealing. We’re talking about 25-year old demos (if that’s the case) recorded with people who are long gone from the band and now uploaded on the internet for a few hundred or maybe thousand fans to listen to; not about brand new songs that the guys just recorded and are about to release, and now this is ruining it completely. 
(Remember Axl’s "vast damage across the board" leak talk in 08? Really, was it? Did some people expect CD to sound differently, even after the new songs that were played during all those tour legs? I don’t think so. Where exactly was the huge damage then?) 

Also remember, the Village leaks happened in 2019, and I haven’t seen any overall harm. It didn’t either make me go, or stop me from going, to a show or buy/not buy anything. 
Nothing would happen, and I insist it serves him right. Here's the thing: maybe I wouldn’t have said this if they hadn’t spent the last 8 years on one and the same tour, or if they at least communicated properly, like other bands normally do. But here we are. 

I’m pretty sure the only thing that did “vast damage across the board” to Chinese was throwing it on MySpace for free right before release and the total lack of promotion. I never really see people talking about the MySpace thing.

[WhazUp]

40 minutes ago, Gimmick said:

I’m pretty sure the only thing that did “vast damage across the board” to Chinese was throwing it on MySpace for free right before release and the total lack of promotion. I never really see people talking about the MySpace thing.

To me the "vast damage" was not releasing an album for over a decade and excepting it to live up to expectations for the general public who already were not interested in a GNR album with only one person from GNR in it that they knew

[jamillos]

56 minutes ago, Gimmick said:

I’m pretty sure the only thing that did “vast damage across the board” to Chinese was throwing it on MySpace for free right before release and the total lack of promotion. I never really see people talking about the MySpace thing.

Holy crap, I almost forgot that thing existed. 

[Voodoochild]

On 12/19/2024 at 2:09 PM, ZoSoRose said:

I also would really dig a Live Era repress (with Coma) with a foil cover numbered out of 3000 on the website. That would definitely sell- out. A compilation vinyl like that once all the ChiDem leftovers would be great, too. 

This would be awesome. Did Coma ever get a proper stereo release? As far as I remember, the digital single that we could download in that site back in 1999 was only in mono. 

[WhazUp]

On 12/19/2024 at 3:36 AM, rocknroll41 said:

At least it’s not like the AiC box sets, which don’t even come with extra audio or video of any kind. It’s literally just the original album bundled with a t shirt or picture book or whatever.

Yeah the "Dirt" one in particular was super disappointing!  Basically paying for the box packaging and shirt plus a version of the original album that has less dynamic range than the original anyways

[The Real McCoy]

On 1/10/2025 at 1:05 PM, Voodoochild said:

This would be awesome. Did Coma ever get a proper stereo release? As far as I remember, the digital single that we could download in that site back in 1999 was only in mono. 

It’s on the Japanese CD and US vinyl versions.

[Voodoochild]

3 hours ago, The Real McCoy said:

It’s on the Japanese CD and US vinyl versions.

But is that in stereo?

[kever20]

On 1/9/2025 at 11:34 PM, jamillos said:

Holy crap, I almost forgot that thing existed. 

And the Axl and Bumble avatars! Lol.

[The Real McCoy]

13 hours ago, Voodoochild said:

But is that in stereo?

I mean, as far as I know? I can’t imagine that they’d press a mono version on the official CD, but that’s just an assumption. It sounds fine to my ears.

[gunsnchalupas]

Not including the complete Steven Wilson remixed UYI is inexcusable. Even if they didn't like the final remixes enough to make them canon over the remasters, they could have included them on a bonus disc as "alternate" mixes. 

[Voodoochild]

10 hours ago, The Real McCoy said:

I mean, as far as I know? I can’t imagine that they’d press a mono version on the official CD, but that’s just an assumption. It sounds fine to my ears.

They did include a performance of the song with a weird fuck up at the ending (I think that was Gilby? Or Slash? Can't remember). It was fairly raw and unmixed. 

[The Real McCoy]

10 hours ago, Voodoochild said:

They did include a performance of the song with a weird fuck up at the ending (I think that was Gilby? Or Slash? Can't remember). It was fairly raw and unmixed. 

PM sent.

[guitarpatch]

On 1/13/2025 at 12:48 AM, gunsnchalupas said:

Not including the complete Steven Wilson remixed UYI is inexcusable. Even if they didn't like the final remixes enough to make them canon over the remasters, they could have included them on a bonus disc as "alternate" mixes. 

I got a feeling we will get those eventually. They will go back to the well again for a UYI release. Standalone remix releases are being done by other legacy artists. Maybe 2026 or 2031 for another anniversary 

As far as this reissue/remaster project? I’d rather get the shows over the demos if it came down to that. That stuff is out there 

I wish they’d do a RSD “limited” run and release the full Paris and/or London shows to complete what they offered between the fan club and CDs. Would be a good vehicle to put out there in front of these 2025 shows and give them more time to decide what to do with the rest of the CD era material 

I also hate that the original mix of November Rain wasn’t included.