Popular Post jimisbatman Posted December 12, 2024 Popular Post Posted December 12, 2024 On 12/6/2024 at 7:48 AM, t-p-d-a said: At least during this period the hope of new music was stronger than it is now. 3 2 Quote
Voodoochild Posted December 12, 2024 Posted December 12, 2024 10 hours ago, jimisbatman said: At least during this period the hope of new music was stronger than it is now. If you mean new releases, back then there was zero. And now we actually had a few. 3 Quote
DeNfr Posted December 12, 2024 Posted December 12, 2024 On 12/11/2024 at 5:10 PM, Voodoochild said: It's funny. Izzy was important during the AFD era, including the UYI songs that were written in that time (most notably, YCBM). But a lot of what the band did during the UYI era didn't have Izzy's creative input, or even in a performance level. At the end of the day, he really didn't want to get involved since early 90s, and I'm sure it wouldn't be that different if he rejoined the band now. I miss him more for his rhythm guitar work than his writing, to be honest. Also, bringing back Izzy and Adler wouldn't make any difference on this band's output. And if they somehow managed to write and release something with Axl, it would still be a mess and people would complain about his vocals/production, Slash's lead, Adler's drums etc. 2 Quote
Popular Post metallex78 Posted December 12, 2024 Popular Post Posted December 12, 2024 Matt Sorum is back in GN’R. Maybe…! In a recent Instagram post he made, he tagged @gunsnroses He’s also posted himself warming up on the drums to record for a “secret” project And for Metallica’s recent charity auction, there is a Matt Sorum UYI Tour bass drum artwork, signed by Matt, that he also signed “GN’R 2024” Poodle-hair back in 2025 to turn our brains into mashed rice starts now! 2 3 1 Quote
smoking guns Posted December 13, 2024 Posted December 13, 2024 10 hours ago, DeNfr said: Izzy didn’t play on Civil War and I think Slash re recorded Izzy’s parts on Don’t Cry AND nobody thinks Gilby was on UYI 1 or 2. 1 Quote
LandOla Posted December 15, 2024 Posted December 15, 2024 On 12/13/2024 at 1:13 AM, metallex78 said: Matt Sorum is back in GN’R. Maybe…! In a recent Instagram post he made, he tagged @gunsnroses He’s also posted himself warming up on the drums to record for a “secret” project And for Metallica’s recent charity auction, there is a Matt Sorum UYI Tour bass drum artwork, signed by Matt, that he also signed “GN’R 2024” Poodle-hair back in 2025 to turn our brains into mashed rice starts now! Please let this happen 2 Quote
allwaystired Posted December 15, 2024 Posted December 15, 2024 On 12/12/2024 at 11:13 PM, metallex78 said: Matt Sorum is back in GN’R. Maybe…! In a recent Instagram post he made, he tagged @gunsnroses He’s also posted himself warming up on the drums to record for a “secret” project And for Metallica’s recent charity auction, there is a Matt Sorum UYI Tour bass drum artwork, signed by Matt, that he also signed “GN’R 2024” Poodle-hair back in 2025 to turn our brains into mashed rice starts now! You lost me at "warming up on the drums to record"...... 1 Quote
ShadowOfTheWave Posted December 15, 2024 Posted December 15, 2024 (edited) No way Matt is ever coming back. There's only room for one megalomaniac in Guns. Edited December 15, 2024 by ShadowOfTheWave 2 1 Quote
Frankfurt93 Posted December 16, 2024 Posted December 16, 2024 (edited) On 12/13/2024 at 4:30 AM, smoking guns said: Izzy didn’t play on Civil War and I think Slash re recorded Izzy’s parts on Don’t Cry AND nobody thinks Gilby was on UYI 1 or 2. Seeeeriously....How can anyone think that when Gilby came after UYI's were out!? Some people really got LATE into GNR world On the side note, Gilby will always be the best thing that happend to GNR on Izzy's position. Everything later on was a continuous revolving door. Edited December 16, 2024 by Frankfurt93 1 1 Quote
metallex78 Posted December 16, 2024 Posted December 16, 2024 53 minutes ago, Frankfurt93 said: Seeeeriously....How can anyone think that when Gilby came after UYI's were out!? Some people really got LATE into GNR world On the side note, Gilby will always be the best thing that happend to GNR on Izzy's position. Everything later on was a continuous revolving door. I got UYI 1 & 2 on cassette in early 1992, and I knew nothing of the band outside Axl and Slash. On the inner sleeves of the UYI cassettes there was a picture of Gilby, and not Izzy, and I’m not kidding. How bizarre right? So I can understand how there could be confusion regarding who played on the album Quote
Oliver77 Posted December 16, 2024 Posted December 16, 2024 14 minutes ago, metallex78 said: I got UYI 1 & 2 on cassette in early 1992, and I knew nothing of the band outside Axl and Slash. On the inner sleeves of the UYI cassettes there was a picture of Gilby, and not Izzy, and I’m not kidding. How bizarre right? So I can understand how there could be confusion regarding who played on the album There's no picture of Gilby in UYI's inner sleeves. I think you're confusing it with TSI. 1 1 Quote
allwaystired Posted December 16, 2024 Posted December 16, 2024 https://www.nme.com/news/music/matt-sorum-shares-thoughts-on-being-excluded-from-guns-n-roses-reunion-3822765 Definitely doesn't sound like he's back, or even really very friendly towards them.... 1 Quote
Gordon Comstock Posted December 17, 2024 Posted December 17, 2024 3 hours ago, Frankfurt93 said: On the side note, Gilby will always be the best thing that happend to GNR on Izzy's position. Everything later on was a continuous revolving door. Izzy, Gilby, Paul, Richard. Yea, quite the revolving door. 1 1 Quote
metallex78 Posted December 17, 2024 Posted December 17, 2024 14 hours ago, Oliver77 said: There's no picture of Gilby in UYI's inner sleeves. I think you're confusing it with TSI. I’m not confusing shit. My UYI cassettes had an individual picture of Gilby in there along with individual pics the rest of the band too. Who knows why this was? Maybe Axl was pissed at Izzy leaving, maybe whoever added photos of the band wasn’t clued in, that Gilby wasn’t actually playing on there, because he was touring with the band? Either way, I’m not confusing anything. I’ll have to dig my old cassette tapes out and upload it here. Quote
metallex78 Posted December 17, 2024 Posted December 17, 2024 Now that I think of it, I’ve even got UYI CDs that were special “picture discs” that also featured Gilby’s photos on them. It’s bizarre, but maybe Axl wanted to include Gilby’s photos, as Izzy was long gone. Quote
Lies They Tell Posted December 17, 2024 Posted December 17, 2024 On 12/6/2024 at 4:33 PM, Frankfurt93 said: unless you want to hear more of HS, Perhaps, General type shit Hell yeah! Give me Monsters, Atlas Shrugged, Berlin and all the other unreleased material out there. That's exactly what I want 2 Quote
Voodoochild Posted December 17, 2024 Posted December 17, 2024 15 hours ago, Frankfurt93 said: On the side note, Gilby will always be the best thing that happend to GNR on Izzy's position. The guy did nothing. He simplified Izzy's guitar arrangements, he was barely audible and the only studio contribution was for TSI's covers - that were all power chords anyways. Gilby looked good and he was there for when the band needed. That's all. And yes, I'm aware of his solo work. 4 Quote
jamillos Posted December 17, 2024 Posted December 17, 2024 40 minutes ago, metallex78 said: I’m not confusing shit. My UYI cassettes had an individual picture of Gilby in there along with individual pics the rest of the band too. Who knows why this was? Maybe Axl was pissed at Izzy leaving, maybe whoever added photos of the band wasn’t clued in, that Gilby wasn’t actually playing on there, because he was touring with the band? Either way, I’m not confusing anything. I’ll have to dig my old cassette tapes out and upload it here. Couldn’t those be just bootlegs or bootleg inserts/booklets? I remember having this double cassette around 92 which looked pretty professional, but it was a weird mixture of Rock in Rio and Farm Aid; the first one had Axl on the cover, the other one Slash. I thought – what with me being a new guy – they were the real deal. Only they weren’t! 1 Quote
Dean Posted December 17, 2024 Posted December 17, 2024 16 hours ago, Frankfurt93 said: Seeeeriously....How can anyone think that when Gilby came after UYI's were out!? Some people really got LATE into GNR world On the side note, Gilby will always be the best thing that happend to GNR on Izzy's position. Everything later on was a continuous revolving door. Flowers where it's due, the only one that has actually contributed songs that have seen an official release since (and before!) Izzy's departure is PHT. Mighty fine songs too. Quote
metallex78 Posted December 17, 2024 Posted December 17, 2024 7 minutes ago, jamillos said: Couldn’t those be just bootlegs or bootleg inserts/booklets? I remember having this double cassette around 92 which looked pretty professional, but it was a weird mixture of Rock in Rio and Farm Aid; the first one had Axl on the cover, the other one Slash. I thought – what with me being a new guy – they were the real deal. Only they weren’t! No, these were all official releases sold from legitimate music stores. Quote
jamillos Posted December 17, 2024 Posted December 17, 2024 8 minutes ago, metallex78 said: No, these were all official releases sold from legitimate music stores. That's weird. You should keep them, could be valuable some day. 1 Quote
3rd Wheel Posted December 17, 2024 Posted December 17, 2024 I appreciate that this thread detoured into a discussion about Gilby. Who, for whatever it's worth, always looked cool as shit. 3 Quote
Sweersa Posted December 17, 2024 Posted December 17, 2024 19 hours ago, Frankfurt93 said: On the side note, Gilby will always be the best thing that happend to GNR on Izzy's position. Everything later on was a continuous revolving door. I may be misunderstanding, but if you are referring to Richard Fortus, he's been in the band for well over 20 years (since 2002). I also find his playing to be excellent. He even plays some of Bucket's leads live. I hope they utilize him more in the studio on future releases. Give him a few solos at the very least! 1 Quote
Free Bird Posted December 18, 2024 Posted December 18, 2024 12 hours ago, Sweersa said: I may be misunderstanding, but if you are referring to Richard Fortus, he's been in the band for well over 20 years (since 2002). I also find his playing to be excellent. He even plays some of Bucket's leads live. I hope they utilize him more in the studio on future releases. Give him a few solos at the very least! But the thing is, you don’t have to play Bucket things live when replacing Izzy. Richard has some good spots but he doesn’t know when to just lay back and don’t fucking shred. 2 Quote
Rovim Posted December 18, 2024 Posted December 18, 2024 1 hour ago, Free Bird said: But the thing is, you don’t have to play Bucket things live when replacing Izzy. Richard has some good spots but he doesn’t know when to just lay back and don’t fucking shred. they're playing Chinese material and some of the leads off that record feature techniques Slash doesn't really uses and I think that not every guitar part can be changed enough for it to sound good when a player like Slash does it, a more old school vibe compared to Bucket's parts so someone has to play some of these parts and it's not going to be Slash. in the last few years it seems that Slash also doesn't always know when to slow his playing down but I find Slash to be a much more interesting player with more to my taste note choices and Richard does tend to overplay imo. 1 Quote
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