Karice Posted January 4 Posted January 4 Some Fans have said that they feel that Guns N' Roses should have been a one album band with only Appetite For Destruction. I wholly disagree with those Fans. Appetite For Destruction is a GREAT album, but it definitely shouldn't have been the ONLY Guns N' Roses album. If AFD was the ONLY Guns N' Roses album, we wouldn't have had November Rain, IRS, Estranged, Coma, PATIENCE(I emphasized Patience because Patience is one of the MOST iconic GNR songs of all time), Civil War. I pointed this out on a now defunct Guns N' Roses Fan Website and Posters replied that they don't care as they don't like any of the songs I pointed out.Β Β A Fan said SERIOUSLY that he likes My World more than November Rain. I cannot wrap my head around how this Fan likes My World more than November Rain. π΅βπ« This confused emoji is my exact thoughts every time I think about the fan liking My World more than November Rain. π΅βπ« Hmm. Another Fan did say something like,"I like My World more than November Rain too. November Rain is a roughly 9 minute saccharine, cloyingly Sweet, bloated, overrated, sappy , whiny lovesick song. THIS is NOT the Guns N' Roses I wanted. My world is a short and funny song where Axl basically gloats he's going to destroy his Enemy. THIS is the Guns N' Roses I want, Axl being a tough guy willing to fight, not some whiny lovesick sap." Β I(Karice ) cannot fathom how these two Fans can like My World more than November Rain! π΅βπ«Β 2 Quote
D4NNY Posted January 4 Posted January 4 1 hour ago, Karice said: Β I(Karice ) cannot fathom how these two Fans can like My World more than November Rain! π΅βπ« I (Danny) cannot fathom how you (Karen) don't like My World (Guns N' Roses)Β 3 Quote
Tomek1985 Posted January 4 Posted January 4 Axl won't play for polish and jews instead of Axl won't play for polished jews. Some polish fans still mad at Axl. And it's a fact (long time ago some polish newspaper fucked it up and it's still around somehow). Quote
Karice Posted January 5 Author Posted January 5 4 hours ago, Tomek1985 said: Axl won't play for polish and jews instead of Axl won't play for polished jews. Some polish fans still mad at Axl. And it's a fact (long time ago some polish newspaper fucked it up and it's still around somehow). Yikes, a simple editing mistake made Polish people get mad at Axl? π±π³ Quote
Popular Post ZoSoRose Posted January 5 Popular Post Posted January 5 Here is an unpopular opinion I have, The final version of Chinese Democracy is a brilliantly produced and great sounding record. I enjoy all of the layers, and think it sounds very rich. I am glad to have the leaks, but I overall prefer the final version. 7 Quote
Popular Post SoulMonster Posted January 5 Popular Post Posted January 5 It's not really an opinion but more of a fact. but despite inviting Slash and Duff back into the band, using old catchphrases and artwork, and predominantly focuses on old music at live shows, Guns N' Roses still hasn't gone full nostalgia. They do release new music (although written a long time ago, but spruced up by Slash and Duff) and play these live, and interject almost random covers now and then into their sets. They haven't gone the route of playing show solely about old albums, like Appetite in its eternity, nor were they willing to pay the price of a full Appetite reunion but just had Steven in on a few shows for a few songs. It could be worse (or better depending on what you think about nostalgia). 2 4 Quote
Free Bird Posted January 5 Posted January 5 30 minutes ago, SoulMonster said: It's not really an opinion but more of a fact. but despite inviting Slash and Duff back into the band, using old catchphrases and artwork, and predominantly focuses on old music at live shows, Guns N' Roses still hasn't gone full nostalgia. They do release new music (although written a long time ago, but spruced up by Slash and Duff) and play these live, and interject almost random covers now and then into their sets. They haven't gone the route of playing show solely about old albums, like Appetite in its eternity, nor were they willing to pay the price of a full Appetite reunion but just had Steven in on a few shows for a few songs. It could be worse (or better depending on what you think about nostalgia). I think youβre right. Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β Β For about 81,754329654% 1 1 Quote
Free Bird Posted January 5 Posted January 5 3 hours ago, ZoSoRose said: Here is an unpopular opinion I have, The final version of Chinese Democracy is a brilliantly produced and great sounding record. I enjoy all of the layers, and think it sounds very rich. I am glad to have the leaks, but I overall prefer the final version. Iβm not really familiar with the leaks but based on those Iβve heard Iβm pretty sure Β Iβd agree. Even though Iβm not a fan of most of the music I think CD has a brilliant sound. Quote
Rovim Posted January 5 Posted January 5 Slash made a huge mistake leaving Gn'R cause the reason for him leaving wasn't good enoug imo. I think it also made Axl go nuts for a while there and of course, ended the classic band when they still had a lot of inspiration, when it came easier for them. not taking away what they could potentially do now. Slash could have waited a few years letting Axl know he thinks they all need to take a break and maybe try to not make music just for 2-3 years or whatever. instead, Slash left probably thinking there couldn't be a Gn'R without him and that Axl would agree to take him back anytime which resulted in 20 years of whatever the fuck we got instead. I recognize Axl's part in this, but Slash was pretty much in exile and you could tell how badly he wanted back in Gn'R when Duff helped Axl with replacing Tommy. 1 Quote
Karice Posted January 5 Author Posted January 5 7 hours ago, Rovim said: Slash made a huge mistake leaving Gn'R cause the reason for him leaving wasn't good enoug imo. I think it also made Axl go nuts for a while there and of course, ended the classic band when they still had a lot of inspiration, when it came easier for them. not taking away what they could potentially do now. Slash could have waited a few years letting Axl know he thinks they all need to take a break and maybe try to not make music just for 2-3 years or whatever. instead, Slash left probably thinking there couldn't be a Gn'R without him and that Axl would agree to take him back anytime which resulted in 20 years of whatever the fuck we got instead. I recognize Axl's part in this, but Slash was pretty much in exile and you could tell how badly he wanted back in Gn'R when Duff helped Axl with replacing Tommy. To be fair, hindsight is 20/20. π‘π€ Slash couldn't tell the future when he left Guns N' Rosesπ‘π€Β Everyone has done things that SEEMED like a good idea at the time but in the future turned out to be a HORRIBLE idea. I'm pretty sure if Slash could rewind time he wouldn't leave Guns N' Roses. π‘π€ Duff and Izzy also left Guns N' Roses and don't get nearly the flack and harsh criticism that Slash got/get despite doing the EXACT thing that Slash did! π΅βπ« At least Slash and Duff are back in Guns N' Roses. π Quote
Karice Posted January 5 Author Posted January 5 11 hours ago, ZoSoRose said: Here is an unpopular opinion I have, The final version of Chinese Democracy is a brilliantly produced and great sounding record. I enjoy all of the layers, and think it sounds very rich. I am glad to have the leaks, but I overall prefer the final version. A LOT of Fans admitted they bashed Chinese Democracy when it was first released because only AXL was there from the original Guns N' Roses and STILL called it Guns N' Roses and CD was released 15 years after the last Guns N' Roses album. But those same Fans currently and recently admitted they actually LOVE Chinese Democracy now and even like it MORE than AFD , Lies, UYI Albums , and TSI. They pointed out that you can tell how much Axl has grown in the CD album compared to the other Albums and mentioned how GREAT CD REALLY is. π Quote
ZoSoRose Posted January 5 Posted January 5 36 minutes ago, Karice said: A LOT of Fans admitted they bashed Chinese Democracy when it was first released because only AXL was there from the original Guns N' Roses and STILL called it Guns N' Roses and CD was released 15 years after the last Guns N' Roses album. But those same Fans currently and recently admitted they actually LOVE Chinese Democracy now and even like it MORE than AFD , Lies, UYI Albums , and TSI. They pointed out that you can tell how much Axl has grown in the CD album compared to the other Albums and mentioned how GREAT CD REALLY is. π There are still plenty that just donβt like CD. The music is very different from what Guns N Roses was from 85-93. To me, Chinese was a big part of the start of my love for the band and I really like the music, so I appreciate that it is different. I think itβs reasonable some donβt like it because of the band name used, but I donβt care about that one bit.Β Quote
Karice Posted January 5 Author Posted January 5 3 minutes ago, ZoSoRose said: There are still plenty that just donβt like CD. The music is very different from what Guns N Roses was from 85-93. To me, Chinese was a big part of the start of my love for the band and I really like the music, so I appreciate that it is different. I think itβs reasonable some donβt like it because of the band name used, but I donβt care about that one bit.Β In 2010 Get Him To The Greek was released and in GHTTG, Aldous Snow releases a disastrous and highly racist Album, African Child which Critics and Fans bashed VERY hard alike and it caused Aldous to become an irrelevant has been. Audience Members straight up said that African Child Album was the equivalent of Axl Rose and Chinese Democracy, OUCH. π±π³β’οΈπ΅βπ« Keep in mind that Chinese Democracy was only two years old when GHTTG was released and STILL being bashed heavily. In 2010 I was NOT a HUGE fan of Guns N' Roses yet and had absolutely NO IDEA what Chinese Democracy was so I automatically thought,"If Audience Members think that Chinese Democracy is the equivalent of the TRULY AWFUL African Child Album, Chinese Democracy must be a REALLY AWFUL ALBUM! I had no idea how GREAT Chinese Democracy album really was in 2010Β since I had no idea what it was in 2010 and only had the Audience comparing it to the TRULY AWFUL African Child Album to go by. When I ACTUALLY heard Chinese Democracy, I thought,"WHY did the Audience Members compare the GREAT Chinese Democracy album to the TRULY AWFUL African Child Album? They must have all been out of their minds, Chinese Democracy is such a good album, not TRULY AWFUL like African Child Album! π΅βπ« Quote
Rudi_aus_Buddeln Posted January 5 Posted January 5 3 hours ago, Karice said: I'm pretty sure if Slash could rewind time he wouldn't leave Guns N' Roses. π‘π€Β π Yes he wouldΒ 1 Quote
ZoSoRose Posted January 5 Posted January 5 3 hours ago, Rudi_aus_Buddeln said: Yes he wouldΒ I do believe that Slash always wanted to be back in GNR in some capacity, but that doesnβt mean he would have regretted his choice. If his career after leaving bombed, I think he would have, but it didnβt. Contraband was huge and he has really loves his solo career. I think everything worked out for him and Axl considering they just werenβt going to find common ground from 96-2016. It is a ton of lost time. But it is what it is. 1 Quote
Rovim Posted January 6 Posted January 6 (edited) 6 hours ago, ZoSoRose said: I do believe that Slash always wanted to be back in GNR in some capacity, but that doesnβt mean he would have regretted his choice. If his career after leaving bombed, I think he would have, but it didnβt. Contraband was huge and he has really loves his solo career. I think everything worked out for him and Axl considering they just werenβt going to find common ground from 96-2016. It is a ton of lost time. But it is what it is. did it really all worked out for Axl though? not talking about the personal stuff or the amount of money he made, but idk.... I believe he wanted Gn'R to release more than just enough great albums, every other classic writing Gn'R member has released a shitload of material but I think the focus on one album, Chinese, came at a high cost on multiple levels. one of them is maybe his lessened motivation when it comes to getting there musically in the studio and releasing it out to the world. I think he wanted and believed Gn'R was going to be much more than what it is currently but maybe he got in the way of himself as a musician. Slash secured his status as an icon and will become a legend, and he always did what he loved doing for the most part while Axl tried to rebuild something that couldn't be accepted without Slash imo. Β Edited January 6 by Rovim Quote
Karice Posted January 7 Author Posted January 7 On 1/4/2025 at 11:53 AM, D4NNY said: I (Danny) cannot fathom how you (Karen) don't like My World (Guns N' Roses)Β My World SCARED me when I first heard it! π±π³ But Fans put My World into perspective saying something like,"My World relives a LOT of the tension that is MOST of Use Your Illusions Part 2.: My World is Axl's"I don't give a fuck song, like,"Wow. Use Your Illusions Part 2 is such a depressing drag of an album, let's have some FUN with My World!" It's a funny,, tension reliving song at the end of a VERY melancholy and depressing album. π‘ And My World free on me when I read that Fan's perspective. ππ‘ I STILL don't get how Fans can like My World more than November Rain however. π΅βπ« Quote
Free Bird Posted January 7 Posted January 7 My World is nothing more than a brain fart, but itβs still about personal preferences. As a fan of the classic band one would think youβd prefer NR but stranger things have happened in the GNR universe. 1 Quote
Voodoochild Posted January 7 Posted January 7 My unpopular opinion is that Axl can and should reuse his CD-era recordings as much as he likes. I don't care if he recorded vocals 20 years ago, and it's probably the best version that he could pull off anyways. For better or worse, the problem with the singles were a lot more on production and uninspired delivery from Slash - for the most part - than about Axl's vocal performance or even lyrics.Β 1 Quote
Free Bird Posted January 7 Posted January 7 (edited) 1 hour ago, Voodoochild said: My unpopular opinion is that Axl can and should reuse his CD-era recordings as much as he likes. I don't care if he recorded vocals 20 years ago, and it's probably the best version that he could pull off anyways. For better or worse, the problem with the singles were a lot more on production and uninspired delivery from Slash - for the most part - than about Axl's vocal performance or even lyrics.Β The only uninspiring effort from Slash on the new singles is on Perhaps in my opinion but to me the main problem with those releases (production aside) is the songwriting and Axlβs repetitive lyrics. Even Slashβs lead guitar on Absurd and The General isnβt uninspired at all. Quite the opposite if you ask me. Do you really think Slash is the weak link on these tracks? Edited January 7 by Free Bird Quote
Free Bird Posted January 7 Posted January 7 My unpopular opinion is that Slashβs delivery on the CD material isnβt as bad at all. He doesnβt nail every solo on each attempt, but he played great versions of TIL, TWAT and Sorry. Better and CD is on point each time. I think itβs 2023 in Boston. This and his early 2016 attempts contain the best guitar solos for This I Love that Iβve heard. 2 Quote
Voodoochild Posted January 7 Posted January 7 1 hour ago, Free Bird said: The only uninspiring effort from Slash on the new singles is on Perhaps in my opinion but to me the main problem with those releases (production aside) is the songwriting and Axlβs repetitive lyrics. Even Slashβs lead guitar on Absurd and The General isnβt uninspired at all. Quite the opposite if you ask me. Do you really think Slash is the weak link on these tracks? Not that he's the weak link, but I feel that we should expect more from him. I know he didn't wrote those songs, but still..Β I don't mind Axl's repetitive lyrics. I do like his singing on Perhaps, Monsters and Hard Skool.Β 1 Quote
Free Bird Posted January 8 Posted January 8 7 hours ago, Voodoochild said: Not that he's the weak link, but I feel that we should expect more from him. I know he didn't wrote those songs, but still..Β I don't mind Axl's repetitive lyrics. I do like his singing on Perhaps, Monsters and Hard Skool.Β I agree he did a good job on those three. Even an amazing job on Monsters. To clarify things up, with lyrics I didnβt mean his vocals, more the amount of lines he wrote for most of the new songs. That gives the feeling, that the vocals werenβt finished written, therefore these songs were really leftovers. Not because of their quality but because they werenβt ready for release until they were frankensteined together (with repeated vocals and newly added guitar and bass parts) 1 Quote
ZoSoRose Posted January 8 Posted January 8 8 hours ago, Free Bird said: My unpopular opinion is that Slashβs delivery on the CD material isnβt as bad at all. He doesnβt nail every solo on each attempt, but he played great versions of TIL, TWAT and Sorry. Better and CD is on point each time. I think itβs 2023 in Boston. This and his early 2016 attempts contain the best guitar solos for This I Love that Iβve heard. Yes! I was at Vegas night 1, Detroit, and Chicago night 2 2016 and Boston 2023 All amazing TiL solos 1 Quote
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