livelikeasuicide Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 I have been hearing that Izzy was the one who wrote most of AFD and UYI songs and that is why Spaghetti Incident was not so good. ??? :-X :-/Also the reason why we are waiting so long for Chinese Democracy. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badZan Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 i got news for you......Izzy did not write the most songs with GNRand that is the truthand the Spagetty was not original record at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spazprm Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 The Spaghetti Incident is a punk cover. All the songs are previously written by numerous punk bands... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockerman Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 Izzy was a principle songwriter for the group and helped arrange/compose most of the songs. SI was recorded at the same time /around as UYI sessions. The songs on SI are punk covers done previously by other bands. From what I understand they were songs they had jammed on in consideration of putting them on UYI but didn't make the cut. SI "sucked" because it was B songs that didn't merit GnRs sticker being put on it. THere are some brilliant songs on it like Down on the Farm and Since I Dont Have You. Izzy offered to continue writing for GNR but did not want to tour anymore with them. Kinda like what he is doing now with this "project" It was supposed to be a filler mini- album like Lies was between major albums to keep the fans interested. At the time SI was released they were rehearsing new material trying to get their act together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Sparkle Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 Axl was responsible for 41% of AFD. Izzy was 2nd in contributions.. then slash, then duff, the Steven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeonian Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 It was my understanding that Izzy's biggest contributions are on UYI albums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffan Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 Actually Izzy also wrote most appetite as well - Mr.B , SCOM , Your Crazy , Out ta get me , ISE , and Nightrain ,and even though Adler is ripped on a lot he cowrote a couple songs as well and is a credited with ISE . Peace GnR Nation 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_Guns Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 Sweet Child O' Mine? wtf ever. Just look at your illusions booklet and it has who has written the songs.G-Face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duffan Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 G-Face , really Izzy did cowrite SCOM with Axl , I found it out through a lot of on line research and someone even posted the AFD writing credits at THIS forum a couple of weeks ago , I wouldn't write it if I didn't have the Facts . Peace GnR Nation 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 Axl wrote the lyrics to SCOM...not the music...that was probably Izzy's contribution to it. I've heard numerous times that Axl was responsible for the lyrics to that song. Izzy did write Mr. Brownstone though. Not too sure about the others. But here are the total combined contributions on the UYI albums (Axl, Izzy, Slash, and Duff anyway):Axl: 22Izzy: 12Slash: 9Duff: 5So yeah...Axl contributed a lot more than Izzy...he wrote a lot of UYI 2, while Izzy wrote a good portion of UYI 1. Not even close to sure about AFD because in the liners, everyone is credited for writing every song. I know that Izzy wrote 'Move to the City' though (for what it's worth...haha...he co-wrote it was Chris Weber, I believe)...heard Izzy wrote 'Patience,' too, while Axl wrote 'One in a Million.' So yeah...Axl contributed more than anyone when it came to lyrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnrlies Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 yeah izzy had more on the illusions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_Guns Posted December 3, 2002 Share Posted December 3, 2002 Axl is the man when it comes to writing for GNR G-Face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnrlies Posted December 4, 2002 Share Posted December 4, 2002 yeah, axl was definately the main songwriter, but it needs to be aknowledged that he wrote only lyrics and general parts of the song, whereas slash and izzy mainly wrote the riffs and guitar parts which are very important to a successful song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaman Posted December 4, 2002 Share Posted December 4, 2002 axl wrote SCOM for his girlfriend, and most of the songs were written together but axl has done more songwriting than izzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
izzy-stradlin.com Posted December 4, 2002 Share Posted December 4, 2002 It does say in after the title of each song who wrote the songs in the Illusion booklets. Izzy mainly wrote UYI1, whereas Axl was UYI 2.The lyrics too Appetite I don't know about, and I suggest most people here are just guessing. I have an interview with Slash on CD where he says he and Adler wrote Mr. Brownstone, but I have another interview with Slash where he says Izzy wrote it.... to be honest I dont think they know ;DI also read that izzy wrote Patience....Izzy has probably written the most material overall if you include his 5 solo albums. I read somewhere that Duff McKagan has totalled at 9 solo albums so far since leaving GNR - that includes his work with Loaded though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holydiver Posted December 4, 2002 Share Posted December 4, 2002 i believe izzy was mostly responsible for afd. all facts show that.. when he was sober he put out an album like afd. several years after ,he was so high on drugs that he couldn't do it so good any more and that's why uyi turned out to be more axl-style. also i see many people concentrate mainly on the lyrics when they are talking about songwriting. no my friends.. that's wrong have you ever tried to write 10 seconds of music ? also remember that scom is remembered for its music, not for its lyrics and so are many other gnr songs.. btw i guess that axl used to consider izzy as an older brother and did what he said at first. don't forget he left indiana to find izzy. izzy was the driving force, axl was the best "instrument" in his hands (considering part of the lyrics and vocals). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madison Posted December 4, 2002 Share Posted December 4, 2002 .. also remember that scom is remembered for its music, not for its lyrics and so are many other gnr songs..Surely you jest. Do you really think Sweet Child would have been as popular if the lyrics to -- oh, I don't know, let's say N'Sync's "Bye Bye Bye" -- were being sung over Slash's great guitar riffs? I don't think so. .. btw i guess that axl used to consider izzy as an older brother and did what he said at first. don't forget he left indiana to find izzy. izzy was the driving force, axl was the best "instrument" in his hands (considering part of the lyrics and vocals).It's true. They were a great team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holydiver Posted December 4, 2002 Share Posted December 4, 2002 well the point was that the distinctive part of sweet child is the opening riff of course and the lyrics.. i think you agree on this. i didn't mean the lyrics are of no importance but you must admit that they were far from gnr's best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 4, 2002 Share Posted December 4, 2002 It shouldn't really matter that much who has written the most and like it's some sort of competition or something. They were a band and that's what bands do. It was like when Axl thanked Slash for his killer guitar melodies in Estranged. I thought that was stupid to be thanking him because that is why they jam together. Slash is talented and modest enough to say that himself.Anyway, why are people, like counting and all that sh*t on who made the biggest contribution to writing? I mean Axl sings, so it would be natural for him to write most of the lyrics, Slash plays the guitar, so it is natural for him to write the guitars for the songs and so on with Duff and the band as a whole as a part of jamming. Music is about always experimenting. That's the chemistry they had and that's why they were the best band in the world.D-ckhead...I was just doing my best to answer the f-cking question at hand...must you really be an @ss about everything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 4, 2002 Share Posted December 4, 2002 Anyway, why are people, like counting and all that sh*t on who made the biggest contribution to writing? That was directed at ME, that is why I snapped at you in my last post. I was simply ANSWERING the d amn question and you had to be an idiot and be all like, "Why are people counting the credits?" or whatever. Anyway, I'm not going to make a big deal out of this unless you do, so I'm done with you for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madison Posted December 4, 2002 Share Posted December 4, 2002 ... ... I mean there are plenty of sh*t hot songs out there that people can't understand the words to but they can like the song. Sometimes the words don't matter at all. It's the music that catches people's ears.But Nathan, that's what puts GNR a step above everyone else. The band has kicka*s music AND lyrics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_Guns Posted December 4, 2002 Share Posted December 4, 2002 woo madison is right indeedG-Face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_Guns Posted December 4, 2002 Share Posted December 4, 2002 Well then if it was only the music for you then you are not a full GNR fan. You are an ex band lover. It is hypocritical of you in a way nathan. indeed.G-Face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost_Guns Posted December 4, 2002 Share Posted December 4, 2002 And for some of us, it is axl's vocals and lyrics that do it for us. But we get knocked down because we look forward to Chinese Democracy. And the music is what did it for you, you don't see us complainging about you liking the project and not the new gnr. i could give a rats ass if you liked the new gnr or not. I said i wished the old gnr all the luck and i hope they put out some great tunes, because no doubt would i pick up the album. But you don't even give axl's band a chance. so you can suck it, hypocritical indeedG-Face Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnrlies Posted December 4, 2002 Share Posted December 4, 2002 as for the lyrics thing, i mean i know that for most gnr songs their lyrics are meaningfull etc, but i mean when you look at some songs and you say (well i say) Cheezy!I mean they flow and are well written for most songs, but for some they are just plain cheesey... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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