Another Review ... Not So Hot....

[madison]

Here's another review -- this time from a local newspaper in Idaho.  After reading it, I can see why the reporter is still working for a teeny newspaper -- obviously knows nothing about music.  

And umm.. I'm guessing this guy won't make it onto GNR's thank-you list on the album insert?

Here's the link.. http://www.idahostatesman.com/News/story.asp?ID=25432

The article kinda makes the Rolling Stone piece look like a rave review, don't you think?

btw, don't bother e-mailing this guy even though he lists his e-mail address. You'll just bolster his ego and make him want to write similar articles.

[Ghost_Guns]

Not to sound like a fucker, but obviously that guy is not there and he is just stressing the envelop to make his shit look good.  you can tell his article is very personal indeed.  4000 left?  fuck nah.  And he said 3 guitarists replaced slash..that is not true.  3 replaced izzy and slash.  So that kind of gayness and falsehood right there leaves me to believe the guy doesn't know what he is talking about.  Fan reviews = right reviews.

G-Face

[Stupid_Moron]

That guy was a tool!

I guess it shows how anything can be twisted!

[Stupid_Moron]

GF ur right about the guitar thing... but didnt he say some of the 4400ppl there left.. not 4000 left

[elikovich]

i'm writing a letter to this newspaper informing this reporter of his obvious oversights and lack of knowledge...i'll let you know what reply i receive

[Guest]

what do you expect. The guy lives in Boise. I am sure in his cd player is Faith Hill and Garth Brooks so he obviously knows nothing about real music. If it weren't for the internet no one would have even read that piece of small town crap!

[rockerman]

I heard that the Boise show was lame. My friends drove across Wyoming to get there and said they shuoldn't have. These were heavy duty veterans who swear by GNR. they said Axl was miserable on the vocals when they could hear him and that the band had about as much charisma as roadkill. &**%%$##@!!**&^%!!!! I dont want to hear that I wanna hear that they blew the roof off and that the venues are standing room only-sold out with scalpers doing good business!!!! What a bummer to have this $hit going down after waiting 11 years to see them (him) again.

[COKE8]

"Then there was the eerie Buckethead, who looks like the missing member of Insane Clown Posse. Wearing a Michael Myers-like white mask on his face and a KFC bucket on his head, Buckethead spewed shredding guitar riffs, did a ghoulish robot dance - and gave a bizarre, between-song nunchucks exhibition. But his hyped guitar playing was like the fast-food franchise advertised on his dome: Efficient, speedy and lacking any personal touch." man that Boise Writer is so full of shit did this piece of shit even know who the fuck Buckethead was B4 joinin' GNR? Bet da asshole did not know he's been a guitar god overseas for years and a cult legend in the states. "lacking any personal touch" my ass Buckethead has proven on his solo albulms that he has plenty of soul esp on his "COLMA" cd i want that fucker to hear "to mom" from Colma cd and then tell me he ain't got no soul. Fuck himQ!!!!

[COKE8]

speaking of which anyone have any Buckethead solo albulms that they want to trade in terms of cdr's? I have Coma, Monsters & robots, & bermuda triangle. cbutigan@yahoo.com

[Ghost_Guns]

people just dont' get it either..bunch of fuck heads

G-Face

[gnrlies]

Well i do think that the title:

Days of Guns N' Roses are over

Was a bit of a crock of shit. I mean one bad show isn't all that makes the new GNR.

BUT!!! I dont like it how poeople in here dismiss the authenticity of a review just cos its not positive. I mean if people have bad things to say about GNR its fair enough...

I mean all i am saying is that you cant be niave and block the truth...

[one_weak]

"Guitarist Slash, whom Rose refuses to welcome back to the fold, has been replaced by not one, not two, but three men. (Slash must be one helluva player, eh?) "

hahaha so true

[one_weak]

and this:

"But his hyped guitar playing was like the fast-food franchise advertised on his dome: Efficient, speedy and lacking any personal touch."

i have already said myself several times...

[holydiver]

sure it's not a good review but it speaks some truths , the most important of which is The sleaze-blues of Guns N’ Roses has metamorphosed into a mechanical-rock onslaught.". anyways... ghostface fan reviews are not the right reviews because fans are fans. the right reviews are musicians reviews..

[cuneo77]

damn half full arenas? that sucks, like it or not i think the tickets would sell more with the illusion line up and/or an album out, i am out in houston and i tell at least one person i am goin and they are like "theyre comin?"

[elikovich]

here's what i sent to the paper...tell me what you think

Dear Mr. Deeds,

     I am writing to address the inaccuracies in your article, “Days of Guns N’ Roses are over,” published in the Idaho Statesman on November 12, 2002.  While I appreciate your attempt to critique the musical performance of Guns N’ Roses, your obvious negative bias and plethora of factual inconsistencies preclude the possibility of an objective assessment.  I hope that you will not receive this as a personal attack, but rather as a constructive disagreement of your views.

     Early in your article, you reference the Guns N’ Roses performance scheduled for November 7 in Vancouver, BC and cite that Axl Rose “didn’t bother showing up for the tour debut.”  According to sources affiliated with the band, Rose was actually on an airplane approaching Vancouver when the event was called off.  Although the exact details remain unconfirmed by independent sources, your review does not even mention this explanation, proclaiming that the cancellation was a direct result of Rose not “showing up,” when in reality, this was probably not the case.

     In the same paragraph, now referring to the Tacoma, WA show on November 8, you claim that “vocal problems hamper[ed] the evening,” implying that Rose’s singing was insufficient.  However, your article fails to mention the technical difficulties that plagued the concert, including the Axl’s malfunctioning microphone that did not consistently capture sound.  Such an abnormality is by no means the fault of the band.

     Next, you label Axl Rose as a “tardy jerk” in regard to Guns N’ Roses taking the stage late.  However, beginning significantly after the scheduled time is a trademark of the band.  Regardless of whether you agree with this policy, it is the nature of Guns N’ Roses and part of what makes them who they are.  The band plays off the crowd’s growing anxiousness, which you incorrectly call a “bitter chorus of boos.”  In addition, you portray the crowd as “sparse,” when in actuality, the venue was three-quarters full.  Those in attendance who left prior to Guns N’ Roses taking the stage did not “sneak away early,” but exited prematurely because they were not familiar with the performance etiquette of Guns N’ Roses.

     Your musical criticism opens with a blatant falsehood, as you assert that former lead guitarist Slash was “replaced by not one, not two, but three men.”  This is simply untrue.  In 1994, Guns N’ Roses included three guitarists, Slash, Gilby Clarke, and Paul Tobias.  Upon the band’s dissolution, these three musicians were replaced by three others, Buckethead, Robin Finck, and Richard Fortus.  At no time in Guns N’ Roses history was Slash the only guitarist.  Your statement that Slash himself was replaced by three additional people is far from the truth.

     You also criticize the Guns N’ Roses setlist, saying that the band “offered just three tunes from the supposedly forthcoming ‘Chinese Democracy’ album.”  In this section, you imply that not only is the integrity of the Chinese Democracy album in question, but that Guns N’ Roses should have performed more selections from it.  According to MTV, the album is due to be released in February, but the goal of the Guns N’ Roses tour is not to promote the new album.  Not being on tour for the past ten years, the group is attempting to raise public awareness of their resurrection.  This is best accomplished by performing classic hits that nearly everyone is familiar with, not new compositions.  Such a strategy is proving to be effective.  Also, you poke fun at Dizzy Reed playing the congas to accompany “Welcome to the Jungle.”  There is no fault in this, as the congas are stereotypically associated with the jungle, thus making musical sense to utilize the instrument in this manner.

     In the closing of your report, you allude to an apathetic crowd, when according to eyewitness accounts and reviews from MTV and Rolling Stone, the crowd is portrayed as anything but uncaring.  In a short interview published by MTV, the crowd is heard screaming, completely engrossed in the performance.  If the attitude of the audience is any indication, your idea that the Guns N’ Roses tour “isn’t…anything worth listening to” is well off-base.

     What is most disappointing about your article are not the above inaccuracies, but your initial negative bias, which completely obstructs your newspaper’s effort to publish objective reviews.  I hope that in the future you will concentrate on evaluating news events from a more professional standpoint.

[Duffan]

Wow that's a hell of good agruement you should mail that guy right away , Don't expect him to change his mind because he didn't have his facts straight to begin with but good luck  

  Peace GnR Nation  8)

[one_weak]

yeah, that was very well written if he cant listen to the reason in that, he's just obviously got something against GN'R, regardless.

[Ghost_Guns]

yea his article sucked mad cattle ass

G-Face

[Ghost_Guns]

sure it's not a good review but it speaks some truths , the most important of which is The sleaze-blues of Guns N’ Roses has metamorphosed into a mechanical-rock onslaught.". anyways... ghostface fan reviews are not the right reviews because fans are fans. the right reviews are musicians reviews..

Dude they are playing for the fans, in the end it is the fans that matter.  Everybody else can EAD.  EAT A D#CK!

This isn't the original band, give the fuckers time to have some chemistry.  What they've played only a handful of shows so far.  Jesus i need some cornbread.  And if you think the only reviews that matter are musicians, damn you got a corn cob in the knee.

G-Face

[holydiver]

Anyways.. that may be true gf

[elikovich]

here's the reply that i received from the reporter:

Thanks for reading.

I regret that I don't have time to debate all your points (I've received 75 to 100 e-mails about this show, mostly from people who didn't even attend). One point I will tackle, however, is that I'm aware of Izzy, Gilby, Paul, etc. The point is that all fans miss Slash, but rather than working things out, Rose has employed three new, disparate personalities that in no way replace Slash's

contribution to GNR's sound.

Have a nice day.

[Ghost_Guns]

goddammit..still doesn't know what he is talking about.  one was to replace izzy..two were to replace slash...glargin

G-Face

[madison]

here's the reply that i received from the reporter:

Thanks for reading.

I regret that I don't have time to debate all your points (I've received 75 to 100 e-mails about this show, mostly from people who didn't even attend). One point I will tackle, however, is that I'm aware of Izzy, Gilby, Paul, etc. The point is that all fans miss Slash, but rather than working things out, Rose has employed three new, disparate personalities that in no way replace Slash's

contribution to GNR's sound.

Have a nice day.

Dude, your letter was great.  

Too bad the reviewer didn't read it all the way through.  Or, if he did, he didn't "get it" -- the same way he didn't "get" the GNR gig.

[coma]

I was at the show and I will post this over and over if necessary to set the minds at ease of all gnr fans.

mailto:mdeeds@idahostatesman.com

http://www.idahostatesman.com/News/story.asp?ID=25432

This is the address of the not a very nice person who wrote false crap about the show.  The crowd was true gnr fans and we loved GNR's performance.  This guy from the statesman was at another show i'm convinced!  So please read the piece of nuts review from the idaho statesman if you have to and when done make sure this guys boss knows what crap the review was and make sure you do something about it.

He is a "PUNK" who hates axl and is making people from Idaho who didn't have the privelage of seeing GNR in concert monday night, believe that Axl sucked.  

CKY i could have done without, DJ mike was cool and the crowd let him know that they loved him. GNR should have played earlier, but when they came on it was great!!!!

Axl hasn't sounded this good since I don't remember when.

He made me proud I came to the show. I was ready to take nuts from those who came with me, but instead I got, "I'm not a huge guns fan, but it was a really good show!" That's what I wanted.  

The non GNR fans really like to run their mouths(Michael Deeds), like when people always used to pitt Metallica against gnr and would compare the two etc...until you wanted to punch them in the mouths.

This nuts cant go unchecked so please email the statesman, tell them you were there and want to know what show Mikey Deeds was watching. This guy is just trying to "create contraversy, by starting nuts and printing lies!" He wants to be published at MTV.com and we need call him on it.

I'm gonna do my part and I ask that you all join the cause.

Don't subscribe him to gay porn because that would be juvenille and wrong  but i can't tell you what to do!

I've always cared for GNR and i loved them when others didnt know them till SCOM came out and then everybody loved them,(except Michael Deeds)so lets not quit fighting, and lets not have someone like Mikey Deeds get paid for lying and misleading people about what really happened.

The worst thing about this prick, is my wife was listening to a radio station today and the lady DJ who admitted not being at the show, commented on how after reading the review of the show was sad GNR had come to this point. What point?!!!!! The show was better then I could have imagined and if people like Michael Deeds are not put in there place then we have no one to blame if gnr fades away and goes dormant again!

Coma