chrisholmesrocks Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 THIS IS TEH GREATEST WEEKEND EVER!GUNS N ROSES THE CRUE AND METALLICA. LETHAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macunaima Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 You're gonna diss Crue for writing rock songs that primarily use the tonal scale degrees? Shit man, that's a weak ass arguement to make against a rock band. The I, IV, V progression is the basis of western popular music. For example, the last four minutes of the "brilliant epic" Estranged is pretty much that. He throws in the key's relative minor for part of it. Big fucking deal. It ain't Stravinsky. Everything Axl tried to do musically on UYI has been done by other rock bands plenty of times. But Axl thought if he stretched it out to 10 minutes instead of three and added a dolphin orgy that it somehow became high art. I don't buy it. I think a song like My Michelle is way better written than something like Estranged or November Rain. Better riffs, better chorus, tighter, more focused song writing. Granted, on UYI he started incorporating tons of Meatloaf-esque over the top orchestration. If you dig that stuff, then great. Personally, I think it's a lot like all the added special effects in the Star Wars reissues. Lots of blinking lights and shiney things, but it doesn't make the song any better to me. Any hack producer can beef up a simple rock song with some strings and horns. It ain't that hard to voice the same chords the guitar's playing for a few other instruments.If you like the Wall better than Dark Side, Let it Be over Hard Day's Night or Welcome to My Nightmare more than Love It To Death, then you'd probably like UYI more than AFD. Just personal taste I guess.great post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artfromtex Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 You're gonna diss Crue for writing rock songs that primarily use the tonal scale degrees? Shit man, that's a weak ass arguement to make against a rock band. The I, IV, V progression is the basis of western popular music. For example, the last four minutes of the "brilliant epic" Estranged is pretty much that. He throws in the key's relative minor for part of it. Big fucking deal. It ain't Stravinsky. Everything Axl tried to do musically on UYI has been done by other rock bands plenty of times. But Axl thought if he stretched it out to 10 minutes instead of three and added a dolphin orgy that it somehow became high art. I don't buy it. I think a song like My Michelle is way better written than something like Estranged or November Rain. Better riffs, better chorus, tighter, more focused song writing. Granted, on UYI he started incorporating tons of Meatloaf-esque over the top orchestration. If you dig that stuff, then great. Personally, I think it's a lot like all the added special effects in the Star Wars reissues. Lots of blinking lights and shiney things, but it doesn't make the song any better to me. Any hack producer can beef up a simple rock song with some strings and horns. It ain't that hard to voice the same chords the guitar's playing for a few other instruments.If you like the Wall better than Dark Side, Let it Be over Hard Day's Night or Welcome to My Nightmare more than Love It To Death, then you'd probably like UYI more than AFD. Just personal taste I guess.great post. man, you like the smiley don't you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Oujamaflip Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 You're gonna diss Crue for writing rock songs that primarily use the tonal scale degrees? Shit man, that's a weak ass arguement to make against a rock band. The I, IV, V progression is the basis of western popular music. For example, the last four minutes of the "brilliant epic" Estranged is pretty much that. He throws in the key's relative minor for part of it. Big fucking deal. It ain't Stravinsky. Everything Axl tried to do musically on UYI has been done by other rock bands plenty of times. But Axl thought if he stretched it out to 10 minutes instead of three and added a dolphin orgy that it somehow became high art. I don't buy it. I think a song like My Michelle is way better written than something like Estranged or November Rain. Better riffs, better chorus, tighter, more focused song writing. Granted, on UYI he started incorporating tons of Meatloaf-esque over the top orchestration. If you dig that stuff, then great. Personally, I think it's a lot like all the added special effects in the Star Wars reissues. Lots of blinking lights and shiney things, but it doesn't make the song any better to me. Any hack producer can beef up a simple rock song with some strings and horns. It ain't that hard to voice the same chords the guitar's playing for a few other instruments.If you like the Wall better than Dark Side, Let it Be over Hard Day's Night or Welcome to My Nightmare more than Love It To Death, then you'd probably like UYI more than AFD. Just personal taste I guess.I agree, this is why I prefer Appetite and Lies to UYI and it's probably why I'll prefer the new VR album to ChiDem (though I'm not sure as of yet). Mr Brownstone beats November Rain and Estranged in my eyes. It's also why Coma is such a great song, no bloody orchestras and no over the top fancy stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macunaima Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 man, you like the smiley don't you? yeah.............................................. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlRoseHaulsAss Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 (edited) over on the motley board they are just as suprised about this pairing as us. Except they think Motley Crue should be the headliner If this is true it will be one hell of a show! Edited February 22, 2006 by AxlRoseHaulsAss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slash66 Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 (edited) man, you like the smiley don't you? yeah..... Wow, YOU ARE (fuckin' happy? cunt) a useless individual. Shame on your parents. Oh and... Dig it buddy!Props to everyone who has not dropped to his level...unfortunately I have. Edited February 22, 2006 by Slash66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macunaima Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 over on the motley board they are just as suprised about this pairing as us. Except they think Motley Crue should be the headliner If this is true it will be one hell of a show!Is there a source for this rumor btw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobbeltvedt Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 which festival is this?Download? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macunaima Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 (edited) Wow, your a useless individual. Shame on your parents. Oh and... Dig it buddy!You are = you'reShame on your parents for not educating you properly.Dumb fuck.In other news, I guess this answers my other question:http://www.mygnrforum.com/index.php?showtopic=62947 Edited February 22, 2006 by macunaima Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmsugaree Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 That would be a shame. the Crue are horrible and their music can't touch GNR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rylz Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 which festival is this?Download?no offense man but this is a very dumb question...lol...read the thread name and all the info that has come along with it...why would you wonder if this is download?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artfromtex Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 That would be a shame. the Crue are horrible and their music can't touch GNRhey macunaima, fire one off for me will ya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macunaima Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 hey macunaima, fire one off for me will ya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outtagetme Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 OUTTAGETME WILL BE AT BOTH THE DUBLIN AND THE DONNINGTON SHOWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1I just bought my plane tickets. We ought to have an official mygnrforum.com camp out section and all party together during the Download Festival shows!!! If anyone is interested in this, please send me a message. This will be my first trip across the pond. CHINESE DEMOCRACY STARTS NOW!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macunaima Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 OUTTAGETME WILL BE AT BOTH THE DUBLIN AND THE DONNINGTON SHOWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1I just bought my plane tickets. We ought to have an official mygnrforum.com camp out section and all party together during the Download Festival shows!!! If anyone is interested in this, please send me a message. This will be my first trip across the pond. CHINESE DEMOCRACY STARTS NOW!!!Dude! You're flying all the way from Atlanta, Georgia for this? I sure hope Axl doesn't let everyone down again. You'll be able to get your concert ticket refunded, but not your plane ticket. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.Q Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 If GNR plays with Motley Crue, I would be late (if MC starts the show) or would leave early (MC finishes the show).MC = waste of timemr.Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Niveen Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 I was a bit negative about having Crue opening for GN'R but I changed my mind...If Axl is accepting Motley Crue as openers, it could mean he has dropped the idea of turning his back on the roots of GN'R...It's better to have the Crue as openers instead of some fuckin' DJ, or some fusion hiphoppers. Or Weezer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Kin Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Motley Crue and Guns N' Roses are the best Rock bands still going FACT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appetite For Waiting Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Motley Crue and Guns N' Roses are the best Rock bands still going FACTNo, they're not. While GNR may deserve that accolade because their music has stood the test of time, Motley Crue are nothing more than 80s rejects. In the 80s they epitomised glam rock and hair metal. They never transcended the genre they were placed in, unlike GNR. They are now glam rock refugees who attract a few nostalgic cunts who wish we were still in 1987. They're absolute jokers. Their songs sould have been written by a five year old - no joke.Without you, there's no changeMy nights and days are greyIf I reached out and touched the rainIt just wouldn't feel the sameWithout you, I'd be lostI'd slip down from the topI'd slide down so lowGirl you'd never, never know...It's god-damn fucking travesty that they're even going to be allowed to share a stage with Axl Rose and the new gunners. I would far rather see GNR tour with one of the quality British rock bands that are around at the moment - Babyshambles maybe - than see them with a load of never-weres singing songs even more clichéd, immature and inane than the one above.Those Motely Crue cunts should crawl back into their pop/reality TV careers or just jump in front of a truck and save us all the agony of watching them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macunaima Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 (edited) No, they're not. While GNR may deserve that accolade because their music has stood the test of time, Motley Crue are nothing more than 80s rejects. In the 80s they epitomised glam rock and hair metal. They never transcended the genre they were placed in, unlike GNR. They are now glam rock refugees who attract a few nostalgic cunts who wish we were still in 1987. They're absolute jokers. Their songs sould have been written by a five year old - no joke.Without you, there's no changeMy nights and days are greyIf I reached out and touched the rainIt just wouldn't feel the sameWithout you, I'd be lostI'd slip down from the topI'd slide down so lowGirl you'd never, never know...It's god-damn fucking travesty that they're even going to be allowed to share a stage with Axl Rose and the new gunners.AMEN Edited February 22, 2006 by macunaima Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobbeltvedt Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 which festival is this?Download?no offense man but this is a very dumb question...lol...read the thread name and all the info that has come along with it...why would you wonder if this is download??Ehh because the topic is something like "GNR&Motley crue" "whats you toughts"So wheres the info about which festival it is...Iam assuming its DOwnload as Donnigten is in england.And you dident answear my question. Is it? :xmassrudolph: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mama Kin Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Motley Crue and Guns N' Roses are the best Rock bands still going FACTNo, they're not. While GNR may deserve that accolade because their music has stood the test of time, Motley Crue are nothing more than 80s rejects. In the 80s they epitomised glam rock and hair metal. They never transcended the genre they were placed in, unlike GNR. They are now glam rock refugees who attract a few nostalgic cunts who wish we were still in 1987. They're absolute jokers. Their songs sould have been written by a five year old - no joke.Without you, there's no changeMy nights and days are greyIf I reached out and touched the rainIt just wouldn't feel the sameWithout you, I'd be lostI'd slip down from the topI'd slide down so lowGirl you'd never, never know...It's god-damn fucking travesty that they're even going to be allowed to share a stage with Axl Rose and the new gunners. I would far rather see GNR tour with one of the quality British rock bands that are around at the moment - Babyshambles maybe - than see them with a load of never-weres singing songs even more clichéd, immature and inane than the one above.Those Motely Crue cunts should crawl back into their pop/reality TV careers or just jump in front of a truck and save us all the agony of watching them!Fuck off you little prick. Hmm Motley Crue or Babyshambles what a toughie i have no idea who is the better band out of these two. Babyshambles , fuck off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDRM Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 Hahaha maybe Axl will run up and suckerpunch Vince by surprise "THATS FOR IZZY!!!" hahsai would LOVE that to happen.Then izzy would come on stage, kick vince in the face and hug axl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kobbeltvedt Posted February 22, 2006 Share Posted February 22, 2006 No, they're not. While GNR may deserve that accolade because their music has stood the test of time, Motley Crue are nothing more than 80s rejects. In the 80s they epitomised glam rock and hair metal. They never transcended the genre they were placed in, unlike GNR. They are now glam rock refugees who attract a few nostalgic cunts who wish we were still in 1987. They're absolute jokers. Their songs sould have been written by a five year old - no joke.Without you, there's no changeMy nights and days are greyIf I reached out and touched the rainIt just wouldn't feel the sameWithout you, I'd be lostI'd slip down from the topI'd slide down so lowGirl you'd never, never know...It's god-damn fucking travesty that they're even going to be allowed to share a stage with Axl Rose and the new gunners.AMENHave to agree...Dident know who motley was until a neighbor broth them in to the world a couple a years ago..I tought it was a new german rock band, their music just dont do it for me..Theres something missing in theire music.Some songs are okey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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