The Sandman Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 OMG is a good song, I don't see why people bash it, just because it's different, much like There Was A Time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bent-axl Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 OMG is a good song. the studio version anyway. i thought the live version sucked though. TWAT is a good song. i look forward to hearing the final version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wildrose Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 Got bored of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ready2CrashandBurn Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 i love the long jam out at the end of twat. i personally feel its the best part of the song Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCGNR Posted March 7, 2006 Share Posted March 7, 2006 TWAT IS SOLID, BUT TO ME, I MAY HAVE HEARD IT EITHER ON ILLUSIONS OR A DIFFERENT BAND DOING SOMETHING SIMILARBETTER IS COMPLETELY ON A DIFFERENT LEVEL TO ME. ONE OF THOSE SONGS THAT ONLY AXL ROSE COULD PULL OFF. AND I THINK THE GUITARS GET SO HEAVY FOR A REASON - KIND OF A F*CK YOU TO SLASHFOR THE LAST 15 YEARS I WAS IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH ROSE THAT THE NEW ALBUM SHOULD NOT SOUND LIKE APPETITE AND I'M HAPPY TO SAY BETTER WAS EVERYTHING I WAS WAITING FOR - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adnan Posted March 8, 2006 Share Posted March 8, 2006 TWAT was my least favorite track when I first heard it, but it grew on me a lot. I just adore it now, and keep humming it everywhere. Now all my friends say is "What the fuck is that song you're humming? What happened to 'Welcome to the Jungle'?!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaneda Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 Guys, I love the new material as much as anyone else, but let's get something straight, an EPIC song is not just EPIC because the song is LONG, it's epic because of the overall quality of the song. In the world of GNR, I see epics like Estranged, November Rain and Coma much differently than a song like TWAT. TWAT is by far the weakest of the new songs because it simply lacks focus...Even Axl seems lost on how to sing the damn thing. He is sometimes high, sometimes low, sometimes way too high and it makes you cringe. Also, where as the songs from the previous albums build to a climatic crescendo at the end, TWAT sort of trudges through a 3-minute outro that has some very cool guitar work here and there and Axl's primordial scream helps things out, but it just doesn't come together enough. Ultimately, the song lacks any focused melody and that is why it sounds like such a mess. Don't believe me, Rolling Stones felt the same way and everyone I play the song for has had the same conclusion. The part Axl needs to fix is the beginning, maybe eliminate a few of the orchestrations and bring the lyrics forward a bit more, maybe add a chorus in there or something. I still think Axl's real epics on the album are going to be This I love and The General... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcalldp Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 (edited) Guys, I love the new material as much as anyone else, but let's get something straight, an EPIC song is not just EPIC because the song is LONG, it's epic because of the overall quality of the song. In the world of GNR, I see epics like Estranged, November Rain and Coma much differently than a song like TWAT. TWAT is by far the weakest of the new songs because it simply lacks focus...Even Axl seems lost on how to sing the damn thing. He is sometimes high, sometimes low, sometimes way too high and it makes you cringe. Also, where as the songs from the previous albums build to a climatic crescendo at the end, TWAT sort of trudges through a 3-minute outro that has some very cool guitar work here and there and Axl's primordial scream helps things out, but it just doesn't come together enough. Ultimately, the song lacks any focused melody and that is why it sounds like such a mess. Don't believe me, Rolling Stones felt the same way and everyone I play the song for has had the same conclusion. The part Axl needs to fix is the beginning, maybe eliminate a few of the orchestrations and bring the lyrics forward a bit more, maybe add a chorus in there or something. I still think Axl's real epics on the album are going to be This I love and The General...All that will be fixed by a good producer. They can be key in adding focus to songs where artists tend to indulge. Added parts like strings and horn ala Illusions tracks are added later as well.The finished product of TWAT could be EPIC indeed. We won't know for sure until it's out but it's still possible to see a big change in it. The demos for November Rain, Estranged etc....probably didn't sound like the final versions either. :krider: Edited March 9, 2006 by mcalldp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon87 Posted March 9, 2006 Share Posted March 9, 2006 I still think Axl's real epics on the album are going to be This I love and The General......and Catcher in the rye... best one of the leak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCGNR Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 THE GUITAR SOLOS ON TWAT ARE PRETTY AMAZINGANYONE ELSE LOVE EM'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnar Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 THE GUITAR SOLOS ON TWAT ARE PRETTY AMAZINGANYONE ELSE LOVE EM'?Nah, they're not anything special. Finck's solo on Better is the best solo on the new songs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stranger Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 THE GUITAR SOLOS ON TWAT ARE PRETTY AMAZINGANYONE ELSE LOVE EM'?Yes, they're great. Both of them, though I prefer the one by Buckethead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaddisonmoore Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 THE GUITAR SOLOS ON TWAT ARE PRETTY AMAZINGANYONE ELSE LOVE EM'?Nah, they're not anything special. Finck's solo on Better is the best solo on the new songs.i think the new solos are awesomw.which one is the fink solo in better? first one?i like the first solo in twat more than the secondisnt it fink too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnar Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 THE GUITAR SOLOS ON TWAT ARE PRETTY AMAZINGANYONE ELSE LOVE EM'?Nah, they're not anything special. Finck's solo on Better is the best solo on the new songs.which one is the fink solo in better? first one?The slower one. It goes something like this: WEEEEEUWEEEEEEU, DEDÖDÄDÖDÄDÅDIDÅDÄDI,WEEEEEEEEEEUUUUUUWEEEEEEEEEEEEU.............Do you know which solo I'm talking about now?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quadlaser Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 this song is easily my fave out of the 3, but the chorus sucks ass, i hope it's changed (the wrong time part). it's crazy, but if i start the song, i just HAVE to listen all the way through.i'm still waiting for some new riffs... every song is too keyboard driven. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sportyboy Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 I think better is the best! But i also like The Blues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Studham Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 the song amazes me, almost nothing has become one of my favorite songs that fastJames S. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roses_are_red Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 T.W.A.T is sucha good song. Listen to it every day. rock2 solos are great and vocals. Me love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeeJay410 Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 it shows axl still has it, but im still waiting for a gnr rocker, and im not completely convinced the new band can do one. They can do rockers just not gnr style Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slashplay Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 (edited) it shows axl still has it, but im still waiting for a gnr rocker, and im not completely convinced the new band can do one. They can do rockers just not gnr stylethe more you listen, the better it gets. Its just the forst 2 mins that need improving, but after that, its got the epic sound to it, definately. Would love to see slash do that solo though instead. but still, very good song. Edited March 25, 2006 by slashplay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Bailey Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 Better > IRS (> The Blues) > There Was A Time (> Catcher in the Rye)Sorry, I like TWAT, but I dont think its as good as the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davhern Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 TWAT is the best of all the leaked tracks...by far. Just my opinion. I don't think it's even close. IRS is pretty average. Better is sort of catchy/poppy, but when I heard it I was like, "WTF is this shit??" I'll admit that it's catchy, though.TWAT is by far the most 'GnRish' of the tracks, and it's definitely got the epic feel to it. I don't understand how the reviews of the leaks have mentioned this one as an also-ran and rave about songs like 'Better.' To me, TWAT really stands out as the best of all the new tracks, and might just rank up there with the older stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uzeurilluzion Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 I can't really comment cuz I'm not listening to the leaks (yet). Except for I.R.S. I think IRS rocks. Axl goin crazy at the end and the guitar is amazing while Axl sings over it. Incredible if you ask me. And so many people on here think IRS is average. I don't know what you are expecting but I loved IRS. Can't wait to hear the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madagascar88 Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 seems like you either love or hate "there was a time"the general public have reacted the best to "better" and "catcher in the rye" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssiscool Posted March 27, 2006 Share Posted March 27, 2006 not a great fan of TWAT but i'll listen to it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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