Guest JohnUlmer Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Once he releases the album(s) he has been waiting to release, if they are a critical and commercial success, he has proven once and for all what he has been holding on to all these years.After that, do you think he should go solo? I think it would be interesting and he would receive far less criticism from the press and listeners. Also, it would give him the opportunity to try new things without people bitching about how "different" it is.Personally I'd like to see Axl try some solo stuff in the vein of Elton John...I'm not saying he should ditch the band because I don't think it's GN'R or anything else. But I don't think there's a problem with GN'R fans acknowledging that a solo career would be interesting. Somehow in the GN'R fan universe if you say Axl should go solo it automatically means you don't like "new GN'R" and you're an anti-Axl crusader or something. I'm not, I just think it would be nice after the Chinese Democracy controversy to hear an Axl Rose solo album.Just a thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solidius Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Whatcha talkin' bout? Axl's been solo since the mid-90s! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JohnUlmer Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Whatcha talkin' bout? Axl's been solo since the mid-90s!I knew someone would say that.I mean should he stop using the GN'R name/trademark.Should he start releasing "Axl Rose" albums...?Again, I'm not implying he should give up GN'R - but I'd like to maybe hear something outside of the GN'R name too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Axl said he'll never go solo. Axl is GNR. He has to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucketslash Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 the way things are, let this band have as much time as gnr had in the sunputting up with all this, they deserve more than one and a cancled tour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axlswife Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 i think the if he decides to go for a solo career he would be less critized by the media. and no doubt about his succes he is a great musician and with or with out ... crazy heads he can succed!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T Patten Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 I've created a couple of topics about this before and yes i wish he'd drop the name guns n roses, the name will always heap bundles of pressure on him as people will still expect stuff as good as the old band put out which just won't happen......Plus they were a complete show up to the name guns n roses on the last tour, i mean a man with a bucket on his head and robin finck on guitar , the thing that makes less sense is that i went and see them twice . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 I don't think an Axl solo record would sell. It would be mauled by the press. It would be career suicide. Oh my god I can't even take the thought of it. That would be horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Flower Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 I think it'd be great.He could do something like 'The Boatman's Call' by Nick Cave, with less emphasis on layers of guitar and synth, and more focus on his voice and his piano. He's always had such a great/unique voice, and I think a more minimalist style of music would suit him.(and, yes, I realise how ridiculous it is to even contemplate any future recordings when we're still waiting for you-know-what) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vogstar90_G'N'R Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Whatcha talkin' bout? Axl's been solo since the mid-90s!lol nicely said... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SylvesterStallone Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Good topic. Yes I think he should go solo...he could create music without all the pressure and baggage of guns n roses. Maybe something more personal and introspective...I'm still waiting for Axl to release a raw song in the vein of Eric Clapton's "Tears in Heaven"....I always imagined "This I love" to be that kind of a song. Imagine Axl sitting in front of a small audience and singing it with Slash playing acoustic guitar...just the two of them and Duff to give support....that would be beautiful....I think Axl would get a lot of accolades and could endear himself to the critics and media that wrote him off if he went this route. I've said it time and again, he needs to do something stripped down and raw. Enough of the epic, queen-style bloated songs. Do something earthy like Nirvana's mtv performance where they just play unplugged in front of a small live audience.That would be a great way for Axl to do something different and reinvent himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannon21 Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 No, hell no, I hope he doesn't...besides it'll be really messed up to go solo just to avoid criticism, besides legally it is Axl's band so there's no reason for him to leave.Kannon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucketslash Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 (edited) How about a cd of An Axl Rose Opera....like, an entire opera written by axl, with one female opera singer on piano and one guitar, heavily distorted played by axl maybejust 2 voices and 2 instrumentsi think it could be beautiful(waits to get imminately slammed) Edited April 20, 2006 by Bucketslash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Flower Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 (edited) That idea is nearly as bad as your sig. Edited April 20, 2006 by Dead Flower Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucketslash Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 (edited) That idea is nearly as bad as your sig.it could be worseit could be as bad as your attitude toward the current gnr Edited April 20, 2006 by Bucketslash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Niveen Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 There is no current GNR. There is Axl's new band. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucketslash Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 There is no current GNR. There is Axl's new band.which is gnr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightcrawler Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Once he releases the album(s) he has been waiting to release, if they are a critical and commercial success, he has proven once and for all what he has been holding on to all these years.After that, do you think he should go solo? I think it would be interesting and he would receive far less criticism from the press and listeners. Also, it would give him the opportunity to try new things without people bitching about how "different" it is.Personally I'd like to see Axl try some solo stuff in the vein of Elton John...I'm not saying he should ditch the band because I don't think it's GN'R or anything else. But I don't think there's a problem with GN'R fans acknowledging that a solo career would be interesting. Somehow in the GN'R fan universe if you say Axl should go solo it automatically means you don't like "new GN'R" and you're an anti-Axl crusader or something. I'm not, I just think it would be nice after the Chinese Democracy controversy to hear an Axl Rose solo album.Just a thought.He should go solo with this album and avoid the bullshit comparisons between this band and the other band. He said it doesn't sound like GNR anyway, why not go it under his own, just as famous moniker? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Flower Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 He said it doesn't sound like GNR anyway, why not go it under his own, just as famous moniker?Money and ego. Mainly money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axls_Disillusion Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 He said it doesn't sound like GNR anyway, why not go it under his own, just as famous moniker?Money and ego. Mainly money.you are quite ignorant if you truly believe money is Axl's main motivator for continuing on with GNR. If that was the case he'd have already released Chinese Democarcy and probably a few more albums, and we'd be seeing GNR songs whored out on every movie soundtrack out there. In fact its Slash and Duff who are suing because Axl is refusing to sell out the bands integrity to anyone who makes an offer. Tell me who is motivated by money. We all are to some extent, but clearly Axl's main concern right now is not money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Flower Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Please. Axl was quite willing to "whore" WTTJ out to the makers of Black Hawk Down, just as long as it was a re-recorded version with the new band. That was the main issue Slash and Duff had with the whole thing, and rightly so.It's also well established that there's a nice healthy bonus waiting from Geffen if Axl delivers a Guns n' Roses record, that he wouldn't get if he released music as a solo artist.The Guns n' Roses name also earns him a lot of money even without a new record on the shelves. The name itself is just incredibly powerful - especially in regards to promotion of this upcoming tour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SylvesterStallone Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 (edited) He said it doesn't sound like GNR anyway, why not go it under his own, just as famous moniker?Money and ego. Mainly money.you are quite ignorant if you truly believe money is Axl's main motivator for continuing on with GNR. If that was the case he'd have already released Chinese Democarcy and probably a few more albums, and we'd be seeing GNR songs whored out on every movie soundtrack out there. In fact its Slash and Duff who are suing because Axl is refusing to sell out the bands integrity to anyone who makes an offer. Tell me who is motivated by money. We all are to some extent, but clearly Axl's main concern right now is not money.Dude you are so one-sided its not even funny. So it's okay for Axl to let Sony use SCOM for a crappy Sandler movie like Big Daddy but not okay for Slash/Duff to use a gnr track for Black Hawk Down? If Axl wasn't doing it for money he'd have left the name. GnR is a huge cash cow, a franchise. Slash and Duff left potential huge money. I agree Axl is not solely motivated by money, but his decisions are not exactly what I'd call rational like the above example I gave you.Besides, if you leave a money making juggernaut like Guns N Roses, its pretty clear you care about more than money. If Slash and Duff wanted to slum for the paycheck like Dizzy, they could have done it. Just stay inactive for 10 years waiting for Axl to make up his mind which is what Dizzy did. They had their own vision for the band and artistic integrity and left on those grounds. You call that being motivated by money or selling out? Edited April 20, 2006 by SylvesterStallone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axls_Disillusion Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Please. Axl was quite willing to "whore" WTTJ out to the makers of Black Hawk Down, just as long as it was a re-recorded version with the new band. That was the main issue Slash and Duff had with the whole thing, and rightly so.It's also well established that there's a nice healthy bonus waiting from Geffen if Axl delivers a Guns n' Roses record, that he wouldn't get if he released music as a solo artist.The Guns n' Roses name also earns him a lot of money even without a new record on the shelves. The name itself is just incredibly powerful - especially in regards to promotion of this upcoming tour.Blackhawk Down would have been perfect for Jungle dude!! You know that! I can understand why Axl would want to use the current band's recording to give them some promotion. I wish it could have happened The Guns n' Roses name is his, and of course he is going to use it for financial gain, as would anyone with half a brain. But you can't say he's a consummate photo, press, and media opportunist who will jump on any opportunity to make a quick buck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SylvesterStallone Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Please. Axl was quite willing to "whore" WTTJ out to the makers of Black Hawk Down, just as long as it was a re-recorded version with the new band. That was the main issue Slash and Duff had with the whole thing, and rightly so.It's also well established that there's a nice healthy bonus waiting from Geffen if Axl delivers a Guns n' Roses record, that he wouldn't get if he released music as a solo artist.The Guns n' Roses name also earns him a lot of money even without a new record on the shelves. The name itself is just incredibly powerful - especially in regards to promotion of this upcoming tour.Blackhawk Down would have been perfect for Jungle dude!! You know that! I can understand why Axl would want to use the current band's recording to give them some promotion. I wish it could have happened The Guns n' Roses name is his, and of course he is going to use it for financial gain, as would anyone with half a brain. But you can't say he's a consummate photo, press, and media opportunist who will jump on any opportunity to make a quick buck More like to cut Slash and Duff out of any royalties.... We know how vengeful Uncle Axl is....The last part of your statement is illogical given he left THE BIGGEST BAND IN THE WORLD! Man talk about a dumb decision to make if all you care about is easy money....AD I think I hear Axl calling...he wants you to fetch his garden slippers....so long mate...come back soon.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axls_Disillusion Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Please. Axl was quite willing to "whore" WTTJ out to the makers of Black Hawk Down, just as long as it was a re-recorded version with the new band. That was the main issue Slash and Duff had with the whole thing, and rightly so.It's also well established that there's a nice healthy bonus waiting from Geffen if Axl delivers a Guns n' Roses record, that he wouldn't get if he released music as a solo artist.The Guns n' Roses name also earns him a lot of money even without a new record on the shelves. The name itself is just incredibly powerful - especially in regards to promotion of this upcoming tour.Blackhawk Down would have been perfect for Jungle dude!! You know that! I can understand why Axl would want to use the current band's recording to give them some promotion. I wish it could have happened The Guns n' Roses name is his, and of course he is going to use it for financial gain, as would anyone with half a brain. But you can't say he's a consummate photo, press, and media opportunist who will jump on any opportunity to make a quick buck More like to cut Slash and Duff out of any royalties.... We know how vengeful Uncle Axl is....The last part of your statement is illogical given he left THE BIGGEST BAND IN THE WORLD! Man talk about a dumb decision to make if all you care about is easy money....AD I think I hear Axl calling...he wants you to fetch his garden slippers....so long mate...come back soon....you call me one-sided, when you are the same, just on the other side (in re your post before this one)If you were Axl Rose, wouldn't you have wanted to do the same thing? Use your current band for your projects and for movie soundtracks? I dont think it was to dick anyone out of anything. The money would have gone to the current guys, so it still woulda been spent. Maybe Axl isn't as big of an asshole as you make him out to be! We all know Robin Finck plays the intro for that song better than Slash did, what better way to have introduced the band to the world on a movie like that? It woulda sounded fucking insane!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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