Why do people hate Axl so much?

[jacque|ine]

Well, I know this topic is a bit lame, I never start a topic, but since I've been a Gn'R fan, all I hear and read about Axl is: he's an arsehole, he should go to prison for live and give all the bands' rights to Slash, he's the reason why one of the biggest R&R bands split up. I didn't really care at the beginning (i've just enjoyed the music), but it started to piss me off lately. I mean, he may not be the nicest guy on earth but you can't deny that he's as talented as a singer as Slash is with his guitar. It's always Axl vs. Slash and usually the credits go to Slash. I shouldn't care, people have different opinions, but everytime I read a review about a concert of this tour, I read what is more a comparison of old guns - new guns. For example (it's an article about the Download festival in the "Play" magazine):

"Which leads me nicely to the latest incarnation of Guns N' Roses. It all starts so well, on stage early and the one-two-three punch of 'Welcome to the Jungle', 'It's so easy' and 'Mr. Brownstone', but it soon becomes apparent that this show will be molested into farce. Half an hour in, Axl throws a wobbler, storming off sighting technical difficulties, whilst cries of 'We want Slash' ring out as A N Other engages in a guitar solo so boring that a trip to the portaloo with your Sunday papers is preferable to watching this impostor(!) arpeggiate his way to the rock hall of shame. Christina Aguilera? C'mon mate, you are at Donington and you are taking the piss. Eventually Axl returns, some guy that plays the bass and is not Duff threatens to go home if he gets hit with another bottle and with a positively lunar atmosphere the band play on. Even the introduction of Izzy Stradlin and the motor-mouthed Seb Bach latterly in the set fail to recapture the magic. A finale of 'Paradise City' lifts morale on the trudge back to the campsite, but after three days of exemplary metal it is clear how out of touch Axl has become."

It's obviously one fuckhead playing intelligent, this article isn't objective at all, but I've just read another one from my country, it isn't much better, they see Gn'R as a joke, something like Axl Rose & support band. When will this shit stop? I don't know if after releasing the CD and touring things will be better. I mean, there are, of course, positive reviews, but compared to this crap, it doesn't even count. No, I don't give a shit about the media & press, I know they've always presented Axl as the "badass rock n' roller" BUT then I read on other Gn'R or Music forums the same crap. People DO believe Axl is a motherf***er who should leave the band. It makes me laugh sometimes; other times it makes me wonder: what did this guy do to them? They hate him more than the 9/11 terrorists.

I just wanted to know what you people think about this.

[droezle]

Well girl. Axl is my icon and i never will hate him. B)

[GNR'R]

Well girl. Axl is my icon and i never will hate him. B)

Aye

[Jackamo!]

They hate him because he is hate-able.

[Mango]

Well, get used to it. People would write anything to sell more of their newspapers and magazines.....

I hope and that the release of the album would put this "bashing shit" to the end .... But i'm also afraid that the album will be "denied by default" in the press.... Just because "this isn't GNR anymore ...."

jmho

M.

[GET OFF AXLS BACK]

They hate him because he is hate-able.

And there it is, he is hate-able!

[lawrence]

whilst cries of 'We want Slash' ring out as A N Other engages in a guitar solo so boring that a trip to the portaloo with your Sunday papers is preferable to watching this impostor(!) arpeggiate his way to the rock hall of shame. Christina Aguilera? C'mon mate, you are at Donington and you are taking the piss.

[GNR'R]

They hate him because he is hate-able.

And there it is, he is hate-able!

Everybody is.

[jacque|ine]

Well girl. Axl is my icon and i never will hate him. B)

Aye

I don't have such a thing as an icon or idol but if i had it would definitely be Axl And he is the person I most admire.

[Jackamo!]

They hate him because he is hate-able.

And there it is, he is hate-able!

Everybody is.

Nah.

[vicious]

i like 2006 axl but not the old one

sure he had the talent but i have my reasons for disliking him back then

i won't bother saying why because people have some really bullshit excuses for him

[miljana]

but there's people who loves axl more than anyone could hate him....

[GNR'R]

I don't care if people say shit to be honest, I've heard it all before, I laugh it off. :krider:

[dezmond]

People prefer reading stuff like, it was a total disaster! rather than everything went great etc..and its so easy to make believable with Axl, you don't even need most of the truth, just hear he went off stage and there were a couple of slash chants, and your fucked!

Thats just the articles..theres way more people that love axl =D.. that just dont get to speak out

Edited August 10, 2006 by dezmond

[sweetness]

What, it doesnt make sense or something?

[droezle]

G N' R

Sit back,relax and listen. This is Rock with a big R.

[Jackamo!]

& a little o, c & k.

[sweetness]

G N' R

Sit back,relax and listen. This is Rock with a big R.

Fuck yeah B)

[Midi]

cuz he's being succeeded even if he's not with the classic gnr which was loved by all the haters

[Kobbeltvedt]

they hate because they wont admint that his the master mind behined gnr music...Some might even be afraid that he want deiliver good music with out the other GAYS...Well lets put it this way we seen what they done We heard demos, even those are better..

Axl will make good music as long as he is alive.

Viva la Axl Rose

[vicious]

they hate because they wont admint that his the master mind behined gnr music...Some might even be afraid that he want deiliver good music with out the other GAYS...Well lets put it this way we seen what they done We heard demos, even those are better..

Axl will make good music as long as he is alive.

Viva la Axl Rose

yeah right

axl actually writes everything including all the instrumental parts?

in the original he was with talented motherfuckers

in the new gnr he's with talented motherfuckers again, because he got to choose professionals with experience, thats why the new guys are good too

[Kobbeltvedt]

they hate because they wont admint that his the master mind behined gnr music...Some might even be afraid that he want deiliver good music with out the other GAYS...Well lets put it this way we seen what they done We heard demos, even those are better..

Axl will make good music as long as he is alive.

Viva la Axl Rose

yeah right

axl actually writes everything including all the instrumental parts?

in the original he was with talented motherfuckers

in the new gnr he's with talented motherfuckers again, because he got to choose professionals with experience, thats why the new guys are good too

People dont admit those new ones are talented....

And its axl who greates the melodies...Every hit of gnr is Axl songs

[Tacitus Monroe]

Well, I know this topic is a bit lame, I never start a topic, but since I've been a Gn'R fan, all I hear and read about Axl is: he's an arsehole, he should go to prison for live and give all the bands' rights to Slash, he's the reason why one of the biggest R&R bands split up. I didn't really care at the beginning (i've just enjoyed the music), but it started to piss me off lately. I mean, he may not be the nicest guy on earth but you can't deny that he's as talented as a singer as Slash is with his guitar. It's always Axl vs. Slash and usually the credits go to Slash. I shouldn't care, people have different opinions, but everytime I read a review about a concert of this tour, I read what is more a comparison of old guns - new guns. For example (it's an article about the Download festival in the "Play" magazine):

"Which leads me nicely to the latest incarnation of Guns N' Roses. It all starts so well, on stage early and the one-two-three punch of 'Welcome to the Jungle', 'It's so easy' and 'Mr. Brownstone', but it soon becomes apparent that this show will be molested into farce. Half an hour in, Axl throws a wobbler, storming off sighting technical difficulties, whilst cries of 'We want Slash' ring out as A N Other engages in a guitar solo so boring that a trip to the portaloo with your Sunday papers is preferable to watching this impostor(!) arpeggiate his way to the rock hall of shame. Christina Aguilera? C'mon mate, you are at Donington and you are taking the piss. Eventually Axl returns, some guy that plays the bass and is not Duff threatens to go home if he gets hit with another bottle and with a positively lunar atmosphere the band play on. Even the introduction of Izzy Stradlin and the motor-mouthed Seb Bach latterly in the set fail to recapture the magic. A finale of 'Paradise City' lifts morale on the trudge back to the campsite, but after three days of exemplary metal it is clear how out of touch Axl has become."

It's obviously one fuckhead playing intelligent, this article isn't objective at all, but I've just read another one from my country, it isn't much better, they see Gn'R as a joke, something like Axl Rose & support band. When will this shit stop? I don't know if after releasing the CD and touring things will be better. I mean, there are, of course, positive reviews, but compared to this crap, it doesn't even count. No, I don't give a shit about the media & press, I know they've always presented Axl as the "badass rock n' roller" BUT then I read on other Gn'R or Music forums the same crap. People DO believe Axl is a motherf***er who should leave the band. It makes me laugh sometimes; other times it makes me wonder: what did this guy do to them? They hate him more than the 9/11 terrorists.

I just wanted to know what you people think about this.

I think it's called an opinion and it's what makes people individuals rather than singularly-minded conformists.

Meet someone who doesn't like Axl? Great. He doesn't like Axl. So what? If you're a fan that's all that matters. If you want everyone to love Axl then I suggest you start a new political regime and practice some form of fascism, because that's the only way it's going to happen. I like Axl - that's enough for me. I don't give a shit about what the majority says or thinks. "Out of touch" with modern metal? Good. Modern metal sucks in my opinion. I'd rather hear GN'R with a mediocre guitarist like BBF than hear shitty metal like AX7. On their worst day with average bandmembers and weak vocals GN'R is still 99% better than any other modern rock band.

That's my opinion.

Edited August 10, 2006 by Tacitus Monroe

[jacque|ine]

Well, I know this topic is a bit lame, I never start a topic, but since I've been a Gn'R fan, all I hear and read about Axl is: he's an arsehole, he should go to prison for live and give all the bands' rights to Slash, he's the reason why one of the biggest R&R bands split up. I didn't really care at the beginning (i've just enjoyed the music), but it started to piss me off lately. I mean, he may not be the nicest guy on earth but you can't deny that he's as talented as a singer as Slash is with his guitar. It's always Axl vs. Slash and usually the credits go to Slash. I shouldn't care, people have different opinions, but everytime I read a review about a concert of this tour, I read what is more a comparison of old guns - new guns. For example (it's an article about the Download festival in the "Play" magazine):

"Which leads me nicely to the latest incarnation of Guns N' Roses. It all starts so well, on stage early and the one-two-three punch of 'Welcome to the Jungle', 'It's so easy' and 'Mr. Brownstone', but it soon becomes apparent that this show will be molested into farce. Half an hour in, Axl throws a wobbler, storming off sighting technical difficulties, whilst cries of 'We want Slash' ring out as A N Other engages in a guitar solo so boring that a trip to the portaloo with your Sunday papers is preferable to watching this impostor(!) arpeggiate his way to the rock hall of shame. Christina Aguilera? C'mon mate, you are at Donington and you are taking the piss. Eventually Axl returns, some guy that plays the bass and is not Duff threatens to go home if he gets hit with another bottle and with a positively lunar atmosphere the band play on. Even the introduction of Izzy Stradlin and the motor-mouthed Seb Bach latterly in the set fail to recapture the magic. A finale of 'Paradise City' lifts morale on the trudge back to the campsite, but after three days of exemplary metal it is clear how out of touch Axl has become."

It's obviously one fuckhead playing intelligent, this article isn't objective at all, but I've just read another one from my country, it isn't much better, they see Gn'R as a joke, something like Axl Rose & support band. When will this shit stop? I don't know if after releasing the CD and touring things will be better. I mean, there are, of course, positive reviews, but compared to this crap, it doesn't even count. No, I don't give a shit about the media & press, I know they've always presented Axl as the "badass rock n' roller" BUT then I read on other Gn'R or Music forums the same crap. People DO believe Axl is a motherf***er who should leave the band. It makes me laugh sometimes; other times it makes me wonder: what did this guy do to them? They hate him more than the 9/11 terrorists.

I just wanted to know what you people think about this.

I think it's called an opinion and it's what makes people individuals rather than singularly-minded conformists.

Meet someone who doesn't like Axl? Great. He doesn't like Axl. So what? If you're a fan that's all that matters. If you want everyone to love Axl then I suggest you start a new political regime and practice some form of fascism, because that's the only way it's going to happen. I like Axl - that's enough for me. I don't give a shit about what the majority says or thinks. "Out of touch" with modern metal? Good. Modern metal sucks in my opinion. I'd rather hear GN'R with a mediocre guitarist like BBF than hear shitty metal like AX7. On their worst day with average bandmembers and weak vocals GN'R is still 99% better than any other modern rock band.

That's my opinion.

I just said, I accept it as an opinion, but it started to be more an anti-Axl movement, like it is cool to hate Gn'R and if you're trying to defend him or the band WITH valid arguments, then you're just a stupid teenager. I'm not saying let's all love Axl, God no, I love diversity in opinions but I think that nowadays people are just acting stupid and not stating an opinion. I don't mind, I love Guns N' Roses and Axl despite what is written in the press and what people around me think. It is my opinion and musical taste that matters in the end. And if you lived where I live, you would see that other people's opinions based on musical taste really doesn't matter to people like me who love classic rock and bands like Gn'R. I'm just saying i'd like to see some REAL reviews (that doesn't mean only positive), REAL opinions based on facts like: ok, Axl shouldn't have kicked that guy out because he had a camera, but in another concert he did interrupt a song because two guy were fighting, so he isn't a jerk all the time. Too many try to sell their magazines by writing whatever sells. I don't care, I just wanted to see what others think about this.

I agree with you, that modern metal sucks.

Thanks for your opinion

[LCG]

Well girl. Axl is my icon and i never will hate him. B)

Yup, I have the same opinion.

People hate Axl as they believe he destroyed the band and believe all the shit that the media said about Axl.