Kaneda Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Since the thread about Axl overproducing stuff got locked (Madison's attempt to control everyone's opinion about the new GNR = sad and pathetic)...I wanted to see what you guys thought about an album that would have just Axl Rose on a piano singing 12 hearfelt songs...And the reason why I think this would be Axl's greatest masterpiece is that it would be more genuine and sincere then the music he's released so far for Chinese D. Does anyone else feel Axl sort of says the same thing in every song and he never takes responsibility for his own actions. Let's face it, Axl kicked the shit out of Stephanie Seymour, yet in all of his songs, he always blames women for things not working. Wouldn't it be more powerful if Axl actually took some responsibility for his actions, maybe a song about how he drove away the love of his life, and how he couldn't control it because that's how he was raised. I think a lot of people would relate to a song about pusing loved ones away. But Axl always paints himself as the victim and it's the woman that has "done him wrong." Please. I know putting Axl at a Piano wouldn't be a rock n roll album, but I think it's an album he needs to do. Maybe he could have a double album, one hard rock, one piano ballads, but he needs to do it. With all of the new material, I just don't get a sense that Axl is saying anything new after 14 years off...I think he has been locked up too much, over-analyzing the past, and thus he's emotional trapped in a time circa 92-94, and his lyrics are indicative of that time period. I kind of agree that while the music for Chinese D is good, it lacks the emotion of the old Guns N Roses. I don't agree that songs like November Rain and Estranged were overproduced, however, they would have been if the other band members didn't make Axl release the Illusion albums when they did. Take a song like TWAT for example...I think if you take out about 4 elements from that song, it would actually be better. It's like Axl's lyrics and vocals are competing with 6 musicians also trying to be heard. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
November_rain Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 And for a moment I thought you had something positive to say... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worldwideboss Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Since the thread about Axl overproducing stuff got locked (Madison's attempt to control everyone's opinion about the new GNR = sad and pathetic)...I wanted to see what you guys thought about an album that would have just Axl Rose on a piano singing 12 hearfelt songs...And the reason why I think this would be Axl's greatest masterpiece is that it would be more genuine and sincere then the music he's released so far for Chinese D. Does anyone else feel Axl sort of says the same thing in every song and he never takes responsibility for his own actions. Let's face it, Axl kicked the shit out of Stephanie Seymour, yet in all of his songs, he always blames women for things not working. Wouldn't it be more powerful if Axl actually took some responsibility for his actions, maybe a song about how he drove away the love of his life, and how he couldn't control it because that's how he was raised. I think a lot of people would relate to a song about pusing loved ones away. But Axl always paints himself as the victim and it's the woman that has "done him wrong." Please. I know putting Axl at a Piano wouldn't be a rock n roll album, but I think it's an album he needs to do. Maybe he could have a double album, one hard rock, one piano ballads, but he needs to do it. With all of the new material, I just don't get a sense that Axl is saying anything new after 14 years off...I think he has been locked up too much, over-analyzing the past, and thus he's emotional trapped in a time circa 92-94, and his lyrics are indicative of that time period. I kind of agree that while the music for Chinese D is good, it lacks the emotion of the old Guns N Roses. I don't agree that songs like November Rain and Estranged were overproduced, however, they would have been if the other band members didn't make Axl release the Illusion albums when they did. Take a song like TWAT for example...I think if you take out about 4 elements from that song, it would actually be better. It's like Axl's lyrics and vocals are competing with 6 musicians also trying to be heard. Thoughts?Wouldn't an album (regardless of what it is) be awesome? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Flower Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Wouldn't an album (regardless of what it is) be awesome?This is true. But, yeah, I've said a few times that Axl doing something like 'The Boatman's Call' by Nick Cave would be awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rougerckr Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 I think an Axl piano album would be great. The White Stripes did it last year with "Get Behind Me Satan." It had only a few guitar driven songs on it while the rest were mostly Jack White on the piano. It was a great departure from the band's previous efforts. Just as White was being lauded as an amazing guitar player, he decided to make an album in which he plays little guitar. A very ballsy move in my opinion. I would like to see Axl do the same sort of thing. It wouldn't be a big seller, but it would make for a nice solo departure.i agree it would be a good project for axl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon87 Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 I wouldn't really like an album with just a piano. Get drums and guitar in there too!An album in the style of Dust in the wind would be in a positive way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F*ck Fear Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 I like the piano concept. But the man's writing skills are just fine. No need to change anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucket13 Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Kaneda...love the idea...id buy the album but...STOP WITH THE BITCHING! I thought finally you would just talk about how great of an album would be with just Axl and a piano instead it turns into my English book report on nonsense :krider: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f**k_your_enemy Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 (edited) Do you get off on this stuff? Edited August 14, 2006 by f**k_your_enemy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrettyTiedUp763 Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 (edited) Wouldn't an album (regardless of what it is) be awesome?Exactly. Lol. It's been so long that I am willing to take anything. Edited August 14, 2006 by PrettyTiedUp763 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjakalen Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack99 Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 = sad and patheticThat would be you and others who waste your time to constantly make up conspiracy theories and ridiculous specualtions without having any facts what so ever. You're clueless.Why the hell should he make a piano solo or a cover album right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack99 Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 He should do something like Johnny Cash's last few records. What were they called - American Records, or American Songs or something like that. Just distill Axl songs to their purest elements.Maybe when he's 70 years old and can't write songs anymore. Rod Stewart and Johnny Cash did it after their careers.My mother hung a poster of motivational phrases over our toilet when we were kids so we'd learn important lessons. One of them was "When looking for somewhere to place the blame, use a mirror, not a telescope." Axl should have that poster over his toilet. But then, he wouldn't be Axl Rose. He wouldn't be as fascinating or frustrating if he was capable of explaining himself.I guess that's better than to not go to school at all..... Again, you're talking about someone you don't really know, what he's been trough or how his childhood was. Since Axl havn't explained his thoughts on the new songs or who the lyrics are about you can just guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Seal Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 He should do something like Johnny Cash's last few records. What were they called - American Records, or American Songs or something like that. Just distill Axl songs to their purest elements.Maybe when he's 70 years old and can't write songs anymore. Rod Stewart and Johnny Cash did it after their careers.Yeah and maybe he'll do that piano ballad album when he's 60 but not atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wando Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Yes, this is the only proof you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack99 Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 He should do something like Johnny Cash's last few records. What were they called - American Records, or American Songs or something like that. Just distill Axl songs to their purest elements.Maybe when he's 70 years old and can't write songs anymore. Rod Stewart and Johnny Cash did it after their careers.My mother hung a poster of motivational phrases over our toilet when we were kids so we'd learn important lessons. One of them was "When looking for somewhere to place the blame, use a mirror, not a telescope." Axl should have that poster over his toilet. But then, he wouldn't be Axl Rose. He wouldn't be as fascinating or frustrating if he was capable of explaining himself.I guess that's better than to not go to school at all..... Again, you're talking about someone you don't really know, what he's been trough or how his childhood was. Since Axl havn't explained his thoughts on the new songs or who the lyrics are about you can just guess.It's amusing to hear an Axl fan criticize Johnny Cash for not being able to write songs.No, that's not what the post says. You'll have to read it again.I'm just a little puzzled by this idea you have that nobody knows anything about Axl's presonal life. His life has been pretty public - He cast his girlfriend in his videoes, used camcorder footage of her child... I mean shit, we regularly talk about his housekeeper for chirst's sake. Furthermore, he's an artist. We've got catalogs of lyrics he's written. His first new single might very well be a song called There Was A Time - or TWAT. We're not talking about James Joyce here. It's pretty obvious what Axl's singing about.Yes, we do know a lot about Axl from what we've read in the press and in interviews and maybe Better and T.W.A.T. are rather easy to figure out. Although I do find it a bit disturbing to read posts where people try to be amateur psychologists and analyze Axl and saying things like "No wonder he turned out like he did" or think they can figure him out because he was abused as a child. Im not saying it's wrong to have an opinion about him or what he does though. It just gets tiresome to hear all these assumption, speculation and false rumours all the time.I think Axl's version of It's Alright is probably the coolest thing on the Live Era cash-in. I'd like to hear him to an album of songs like that.I love that song to but as for right now it would be, to say the least, a very bad idea to release a cover or a solo album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssiscool Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 wernt you put on Read only? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetness Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 That would be pretty cool, but this is Axl Rose. I dont think he would do it, his name is pretty much tagged by Rock N' Roll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl_morris Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 I wouldn't mind it, but just a piano would be too plane and the songs would be "samish". Songs like The Blues, November Rain and Estranged would be good to see as an album though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveysham Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kick13 Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Axl can shit into a bag and sell it for $100 and the obsessed people on this board would still buy it....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SylvesterStallone Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 I'm not saying he write different songs. Use the ones he has. Just instead of all the crazy shit going on and ten guitars and fiftyfive keyboard/sound effect tracks, he should just record the songs simply. But I feel that way about UYI too. I don't think Axl's sonic advancements are all that bold or original, and they obsure what I really like about his songwriting.Exactly. He doesn't need all that crap, the songs are strong enough to stand on their own and in some cases can sound better. For example, there are a lot of people who prefer the rough Don't Cry demo to the studio version. Sometimes, simple is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokingarthur Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 NO! This is not Axl's "shtick". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SERPICO Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 I agree with your post, CITR is my favorite of the leaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wasted Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 I think a Piano N' Axl cood be a good album. Instead of doing an MTV unplugged type of thing. Do the new songs on piano. Like a soundtrack album. Cood be cool after the albums come out. It's sort of the Coldplay effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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