keenly Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 nice and humble, people say?sorry but i have to say ;WRONG!Read one of the many books about him and read 'room full of mirrors; ii've just read it all; very shocking. Half of it talks about his childhood and parents. It doesn't focus on the bad of jimi alot but mentions some horrific things; jimi beat the mother of his first suspected child with a belt while she was pregnant! Jimi twice smashed a vodka bottle in his girlfriend carmen's face; she had to go to emergency room on both occasions. The first time the docs thought she was gonna lose her eye! He beat kathy with a phone becuase he thought she was ringing a guy! These violents incidents happened frequently. Shocking because Jimi is portrayed as a nice, gentle, hippy who just happened to get caught up with drugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slashs_servant Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 well... the best musicians, are the ones most fucked up in the head. thats why they turn to music. examples.sid viciousjim morrisontrent reznorsyd barretjust too name a few. i dont really care wat he did though, all i know is that he was a great ass player, and i have never heard these allegations, for all i know they are probably fabrications. but i respect him for the musician he was, and this does not tarnish his perfect halo ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest katie Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 who cares. he was an amazing musician. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicious Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 well... the best musicians, are the ones most fucked up in the head. thats why they turn to music. examples.sid viciousjim morrisontrent reznorsyd barretjust too name a few. i dont really care wat he did though, all i know is that he was a great ass player, and i have never heard these allegations, for all i know they are probably fabrications. but i respect him for the musician he was, and this does not tarnish his perfect halo !i agree but sid wasn't a good musician, he sucked but was a kick ass icon, i love sid but did jimi do these things while on drugs? he kicks ass anyway, apparently Axl did similar stuff although some of you refuse to believe it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JONEZY Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 I've never heard those allegations before. Remember, people can put all kinds of stuff in a book to help it sell. Jimi's not around to defend himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axl_rose_gnr Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 I've never heard those allegations before. Remember, people can put all kinds of stuff in a book to help it sell. Jimi's not around to defend himself.indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adnan Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 I've heard all of this before and it doesn't affect me because I don't really like him or the Experience all that much, I listen to them occasionally, but not all that much. And he's not the most important guitarist of all time.I agree with Little Steven:Eric Clapton is the most important and influential guitar player that has ever lived, is still living or ever will live. Do yourself a favor, and don't debate me on this. Before Clapton, rock guitar was the Chuck Berry method, modernized by Keith Richards, and the rockabilly sound -- Scotty Moore, Carl Perkins, Cliff Gallup -- popularized by George Harrison. Clapton absorbed that, then introduced the essence of black electric blues -- the power and vocabulary of Buddy Guy, Hubert Sumlin and the three Kings, B.B., Albert and Freddy -- to create an attack that defined the fundamentals of rock & roll lead guitar.Maybe most important of all, he turned the amp up -- to eleven. That alone blew everybody's mind in the mid-Sixties. In the studio, he moved the mike across the room from the amp, which added ambience; everybody else was still close-miking. Then he cranked the fucking thing. Sustain happened; feedback happened. The guitar player suddenly became the most important guy in the band.Anyone who plays lead guitar owes him a debt of gratitude. He wrote the fundamental language, the binary code, that everyone uses to this day in every form of popular music.The day may come, if you're a young rocker, when you'll hear one of Clapton's mellow, contemporary ballads on the radio and think, "What's the big deal?"Put on "Steppin' Out." And bow down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bax Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 I have read a great deal about Hendrix and I have never heard about this. Of course it is possible, but I highly doubt it given Jimi's seemingly peaceful vibe. I would have to know about the author of the book and their past work in order to judge their credibility. It is quite possible that the author is just trying to make a quick buck.Whether it's true or not I will never stop listening to the music. I know some would argue the point but in my opinion he was the greatest rock guitarist that ever lived and I doubt there will ever be anyone in the same league as him.If we judged all music by the actions of the artist, there would be very little worth listening too. I still listen to Axl despite the allegations that he has abused women and I assume that you do as well or you wouldn't be on this forum.If I got on here and started saying Axl anally raped Stephenie-which she has claimed-I would get bashed by everyone here, so don't start slandering a legend like Jimi based on what you read in some book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridin' the Nightrain Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 who cares. he was an amazing musician.So true.Don't really care about anything but the music that muscians create. That's all that matters. Jimi was an amazing player, end of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artfromtex Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Chuck BerryJimi HendrixEddie Van Halenthere's the evolution of rock guitar. everything traces to those guys in one way or another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yamisonic Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 That's most probably crap. People will put anything in books just to sell. I mean, anybody would be shocked if they hear Jimi Hendrix nearly fucked his girlfriend's eye, and would rush to buy the book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ohdistortedsmile1789 Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Chuck BerryJimi HendrixEddie Van Halenthere's the evolution of rock guitar. everything traces to those guys in one way or another.Really, that case for Clapton is pretty pathetic Adnan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keenly Posted August 14, 2006 Author Share Posted August 14, 2006 I have read a great deal about Hendrix and I have never heard about this. Of course it is possible, but I highly doubt it given Jimi's seemingly peaceful vibe. I would have to know about the author of the book and their past work in order to judge their credibility. It is quite possible that the author is just trying to make a quick buck.Whether it's true or not I will never stop listening to the music. I know some would argue the point but in my opinion he was the greatest rock guitarist that ever lived and I doubt there will ever be anyone in the same league as him.If we judged all music by the actions of the artist, there would be very little worth listening too. I still listen to Axl despite the allegations that he has abused women and I assume that you do as well or you wouldn't be on this forum.If I got on here and started saying Axl anally raped Stephenie-which she has claimed-I would get bashed by everyone here, so don't start slandering a legend like Jimi based on what you read in some book.The author spent four years interviewing over 300 people who knew Hendrix very well; including his first girlfriend, other girlfriends, many friends, family and those who were with him on a daily basis.The author (Charles R.Cross) has been an Hendrix fan for decades and even visted his grave in the eighties! He was shocked at what he found out from multiple independant and reliable sources.There is at least HALF A DOZEN books that mention Dozens of violent incidents; many people witnessed these scenes of violence; including noel and mitch. Noel mentions this in his book + their are diary account written in the sixties and seventies(1970) that talk about Jimi hitting women and other boyfriends of these woman were told of how vicious and evil Hendrix was. So it is not just a case of people writing books thirty years later with juicy gossip.I'd just thought i'd express reality because i'm sick of idiots worshipping people they nothing about and saying 'he was such a great guy'; many people HAVE SAID THIS ABOUT SERIAL KILLERS; SO WHAT ANYONE CAN BE NICE SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T CHANGE WHAT THEY HAVE DONE!I'm not saying i don't like his music becuase i bought every album before i started reading up on Jimi; however it's not the same knowing he preached peace in his music yet beat the shit out of innocent women.p.s YES AXL IS A RAPIST! no doubt about it; i would bet my mother's life he would fail a lie detector test!I bought all G 'N R music before i found this out!DAMN YOU INTERNET; YOU'VE RUINED MY MUSIC LISTENING EXPERIENCE; DDDDDDDDDDDIIIIIIIEEEE!!!!!!!! :devil: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetness Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 I've never heard those allegations before. Remember, people can put all kinds of stuff in a book to help it sell. Jimi's not around to defend himself.Thats trueEither way he was a hell of a guitarist and a big influence on me, so as a guitarist I still respect him, no matter what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adnan Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Chuck BerryJimi HendrixEddie Van Halenthere's the evolution of rock guitar. everything traces to those guys in one way or another.Really, that case for Clapton is pretty pathetic Adnan.Hey, I didn't write it. It's Little Steven from the The Rolling Stones top 100 artists, Clapton was 53, and another certain great rock band you don't like was 57. Unless I'm very much mistaken Clapton was a superstar before Hendrix. Clapton defined rock guitar. Hendrix just followed up. Cream, John Mayhall & the Blues Breakers, and the first Yardbirds album. Clapton was already a proven and brilliant guitarist before he even issued his first solo album in 1970. We don't know if Jimi actually learned some of his tricks from Clapton. When Hendrix met Clapton in 1966, Hendrix played Clapton "Killing Floor" to prove himself. In 1966 Clapton was a superstar and Hendrix was playing him tunes. Clapton did exactly what Hendrix did, he just did it earlier.I'd say the evolution of rock guitar was more like this:Chuck BerryEric ClaptonJimi HendrixEddie Van Halen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabre Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Chuck BerryJimi HendrixEddie Van Halenthere's the evolution of rock guitar. everything traces to those guys in one way or another.Really, that case for Clapton is pretty pathetic Adnan.Hey, I didn't write it. It's Little Steven from the The Rolling Stones top 100 artists, Clapton was 53, and another certain great rock band you don't like was 57. Unless I'm very much mistaken Clapton was a superstar before Hendrix. Clapton defined rock guitar. Hendrix just followed up. Cream, John Mayhall & the Blues Breakers, and the first Yardbirds album. Clapton was already a proven and brilliant guitarist before he even issued his first solo album in 1970. We don't know if Jimi actually learned some of his tricks from Clapton. When Hendrix met Clapton in 1966, Hendrix played Clapton "Killing Floor" to prove himself. In 1966 Clapton was a superstar and Hendrix was playing him tunes. Clapton did exactly what Hendrix did, he just did it earlier.I'd say the evolution of rock guitar was more like this:Chuck BerryEric ClaptonJimi HendrixEddie Van HalenYou just want it that way because you happen to be on a Clapton trip at the moment. It's not true. Berry, Hendrix, Van Halen is a good list, and if you want to get technical and add people, there are a good few that would go in as more influential than Clapton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zint Posted August 14, 2006 Share Posted August 14, 2006 Chuck BerryJimi HendrixEddie Van Halenthere's the evolution of rock guitar. everything traces to those guys in one way or another.Really, that case for Clapton is pretty pathetic Adnan.Hey, I didn't write it. It's Little Steven from the The Rolling Stones top 100 artists, Clapton was 53, and another certain great rock band you don't like was 57. Unless I'm very much mistaken Clapton was a superstar before Hendrix. Clapton defined rock guitar. Hendrix just followed up. Cream, John Mayhall & the Blues Breakers, and the first Yardbirds album. Clapton was already a proven and brilliant guitarist before he even issued his first solo album in 1970. We don't know if Jimi actually learned some of his tricks from Clapton. When Hendrix met Clapton in 1966, Hendrix played Clapton "Killing Floor" to prove himself. In 1966 Clapton was a superstar and Hendrix was playing him tunes. Clapton did exactly what Hendrix did, he just did it earlier.I'd say the evolution of rock guitar was more like this:Chuck BerryEric ClaptonJimi HendrixEddie Van HalenIn the movie Hendrix,there is an interview with Pete Townsend...he talks about the night he and CLAPTON went to a Hendrix show in the very early days of Jimi being in England (1966).Townsend and Clapton came out of the gig with their jaws on the ground feeling rather insignificant as musicians,convinced they had just seen the future of the electric guitar..."how do we top THAT??" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckle-Bros Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 What about Zoot Horn Rollo, or Peter Buck, or Johnny Marr? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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