oneAXLinamillion Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 HAVE YOU SEEN THIS BOY?pc geekIm touched btw.......Care to explain yourself?ouch...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artfromtex Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 (edited) maybe they don't want alot of "hype". what happens when you do the big "hype" thing? you get a big first week and then usually a big drop off the second week. also, you get people's already high expectations even higher. maybe there's another approach. an approach that let's the album gather it's own steam. let people discover the album naturally. let the music do the talking, if you will. maybe have phases of publicity to keep the train on the tracks, so to speak. instead of the "crash and burn" mentality of so many other "hyped" releases.it worked for AFD. Edited September 5, 2006 by artfromtex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneAXLinamillion Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 maybe they don't want alot of "hype". what happens when you do the big "hype" thing? you get a big first week and then usually a big drop off the second week. also, you get people's already high expectations even higher. maybe there's another approach. an approach that let's the album gather it's own steam. let people discover the album naturally. let the music do the talking, if you will. maybe have phases of publicity to keep the train on the tracks, so to speak. instead of the "crash and burn" mentality of so many other "hyped" releases.it worked for AFD.Nice post...I quite agree with you althought I still think that it should already be advertised by at least 2 or 3 vids if it will contain 13/15 songs....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artfromtex Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 videos are a must, i agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sandman Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 I dunno, I hope it's something just dropped, to create more hype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicious Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 well i think we will get an exlusive interview with axl soon revealing the first single, real release date, track list and more about CDwhy do i think it?because after 13 years i think Axl would want a huge thing made of it instead of having someone leak all the information over the net (which will happen!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M_Riot Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 maybe they don't want alot of "hype". what happens when you do the big "hype" thing? you get a big first week and then usually a big drop off the second week. also, you get people's already high expectations even higher. maybe there's another approach. an approach that let's the album gather it's own steam. let people discover the album naturally. let the music do the talking, if you will. maybe have phases of publicity to keep the train on the tracks, so to speak. instead of the "crash and burn" mentality of so many other "hyped" releases.it worked for AFD.I think that is a possibility in theory, but I don't think for a second that the label would let a release of this magnitude come out without a PR explosion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaneda Posted September 5, 2006 Author Share Posted September 5, 2006 What the fuck does, "Let people discover the album naturally" even mean? Is there a natural, more organic way to discover Chinese D? Will there be a seed we plant, provide it with water and plenty of sunlight and in 8 weeks time, Chinese D will sprout up from the ground? The reason why some albums crash and burn after only two weeks, is that the product sucks and once the hype dies down, the product can't stand on its own. Obviously if Chinese D is as great as we all hope it to be, this won't be a problem. But they need to come out of the gate strong and make a huge fucking marketing explosion. Most people are unaware that Axl is still performing/releasing an album. Also, the record company wants to recoup its millions, they sure as hell want to get it all back the first week the album ships. Lot's of you think this album needs no promotion, but it does. Anyone watching the VMAs last week is well aware of how much the musical landscape has changed since GNR ruled the world. Axl is seen as a has-been who once rocked...He needs promotion to sell this thing, plain and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axls Rocket Queen Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 AAAAAAAAND there's the bashing.Couldn't help yourself, could you Kaneda? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick85 Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 (edited) Atlas Shrugged may be the first single....check out gnfr.com Only sayin cuz Madison recenlty stated that its said to be owned by Axl. Edited September 5, 2006 by sofine11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomase Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 HAVE YOU SEEN THIS BOY?gotta love the shit starters and what i mean is if you or anybody don't have something to say about this topic don't post here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Manson Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 (edited) HAVE YOU SEEN THIS BOY?gotta love the shit starters and what i mean is if you or anybody don't have something to say about this topic don't post hereBoo-Fuckin'-Hoo!!!! Go tell Ron... Edited September 5, 2006 by Charles Manson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomase Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 i got a laugh at that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Seal Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 The best hype CD could get would by getting USA to attack China and when there's democracy in China it'll be released.. ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.Q Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 HAVE YOU SEEN THIS BOY?pc geekIm touched btw.......Care to explain yourself?That's funnymr.Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sandman Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 HAVE YOU SEEN THIS BOY?gotta love the shit starters and what i mean is if you or anybody don't have something to say about this topic don't post hereBoo-Fuckin'-Hoo!!!! Go tell Ron... Anyway, promotion is needed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shades Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 promotion is NOT neededHes Axl Rose. Eevrybody thats going to buy a CD will buy a CD.Its not like he needs to create new fans.You promote a CD release with a tour, IF you are going to promote it.He didnt, so hes not. He is a business man so my guess is it will be out after thanksgiving in time for the Christmas shopping.If he makes videos it will be for Blues, and Madagascar and maybe one or two of the other songs we have altready heard...... thats why he wore the same clothes at Hammerstein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*ParadiseCityGirl* Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 ^How the hell do you know all this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vicious Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 promotion is NOT neededHes Axl Rose. Eevrybody thats going to buy a CD will buy a CD.Its not like he needs to create new fans.You promote a CD release with a tour, IF you are going to promote it.He didnt, so hes not. He is a business man so my guess is it will be out after thanksgiving in time for the Christmas shopping.If he makes videos it will be for Blues, and Madagascar and maybe one or two of the other songs we have altready heard...... thats why he wore the same clothes at Hammerstein.they do need promotionmaybe not in the states but definetly in europenobody knows whats happening over here unless your on the webi talked to so many fans at dublin who didn't have a clue what was happening and some even thought it was the originalseve today i was explaining to a teacher what was going on and he was shocked there was still a gnr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannon21 Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 (edited) HAVE YOU SEEN THIS BOY?pc geekIm touched btw.......Care to explain yourself?The best PWN yet? :xmasssanta: Totally!!!! and as some mentioned before, Manson for Mod God :krider: Kannon.*on topic, I'm totally up for "promoting" here in NYC Edited September 5, 2006 by kannon21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SylvesterStallone Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 HAVE YOU SEEN THIS BOY?Great picture.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artfromtex Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 1. What the fuck does, "Let people discover the album naturally" even mean? Is there a natural, more organic way to discover Chinese D? Will there be a seed we plant, provide it with water and plenty of sunlight and in 8 weeks time, Chinese D will sprout up from the ground? 2. The reason why some albums crash and burn after only two weeks, is that the product sucks and once the hype dies down, the product can't stand on its own. Obviously if Chinese D is as great as we all hope it to be, this won't be a problem. But they need to come out of the gate strong and make a huge fucking marketing explosion. Most people are unaware that Axl is still performing/releasing an album. Also, the record company wants to recoup its millions, they sure as hell want to get it all back the first week the album ships. Lot's of you think this album needs no promotion, but it does. Anyone watching the VMAs last week is well aware of how much the musical landscape has changed since GNR ruled the world. Axl is seen as a has-been who once rocked...He needs promotion to sell this thing, plain and simple.1. GNR has/had a very broad fan base. there are different ways to market to each facet. answer this question; where have all the old fans gone? what do they listen to now? there's 10 differnent answers to those questions, and they're all correct. now, how do reach all those different sects of society. there's no one blanket to cover that. by, letting them discovery it naturally, i mean use different methods of advertising to appeal to the a)GNR fan turned soccer-mom, B) GNR fan turned country/western, NASCAR loving redneck, c) the metalheads, and on and on and on. instead of the typical broadstroke advertising methods that alot of albums get nowadays. i'm not saying "no promotion", i'm saying no "HYPE". there's a difference. i don't think press conferences and bloated bullshit like that are in order. for instance, Audioslave has a new song in Madden 07, that's fucking great marketing. what about a GNR paint scheme on a high profile car during one of the championship NASCAR races this fall? what about playing the halftime show during the Thanksgiving Day football (NFL) games? then there's web-based advertising. on and on.2. this is why i hate "HYPE". even if the album is great, it's bound to disappoint people. hyping it in the media like a summer blockbuster movie will only add to that unrealistic expectation. you are right that alot of hyped shit is just that, "shit". but, even quality material can receive public backlash if you beat them over the head with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forsaken Posted September 5, 2006 Share Posted September 5, 2006 HAVE YOU SEEN THIS BOY?pc geekIm touched btw.......Care to explain yourself?..........................Owned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vogstar90_G'N'R Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 HAVE YOU SEEN THIS BOY?whose the guy in the photo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick85 Posted September 6, 2006 Share Posted September 6, 2006 HAVE YOU SEEN THIS BOY?whose the guy in the photo?For some reason Kaneda felt compelled to share pictures of himself to let us know what he looked like. I believe it's from his myspace. His name's Chris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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