Ex–‘White-Boy Poseur’

[rainman_1985]

Man you guys that are trying to tell Axl he doesn't know what he's talking look like fucking idiots and racists I might add. The members of NWA would of had it harder than GNR growing up, that is a simple fact. Even when Axl admits it you still can't accept it.

Doing lots of drugs and being broke out of choice does not equal the hardship of growing up a ghetto. Accept it, deal with it and get over it.

You've built up Axl and the rest of GNR to be your tough bad ass white fantasy so that you can live vicariously through them. When the one person who should know more than you what it was actually like tells it like it was you enter denial.

All of you who are claiming Axl is sucking up to 'rap' and trying to be a 'rapper' and especially you who pretended Axl was speaking in Ghetto slang when he said it... What the fuck are talking about?

If a rough life was forced upon you then that's a shame, if you wanna feel tough and pose then you have masculinty issues. All this 'bad ass' bullshit is a fucking joke.

[Kickingthehabit]

"Just an urchin livin' under the street" rings true to a lot of people who grew up in Los Angeles. They were, as Stallone said, the real deal..

Axl's comment certainly undermines the bands struggle..

-Kickingthehabit

[mr.drummin]

Interesting.

[Longpig]

Man you guys that are trying to tell Axl he doesn't know what he's talking look like fucking idiots and racists I might add. The members of NWA would of had it harder than GNR growing up, that is a simple fact. Even when Axl admits it you still can't accept it.

Doing lots of drugs and being broke out of choice does not equal the hardship of growing up a ghetto. Accept it, deal with it and get over it.

You've built up Axl and the rest of GNR to be your tough bad ass white fantasy so that you can live vicariously through them. When the one person who should know more than you what it was actually like tells it like it was you enter denial.

All of you who are claiming Axl is sucking up to 'rap' and trying to be a 'rapper' and especially you who pretended Axl was speaking in Ghetto slang when he said it... What the fuck are talking about?

If a rough life was forced upon you then that's a shame, if you wanna feel tough and pose then you have masculinty issues. All this 'bad ass' bullshit is a fucking joke.

Quality post

LP

[bin laden killed gnr]

To you fuckers who are fresh members (joining this year), you need to stop questioning people who have been here for years. You weren't here through the wait so shut the fuck up. Bandwagon fans

[DirtyDeeds]

Please point out to me exactly where the "racism" is in this thread. I don't see any.

"Since when was this an Axl-bashing thread?" Oh please. If there ever was an Axl bashing thread, it's been this one, and Axl brought it on himself almost directly this time!

[Ghost_Guns]

Please point out to me exactly where the "racism" is in this thread. I don't see any.

"Since when was this an Axl-bashing thread?" Oh please. If there ever was an Axl bashing thread, it's been this one, and Axl brought it on himself almost directly this time!

anything goes?

[D-GenerationX]

I'm hardly surpirsed by the reaction in this thread.

There is a large contigent here who can't move on. This is news? They still want Axl in leather and bandanas. They also want AFD II, AFD III, etc.

Axl's comments are completely logical. He is not the same person he was 20 years ago. Few of us are. Frankly, I'd be more embrassed for him if anything if he was still tring to play the role of Axl Rose circa 1988.

[*ParadiseCityGirl*]

I'm hardly surpirsed by the reaction in this thread.

There is a large contigent here who can't move on. This is news? They still want Axl in leather and bandanas. They also want AFD II, AFD III, etc.

Axl's comments are completely logical. He is not the same person he was 20 years ago. Few of us are. Frankly, I'd be more embrassed for him if anything if he was still tring to play the role of Axl Rose circa 1988.

I kinda agree with you there...he isn't the same as he was 20 years ago. And neither is the band. I understand that you can't go in the same direction for your entire career, but completley changing the whole image can do some serious damage.

I don't want to bring Slash into the discussion because it will probably add to the controversy but he's done a really good job at sticking to his roots and evolving at the same time. No, i'm not expecting another AFD or UYI, and I know Axl is going in a totally different direction than that.. But it's kindof hard to accept it when thats what made you crazy about them in the first place.

[gabrielsevenn]

"he isn't the same as he was 20 years ago. And neither is the band."

Off topic, but I laugh everytime someone says how this band has evolved and they aren't the same band as they were 20 years ago. Yeah, they aren't the same band. It's a whole different band. It's Axl's new project with the Guns N' Roses name stamped on it. Maybe it's good music, maybe it's not good music, but it ain't Guns N' Roses.

Axl was cool, then he got that cigarette holder thingy and it all went down hill from there. He's become a caricature of himself. I keep thinking he's coming around but it's hard to ignore his childish behavior this last tour and over the last few years in general with the album and buckethead deal. Funny talking about being mature and Axl in the same sentence. I wish nothing but the best for the enigma, though.

[SylvesterStallone]

I'm hardly surpirsed by the reaction in this thread.

There is a large contigent here who can't move on. This is news? They still want Axl in leather and bandanas. They also want AFD II, AFD III, etc.

Axl's comments are completely logical. He is not the same person he was 20 years ago. Few of us are. Frankly, I'd be more embrassed for him if anything if he was still tring to play the role of Axl Rose circa 1988.

No we just want him to get real and quit being a self-loathing rockstar.

Who is the poser....a poor white trash kid living on biscuits and gravy in the streets of LA or a 44 year old rockstar singing "Out ta get me" and flashing his middle finger in his custom fitted euro-trash GQ clothes?

At some point comments like these are going to start killing his credibility. I don't even think it's about being mature (which he isn't. He just bit a security guard in the leg two months ago), he's undermining the legacy of the old band in order to stay relevant with new guns.

[*ParadiseCityGirl*]

What the hell does a cigarette holder have to do with anything?

[aussie_axl]

"he isn't the same as he was 20 years ago. And neither is the band."

Off topic, but I laugh everytime someone says how this band has evolved and they aren't the same band as they were 20 years ago. Yeah, they aren't the same band. It's a whole different band. It's Axl's new project with the Guns N' Roses name stamped on it. Maybe it's good music, maybe it's not good music, but it ain't Guns N' Roses.

Axl was cool, then he got that cigarette holder thingy and it all went down hill from there. He's become a caricature of himself. I keep thinking he's coming around but it's hard to ignore his childish behavior this last tour and over the last few years in general with the album and buckethead deal. Funny talking about being mature and Axl in the same sentence. I wish nothing but the best for the enigma, though.

yeah...... you can't call axe man mature, but fuck i don't mind him being erratic. makes him interesting, mature can be boring as fuck sometimes.

[gabrielsevenn]

What the hell does a cigarette holder have to do with anything?

It was at that moment he became full of himself. I mean, don't hold the cigarette anymore, don't want to touch it.

We go from the "poser" Axl living in a trash can in the streets of LA to the Axl with a full entourage of escort security in white suits riding in the back of a white limo with a cigarette holder.

Naturally, I don't have anything against him, just having fun. It's ok to have fun with the celebs. If not for entertainment, what are they there for?

[gabrielsevenn]

"he isn't the same as he was 20 years ago. And neither is the band."

Off topic, but I laugh everytime someone says how this band has evolved and they aren't the same band as they were 20 years ago. Yeah, they aren't the same band. It's a whole different band. It's Axl's new project with the Guns N' Roses name stamped on it. Maybe it's good music, maybe it's not good music, but it ain't Guns N' Roses.

Axl was cool, then he got that cigarette holder thingy and it all went down hill from there. He's become a caricature of himself. I keep thinking he's coming around but it's hard to ignore his childish behavior this last tour and over the last few years in general with the album and buckethead deal. Funny talking about being mature and Axl in the same sentence. I wish nothing but the best for the enigma, though.

yeah...... you can't call axe man mature, but fuck i don't mind him being erratic. makes him interesting, mature can be boring as fuck sometimes.

No, no, I like the old Axl when he was 20 something and I was 10 something. He was cool. Starting riots, causing rutcuss, etc. etc. But now? I mean, the whole dating models/nudy bar/ biting security guards/eating lamb....eating lamb? Give it up. Show up to sound check, be on time to the show, actually play the show. Maybe just maybe put out a record every decade or so. Perhaps you could give the fans some solid news/updates/access to what you're working on through some sort of official means.

[wasted]

But were NWA really gangsters? Or were they just jerking off.

[F*ck Fear]

Well if you look at NWA. I don't think Ice Cube is so gangster anymore either. He does family movies for fuck sakes.

[shootingstar]

Wow, some of you guys are really getting bent out of shape.

Seriously, who's a more valid judge of the harshness of Axl's life? A bunch of rock fans who hold AFD up as some sacred golden calf, or Axl himself?

Some people just can't take criticism of the image of GNR... And if anyone's got a valid opinion on the subject, it's Axl himself.

GNR were looked at as the "Don't give a fuck" band. A dangerous band, and now Axl is shitting on that legacy by saying...."we were white boy posers" and we shouldn't wonder about it and be pissed?

Axl was a poser, that was obvious. He should speak for himself instead of the band.

That "don´t give a fuck"-attitude was just a simple teenage act by a gruop of people who got famous because of their great but badass music and style.

And I´m pretty sure that Axl´s aware of the fact that the former members living in the same timeline as himself, and therefore have growned in the same timedirection-forward.

I think it´s pretty normal that when a 44-year old man looking back on his life he questioning some of his earlier acts. Don´t you think S&D do the same?

And Axl havn´t speaked "for" them. He just speaked about his current view on people in the past. Not FOR them back then nor today.

[Funeral]

I think the main holdup with this record is not that Axl is worried about throwing a brick...I think he just changes his mind so damn much...jumping from one trend to the next and tinkering endlessly with his songs in the studio...

I also don't understand his comment about "white boy posers"...just because the NWA life in the hood involved getting shot on the streets doesn't somehow take away the credibility of guys like Slash and Axl who lived in a one-room shack writing songs on pizza boxes and got strung out to the point of near-death on the streets of LA. Seriously...ain't nothing about appetite era GnR that would qualify as poserish. Even their critics knew they were the real deal. What Axl is saying in that article is bullshit.

Dirty Deeds: Right on...

Oh My Gwad he said Slash was a poser?

[SylvesterStallone]

I think the main holdup with this record is not that Axl is worried about throwing a brick...I think he just changes his mind so damn much...jumping from one trend to the next and tinkering endlessly with his songs in the studio...

I also don't understand his comment about "white boy posers"...just because the NWA life in the hood involved getting shot on the streets doesn't somehow take away the credibility of guys like Slash and Axl who lived in a one-room shack writing songs on pizza boxes and got strung out to the point of near-death on the streets of LA. Seriously...ain't nothing about appetite era GnR that would qualify as poserish. Even their critics knew they were the real deal. What Axl is saying in that article is bullshit.

Dirty Deeds: Right on...

Oh My Gwad he said Slash was a poser?

Yes...and afterwards he called himself one...

Funral do you even think before you post?

[evil_l]

I think it was a nice little interview. It seems that Axl's got some perspective, finally. I'm just hoping that he stays true to his promise to deliver CD before the end of the year.

[Kesseli]

The truly annoying thing was what he said about the VMA '02 performance. "Catastrophy", but why? No, Axl, it wasn't the whole band's fault. The band was FANTASTIC that night. Everything worked, except Axl himself.

did he actually blame the band? or you r just assuming he did;

[Funeral]

I think this site has too many pussy's posting on it.

more like Mulletheads who live in a fantasy world

Axl was right.....compare to NWA boys, GNR looked like a wannabees for sure ...or any other white boy bands! I give credit to Axl though....he was trying to be a bad ass...he was a bad ass in the 80's!

[SylvesterStallone]

I think the real subtext behind Axl's statement is obvious...he desperately wants to be a homie. The braids, the jerseys, having Shaq freestyle during the recording sessions...it all makes sense now...

[sweetness]

I think the real subtext behind Axl's statement is obvious...he desperately wants to be a homie. The braids, the jerseys, having Shaq freestyle during the recording sessions...it all makes sense now...

Good point

I think Axl's statement was pretty fucking stupid, its not about what lifestyle is 'harder'

But with that comment its pretty clear that mattered to him, wich is kind of a shame because he had a pretty rough life growing up too... does that mean he was proud to have gone through such shit? How cool, sounds like something a wankster would say.