mike bibby Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 QUOTER.E.M., Van Halen, Stooges, Grandmaster Flash Top Rock Hall NomineesPatti Smith, Ronettes, Chic, Dave Clark Five, Joe Tex also on list. by Gil KaufmanThe dawn of the 1980s is upon the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, as R.E.M. are among the nine acts on the ballot for induction this year. Joining them are Van Halen, the Stooges, Patti Smith, the Dave Clark Five and hip-hop legends Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five.The induction, to be held March 12 at the Waldorf-Astoria in New York, will honor five artists from this year's list, which also includes singer Joe Tex and girl group the Ronettes. To be eligible for induction this year, an artist had to have released their first single no later than 1981. R.E.M., the Ronettes and Van Halen are this year's only first-time nominees (see "So How Do You Get Into The Rock Hall of Fame?").Led by Eddie Van Halen's signature fleet-fingered guitar riffs and singer David Lee Roth's wild stage antics, Van Halen were one of the biggest hard-rock bands of the '80s. With such signature hits as "Panama," "Hot for Teacher," "Jamie's Cryin'," "Runnin' With the Devil" and "Jump," the group released a string of hit albums — selling more than 56 million LPs in the U.S. alone —beginning in 1978 until its split with Roth in 1985. He was replaced by former solo star Sammy Hagar, who, in turn, was succeeded by ex-Extreme singer Gary Cherone.With one of the most instantly identifiable sounds in all of rock and roll, R.E.M. are the trailblazers of the early '80s indie-rock scene in America. From singer Michael Stipe's poetic, sometimes inscrutable lyrics to guitarist Peter Buck's jangly riffs, the group has created a string of indelible hits from its very first in 1981, "Radio Free Europe," through "Can't Get There From Here," "The One I Love," "It's The End of the World as We Know It (and I Feel Fine)" and "Man on the Moon."Detroit's Stooges are widely considered to be the prototypes for punk. The group — led by unhinged singer Iggy Pop — blurred the lines between raw blues, psychedelia and garage rock on such signature songs as "Raw Power" and "I Wanna Be Your Dog," influencing everyone from the Ramones to Nirvana along the way.If the Stooges are the godfathers of punk, then Patti Smith is definitely the godmother. A poet and mesmerizing live performer, Smith was one of the early fixtures at the now-defunct New York mecca of punk, CBGB, in the mid-1970s (see "Flea Jams With Patti Smith, Punks Weep At CBGB's Last-Ever Show"). She has continued to perform and record topical, emotionally charged music. When it comes to influence, few hip-hop acts carry as much weight as New York's Grandmaster Flash & the Furious Five. Led by Flash, one of the most innovative turntable artists in the early years of hip-hop, the group was anchored by Flash's inventive turntable manipulation and such legendary street tales as "The Message" and the anti-drug rap "White Lines."Led by funk masters Nile Rodgers and the late Bernard Edwards, Chic were one of the hardest-working disco bands of the late '70s. With such hits as "Dance, Dance, Dance (Yowsah, Yowsah, Yowsah)," "Le Freak" and "Good Times," the duo of Rodgers and Edwards created some of the funkiest and most frequently sampled songs ("Good Times" was the basis for "Rapper's Delight" by the Sugarhill Gang) from an era of largely forgotten tunes.Also nominated is one of the most popular bands from the British Invasion of the mid-1960s, the Dave Clark Five, who rivaled the Beatles in popularity at the time thanks to hits like "Glad All Over." Girl group the Ronettes — led by Ronnie Spector and known for such mid-1960s hits as "Be My Baby" and "Baby, I Love You" — and 1960s soul singer Joe Tex, best known for his 1965 hit "Hold What You've Got," are also nominated.The five inductees will be announced in January. This report is provided by MTV News Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
december pain Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 woot! go VH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ohdistortedsmile1789 Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Joe Tex, alright! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevdo242 Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JONEZY Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Finally, Van Halen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swlabr Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Grand Master Flash! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBrownstone531 Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Good to see they're letting rappers and disco groups into the ROCK Hall of Fame, while Def Leppard and Alice Cooper still get fucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swlabr Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 (edited) Good to see they're letting rappers and disco groups into the ROCK Hall of Fame, while Def Leppard and Alice Cooper still get fucked.Maybe because these RAP and DISCO groups have had a much greater influence in the music world. Check the Inductees list. Not all the musicians played "rock." Edited October 30, 2006 by swlabr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucketslash Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Grand Master Flash!in the rock n' roll hall of fame?what's next, the beastie boys and zack de la roche solo?or, i know, lets put in korn and nickelback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swlabr Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Grand Master Flash!in the rock n' roll hall of fame?what's next, the beastie boys and zack de la roche solo?or, i know, lets put in korn and nickelbackWho's to say Van Halen should be inducted? It's all a matter of opinion and I think Grand Master Flash should be inducted. The last three bands you mentioned haven't been around long enough to be inducted anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny gnr Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Patti all the waySuch a poet-charismatic live singer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forsaken Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Grand Master Flash!in the rock n' roll hall of fame?what's next, the beastie boys and zack de la roche solo?or, i know, lets put in korn and nickelbackWho's to say Van Halen should be inducted? It's all a matter of opinion and I think Grand Master Flash should be inducted. The last three bands you mentioned haven't been around long enough to be inducted anyway.VH certainly deserved it more than Grand Master Flash. Look at their hits, look at what EVH did for guitarists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swlabr Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 (edited) Grand Master Flash!in the rock n' roll hall of fame?what's next, the beastie boys and zack de la roche solo?or, i know, lets put in korn and nickelbackWho's to say Van Halen should be inducted? It's all a matter of opinion and I think Grand Master Flash should be inducted. The last three bands you mentioned haven't been around long enough to be inducted anyway.VH certainly deserved it more than Grand Master Flash. Look at their hits, look at what EVH did for guitarists.Look at what Grand Master Flash did for a lot of rappers. If anything, he made rap into what it is today. Although I don't like mainstream rap, he did influence most of the rappers. This song: http://youtube.com/watch?v=JF7b1hdFiDM not only influenced an artform, but an entire culture. Edited October 30, 2006 by swlabr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBrownstone531 Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Good to see they're letting rappers and disco groups into the ROCK Hall of Fame, while Def Leppard and Alice Cooper still get fucked.Maybe because these RAP and DISCO groups have had a much greater influence in the music world. Check the Inductees list. Not all the musicians played "rock."You wanna talk influence? Def Leppard were one of the first pop metal groups to make it big, and like that music or not, it was the major force in music for almost a decade, and they were one of the reasons MTV took off in its early years. As for Alice Cooper, just look at any group that uses makeup or theatrics in their show (which is pretty much every group anymore) to see his influence (and I saw him a couple nights ago in Atlantic City...he's still got it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forsaken Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 (edited) Grand Master Flash!in the rock n' roll hall of fame?what's next, the beastie boys and zack de la roche solo?or, i know, lets put in korn and nickelbackWho's to say Van Halen should be inducted? It's all a matter of opinion and I think Grand Master Flash should be inducted. The last three bands you mentioned haven't been around long enough to be inducted anyway.VH certainly deserved it more than Grand Master Flash. Look at their hits, look at what EVH did for guitarists.Look at what Grand Master Flash did for a lot of rappers. If anything, he made rap into what it is today. Although I don't like mainstream rap, he did influence most of the rappers. This song: http://youtube.com/watch?v=JF7b1hdFiDM not only influenced an artform, but an entire culture.Exactly my point.Why is Grand Master Flash in the Rock N Roll HOF being rap artists?If they are in the Rock n Roll HOF, what's next? LL Cool J? Edited October 30, 2006 by Forsaken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swlabr Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 Exactly my point.Why is Grand Master Flash in the Rock N Roll HOF being rap artists?If they are in the Rock n Roll HOF, what's next? LL Cool J?Why is Miles Davis, Aretha Franklin and Marvin Gaye in the Hall of Fame? It's not because they played RnR (because they didn't). Take a look at how they influenced the music industry and music itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackamo! Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 The "Scissor Sisters" will make the Rock N' Roll Hall Of Fame before "Guns N' Roses". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adnan Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 Good to see they're letting rappers and disco groups into the ROCK Hall of Fame, while Def Leppard and Alice Cooper still get fucked.I think it's criminal that a musician as sublime as Cooper hasn't gotten inducted yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNRrocks3 Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 Finally Van Halen's time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metallic ko Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 Saw this the other day, and only cared because the Stooges. Stooges have been eligible since 1994, and they're still not in. Frankly, Stooges are too good for the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame, and will probably only get in, when Iggy dies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucketslash Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 Exactly my point.Why is Grand Master Flash in the Rock N Roll HOF being rap artists?If they are in the Rock n Roll HOF, what's next? LL Cool J?Why is Miles Davis, Aretha Franklin and Marvin Gaye in the Hall of Fame? It's not because they played RnR (because they didn't). Take a look at how they influenced the music industry and music itself.Those 3 were huge building blocks toward rock n' roll, they layed down the feelings for singers, songwriters, and the like for years to comeGrand Master Flash couldn't influence a style that was already made, and did very little for rock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swlabr Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 Exactly my point.Why is Grand Master Flash in the Rock N Roll HOF being rap artists?If they are in the Rock n Roll HOF, what's next? LL Cool J?Why is Miles Davis, Aretha Franklin and Marvin Gaye in the Hall of Fame? It's not because they played RnR (because they didn't). Take a look at how they influenced the music industry and music itself.Those 3 were huge building blocks toward rock n' roll, they layed down the feelings for singers, songwriters, and the like for years to comeGrand Master Flash couldn't influence a style that was already made, and did very little for rockI know that the already mentioned three influenced rock. But what I'm saying is that it shouldn't be limited to rock musicians, contrary to its name. It should be open to any musician who has influenced music in whichever way. Grandmaster Flash has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucketslash Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 or maybe there should be a music hall of fame?i mean, if there was a rap music hall of fame, do you think kevin dubrow and kurt cobain would get met with lots of excitement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serg Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 Van Halen deserves it rock2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bucketslash Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 Van Halen deserves it rock2yep, specifically because eddie van halen has been a nice individual,with alot of good albums and has never stooped so low as to copy himself..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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