rockstar81 Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 (edited) I went to a newGN'R show and honnestly I think they don't need 3 players. 2 are enough. I will go with the Fiink/Fortus duet (no disrespect to bbf).With 2 guitar players, there would be more chemistry between them, it would work as a duet, the sound would be clearer (you would hear clearly each players), there would be less long solos etc... Edited November 12, 2006 by rockstar81 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnrfan4life3690 Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 nope so we should get rid of the wrost one for the worst always brings the band down...so lets say bye to Finck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackamo! Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 no but they need 2 keyboardists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen8R Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Nope, three guitarists are only needed when they are dones like Iron maiden. Both leads are either harmonizing or one isn;t playing while the other is.ByeBye Finck!A8R Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sandman Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Actually, Dizzy and Pittman usually synth in extra guitar. So yeah, it's necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.Q Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Nope, three guitarists are only needed when they are dones like Iron maiden. Both leads are either harmonizing or one isn;t playing while the other is.ByeBye Finck!A8RI second that.Finck........ mr.Q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manstis1604 Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Actually, Dizzy and Pittman usually synth in extra guitar. So yeah, it's necessary.So there could potentially be 4 fucking guitars going? That's never necessary, I'd be down with Finck and Fortus, Bumble must go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Actually, Dizzy and Pittman usually synth in extra guitar. So yeah, it's necessary.So there could potentially be 4 fucking guitars going? That's never necessary, I'd be down with Finck and Fortus, Bumble must go.Why? Bumble's more talented than either of them. I think three guitars is fine, no one complains at maiden for a three guitar attack, i think it's effective as each adds their own dynamic to the sound. Guns only needs two guitars but three makes them shine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manstis1604 Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Actually, Dizzy and Pittman usually synth in extra guitar. So yeah, it's necessary.So there could potentially be 4 fucking guitars going? That's never necessary, I'd be down with Finck and Fortus, Bumble must go.Why? Bumble's more talented than either of them. I think three guitars is fine, no one complains at maiden for a three guitar attack, i think it's effective as each adds their own dynamic to the sound. Guns only needs two guitars but three makes them shine.I just hate Bumblefoots style, he's one of those mindless freakout shredder types and has no taste or ear for development or anything. I like Finck because he's got soul even though he fucks up sometimes, and Fortus is just a really solid rock gutiarist. I'd say those two guitarists, and get rid of Dizzy and keep Pitman, this band would be a lot better off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saulhudson88 Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 no,bumblefoot has to fuck off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianD Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Finck should fuck off. He stinks. At times he sounds great, but he is generally fucking sloppy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Actually, Dizzy and Pittman usually synth in extra guitar. So yeah, it's necessary.So there could potentially be 4 fucking guitars going? That's never necessary, I'd be down with Finck and Fortus, Bumble must go.Why? Bumble's more talented than either of them. I think three guitars is fine, no one complains at maiden for a three guitar attack, i think it's effective as each adds their own dynamic to the sound. Guns only needs two guitars but three makes them shine.I just hate Bumblefoots style, he's one of those mindless freakout shredder types and has no taste or ear for development or anything. I like Finck because he's got soul even though he fucks up sometimes, and Fortus is just a really solid rock gutiarist. I'd say those two guitarists, and get rid of Dizzy and keep Pitman, this band would be a lot better off.Hmm Bumblefoot's saving grace is the diversity of styles he can play in. Shred isn't mindless, it's the most difficult style of lead guitar to master. People who call it "Mindless" are just jealous because they can't shred so they put it down. Ron's admired by Joe Satriani..... got to count for something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solidius Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 No need for three guitarists. They could drop Finck without needing a replacement for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianD Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 I've seen Ron enough times in GNR and non GNR shows now that I know that he is the most versatile player the band has... his presence should be anough to eliminate a third player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.drummin Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 How much do GNR rock live? Three guitarists is the only way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohyesindeed Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 no band needs 3 guitar players.2 is more than enough. 1 keyboard is enough.but hey, if axl wants three guitarists, he can have 'em. it is distracting though:3 guitarists exchanging solos while bombs go off and axl leaves the stage for a breather kind of leaves you with a "huh?" vibe. also, it's hard to really get into one guitarist when there's 3 of them....it kinda leaves the whole guitar experience spread thin....i think it's better to just focus one rhythm and one lead.as great as bbf is, i'm just not into that type of playing, so he would be the odd man out to me if axl were to say "hey. you. get rid of one of these guys." after that, let finck play 2nd fiddle to fortus.fortus is the best player in the band. he should wear a shirt that says "watch for falling badass". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssiscool Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 not really get rid of Fink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Little_Patience Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Ron pretty much made the show last night at MSG with his playing he adds so much. 3 guitarists adds tons of depth being that they arent playing heavily distorted metal in which the disotrtion adds the depth, they do need that 3rd guy. And Finck has the stage presence and does more interacting with the fans than Axl actually does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingstar Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Nope, three guitarists are only needed when they are dones like Iron maiden. Both leads are either harmonizing or one isn;t playing while the other is.ByeBye Finck!A8RI second that.Finck........ mr.QI LOVE Finck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dobadog Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 (edited) Reading this thread with all the "fuck off's" has made me laugh. Either way you look at it, you can't have the old Guns N'Roses back, and you'll have to take the new line up for what they are, or go and like other bands. To all the people that dislike Robin, sure he is different (not better, not worse) than Slash, but he is (now that Buckethead has quit Guns) my farourite member of the new line up. I don't really care much for Tommy Stintion or Bumble Foot. Dizzy Reed's doing a good job, but he could be replaced with ease at any time and the same goes for the drummer(s). I'm pretty neutral where Chris Pittman is concerned. Sure he is adding a layer of weird and wonderful sound fx to Guns N'Roses. He could probably add something extra to the old back catalogue of Guns N'Roses tracks, but does Guns N'Roses need the electronic synth sounds? Edited November 11, 2006 by dobadog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KBear Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 (edited) Honestly, as much as Finck can drive me nuts with his crappy soloing and silly looking movements on stage, you can't get rid of him because from what we know the man is key to writing new material. And his contributions to the new songs are very good. Finck could only be replaced if someone like Slash comes in - and guess what, that's not happening.Bumblefoot cannot be replaced because he handles the solos Bucket created. They fucking rock and must stay, so unless you want to bring Bucket back (who doesn't want to), BBF stays. He's a pleasure to watch, his Don't Cry solo is fantastic and is really the only solo played that I care about.Fortus would be the most expendable. BBF could handle all the solos while Finck plays rhythm. Or, when Finck leads, BBF does rhythm. You can't choose your favourites when you make this type of call. You need to look at what is unique that each guitarist brings to the table. Fortus doesn't bring anything that they can't do without (unless he has a large role in writing new material that we don't know about). What Fortus does well is that he's a very efficient player. He certainly doesn't hurt the band.But the whole point is moot anyways since the way they have written the songs and they sound they want to achieve calls for three guitarists. Nobody is going anywhere, at least for now. Edited November 11, 2006 by KBear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianD Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 I don't want the old Guns back... I want Ron to play all of the leads. I'm more than happy with Ron in GNR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manstis1604 Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 Actually, Dizzy and Pittman usually synth in extra guitar. So yeah, it's necessary.So there could potentially be 4 fucking guitars going? That's never necessary, I'd be down with Finck and Fortus, Bumble must go.Why? Bumble's more talented than either of them. I think three guitars is fine, no one complains at maiden for a three guitar attack, i think it's effective as each adds their own dynamic to the sound. Guns only needs two guitars but three makes them shine.I just hate Bumblefoots style, he's one of those mindless freakout shredder types and has no taste or ear for development or anything. I like Finck because he's got soul even though he fucks up sometimes, and Fortus is just a really solid rock gutiarist. I'd say those two guitarists, and get rid of Dizzy and keep Pitman, this band would be a lot better off.Hmm Bumblefoot's saving grace is the diversity of styles he can play in. Shred isn't mindless, it's the most difficult style of lead guitar to master. People who call it "Mindless" are just jealous because they can't shred so they put it down. Ron's admired by Joe Satriani..... got to count for something.I can play fast but I wouldn't say I can shred, but I could learn if I want. I just choose not to, because its lame and serves no purpose other than "hey, look what I can do!!!" Its not about how many notes you can play in a short amount of time, its what you're saying with the notes. I couldn't be less jealous of shred guitarists, honestly. In fact I kind of pity them, I feel like they're missing out on what music is about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetness Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 No, not at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axl2002 Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 No !! I bet if there were only 2 guitars you couldn`t even hear the difference. But hey it`s Axl bandif he wants to have 3 guys on the keyboards, 2 drummers or 5 girls who play bongos onstage it will happen. For me 5 People in a band is enough likethe original gnr was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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