Rainman Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Good and will go platinum. If overall better than the leaks, then several times over platinum and AXL is officially back in the media's eyes.Thanks,Rainman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 If the leaks are the best they have to offer, then no. Not impressed... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invisible_rose Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Better is a stunning track - simply put its great. Matches up to anything of the other albums. The other tracks are good.It would be a shame if we'd heard the "big guns". Not because these tracks are poor, they aren't, but because we want to put CD on and be blown away - not disappointed by already hearing the best tracks.It will be a very different album to Contraband - unfair to compare - but it's clear why people will.I think if we judge them then Contraband for me was a 6 overall. No one track really stood out other than maybe fail to pieces which I'd give a 7 or 8. But for me Better is a 8.5 or 9 out of 10 track. Twat probably 7 or 8. IRS the same and Catcher again 7 - 8. This shouldn't be a VR thread - but they do have, as said, waaaaaaay more potential than Contraband. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welcome to the Jungle Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Judging by the leaks Chinese Democracy is gonna kick VR's new record right in the nuts lol.Chinese Democracy starts......................soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rd Wheel Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 the only leak that has any chance to stand the test of time and be loved by fans 10-15 years from now is Catcher in the rye. Better is a good idea gone bad, TWAT is decent, and IRS will be as forgotten as Nice Boys. The Blues and Madagascar are the only other songs that we have an idea of what they will sound like that can compete with Catcher. Good album...but nothing close to AFD, Lies, or Illusions. A notch better than Contraband. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estranged Reality Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 I think they touch on brilliance with the new songs, and even their whole act in 2002 was quite revolutionary, but overall these tracks really aren't "the best" ever. The outro of TWAT is amazing but the intro is messy. Better is cool but really, I think it tends to be overrated here. IRS is a nice rocker, but it isn't mindblowing. Neither is Rhiad.The Blues is the best thing they've done that we've heard so far, and I think a studio track of that song alone is worth the wait - for me. Most other people probably won't feel that way, but I love that song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D-GenerationX Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 the only leak that has any chance to stand the test of time and be loved by fans 10-15 years from now is Catcher in the rye. Better is a good idea gone bad, TWAT is decent, and IRS will be as forgotten as Nice Boys. The Blues and Madagascar are the only other songs that we have an idea of what they will sound like that can compete with Catcher. Good album...but nothing close to AFD, Lies, or Illusions. A notch better than Contraband.CITR is a train wreck.Its liek three separate idea force fitted together and trying WAY to hard to be an anthem at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Axl Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Let´s say that those leaks we´ve heard represent the standard of CD, would it fulfill your expectations? Would you explain Axls work as an success or an flop?I liked the demoes from the first time ive heard em, so yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graeme Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 the only leak that has any chance to stand the test of time and be loved by fans 10-15 years from now is Catcher in the rye. Better is a good idea gone bad, TWAT is decent, and IRS will be as forgotten as Nice Boys. The Blues and Madagascar are the only other songs that we have an idea of what they will sound like that can compete with Catcher. Good album...but nothing close to AFD, Lies, or Illusions. A notch better than Contraband.CITR is a train wreck.Its liek three separate idea force fitted together and trying WAY to hard to be an anthem at the end.I love CITR as of the first listen, the rest of the songs are good too but it's just stunning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunoze Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Good songs, but its never going to be the best album GNR have produced. Certainly not in my book anyway. I lean towards the old days of GNR being bordering on a punk rock band. Songs like 'Its so Easy' still blow me away, its my 'taste' and style. I cant see me going mental to songs like Madagascar. It doesnt have enough power for me.But since GNR are now a soft pop rock band, then songs like CITR and The Blues suit their image. Axl has grown older and wiser, and has lost that rebelious edge that I used to adore. He also doesnt have the punk influence Duff heavily put on the band. This is what is lacking in my opinion. None of them have that crazy 'dont give a fuck' attitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCGNR Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 I have always loved the leaks so there'd be no problems for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rd Wheel Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 the only leak that has any chance to stand the test of time and be loved by fans 10-15 years from now is Catcher in the rye. Better is a good idea gone bad, TWAT is decent, and IRS will be as forgotten as Nice Boys. The Blues and Madagascar are the only other songs that we have an idea of what they will sound like that can compete with Catcher. Good album...but nothing close to AFD, Lies, or Illusions. A notch better than Contraband.CITR is a train wreck.Its liek three separate idea force fitted together and trying WAY to hard to be an anthem at the end.agree to disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worldwideboss Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 the only leak that has any chance to stand the test of time and be loved by fans 10-15 years from now is Catcher in the rye. Better is a good idea gone bad, TWAT is decent, and IRS will be as forgotten as Nice Boys. The Blues and Madagascar are the only other songs that we have an idea of what they will sound like that can compete with Catcher. Good album...but nothing close to AFD, Lies, or Illusions. A notch better than Contraband.Better is not a good idea gone bad. It's actually one of the best things I have heard this millenium.I.R.S. is a fantastic rocker, but it won't appeal to the masses. I do think, however, it has the potential to become well known among the fans.As for There Was A Time, the outro is pure brilliance. The whole song is great, but that last solo is just undescribable.The Blues and Madagscar are good. Not the best, but very good slow songs from a rock band.Catcher In The Rye's demo is a mess. The idea might have been good, but I don't think it really worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
F*ck Fear Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Good, but not earth-shattering. A bit bloated.Not as good as Contraband. Good one.I think it will be great, judging from the songs I've heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rd Wheel Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 :xmasssanta: the only leak that has any chance to stand the test of time and be loved by fans 10-15 years from now is Catcher in the rye. Better is a good idea gone bad, TWAT is decent, and IRS will be as forgotten as Nice Boys. The Blues and Madagascar are the only other songs that we have an idea of what they will sound like that can compete with Catcher. Good album...but nothing close to AFD, Lies, or Illusions. A notch better than Contraband.Better is not a good idea gone bad. It's actually one of the best things I have heard this millenium.I.R.S. is a fantastic rocker, but it won't appeal to the masses. I do think, however, it has the potential to become well known among the fans.As for There Was A Time, the outro is pure brilliance. The whole song is great, but that last solo is just undescribable.The Blues and Madagscar are good. Not the best, but very good slow songs from a rock band.Catcher In The Rye's demo is a mess. The idea might have been good, but I don't think it really worked.agree...................to disagreeeee!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sekh-met Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 I love the leaks so I sure wont be dissapointed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bucketbot101 Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Let´s say that those leaks we´ve heard represent the standard of CD, would it fulfill your expectations? Would you explain Axls work as an success or an flop?Id be pleased! Cos when i first heard the leaks i nearly creamed in my pants. and i still listen to them all the time! But you know theres gonna be some fuckin gems on CD the best is yet to come! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridin' the Nightrain Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Leaks are average at very best.TWAT solo is the only impressive thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootingstar Posted November 29, 2006 Author Share Posted November 29, 2006 Better is not a good idea gone bad. It's actually one of the best things I have heard this millenium.I.R.S. is a fantastic rocker, but it won't appeal to the masses. I do think, however, it has the potential to become well known among the fans.As for There Was A Time, the outro is pure brilliance. The whole song is great, but that last solo is just undescribable.The Blues and Madagscar are good. Not the best, but very good slow songs from a rock band.Catcher In The Rye's demo is a mess. The idea might have been good, but I don't think it really worked.Couldn´t agree more, except from The Blues. I think that song is clearly the best of the epics Guns produced EVER. Not as overproduced as NR, more raw but still polished of course(it´s Axl). Axls voice got more space in the sound compared to songs like NR or Estranged where the violins take out his charismatic voice somehow. In The Blues His voice take the lead and not just follow the music.I.R.S is for me as a gunner already a classic. So I just have to agree with you. But all songs can´t be mainstream and radiofriendly. I think it´s genious to have songs you need to listen to and don´t get it, give it a break, listen to it again and still don´t get it. But after a while u suddenly got a huge need for that song. That is those songs that create new fans I guess and keep the interest in the band. Those radiofriendly song are the ones who have the purpouse to "fool" people to get attention to the band. I started listen to guns when I was about 10. I only listened to all the epics, sweet child and Mr. brownstone. Now I preffer listen to songs like Dead Horse, Don´t Damn Me Anything Goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worldwideboss Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Couldn´t agree more, except from The Blues. I think that song is clearly the best of the epics Guns produced EVER. Not as overproduced as NR, more raw but still polished of course(it´s Axl). Axls voice got more space in the sound compared to songs like NR or Estranged where the violins take out his charismatic voice somehow. In The Blues His voice take the lead and not just follow the music.Yeah, The Blues is a very good song. I actually prefer it a good deal over Madagascar. I only said that because I like GN'R more for its rocking side.I once said The Blues was better than November Rain and got flamed for it. But, no matter what, I agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dory Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 Without a shadow of a doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pain_Train_99 Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 it'd be a flop, unless every song was as good as better is, after this many years it could be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vogstar90_G'N'R Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 ofcourse i love most of the leaks already. they grow on you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let And Let Live Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 All of the songs i love, so judging by what we have so far - CD will be a truly amazing album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepsicoca Posted November 29, 2006 Share Posted November 29, 2006 They sound quite good at home. But played live... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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