GabrielsChains Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 (edited) Holy shit! And a couple years ago they renamed the venue the "Gibson Amphitheatre"! And GN'R play GIBSON GUITARS!IT MUST BE TRUE! CHINESE DEMOCRACY STARTS NOW!!!! Edited December 5, 2006 by GabrielsChains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon87 Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Can't see it, but my fingers are crossed.Well, the thing is, this makes sense in a way, and since nothing in GNR makes sense, it's already unrealistic again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leigh-Rok! Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Can't see it, but my fingers are crossed.Holy shit! And a couple years ago they renamed the venue the "Gibson Amphitheatre"! And GN'R play GIBSON GUITARS!IT MUST BE TRUE! CHINESE DEMOCRACY STARTS NOW!!!!Did you mean to quote me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GabrielsChains Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Can't see it, but my fingers are crossed.Holy shit! And a couple years ago they renamed the venue the "Gibson Amphitheatre"! And GN'R play GIBSON GUITARS!IT MUST BE TRUE! CHINESE DEMOCRACY STARTS NOW!!!!Did you mean to quote me?nope -- thanks for the heads up -- sorry bout that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Would Walk 500 Miles For CD Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 DECEMBER THE 18TH - CHINESE DEMOCRACY STARTS THENi basically believe the topic starters post because the Nov 21 and sep 13 were all rumours that were based on nothing apart from a rumour made by Rolling Stones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let And Let Live Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 the 18th is the last throw of the dice for '06 so here's hoping.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GabrielsChains Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 They better come out with it, because they will loose a lot of respect, and the fans will probably never trust them again.Oh my god -- i certainly hope that never starts to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweetest_Child Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 a close to xmas date to me is perfect cus people spend money very impulsivly, i could see it being at record stores and flying off the shelf just cus its GNR and cds are the easiest thing to buy, a cd with GUNS N ROSES stamped on it would sell, especially if they had any promo poster or POP stuff... who knows, holiday shopping could help huge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bass71player Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Can't see it, but my fingers are crossed.Well, the thing is, this makes sense in a way, and since nothing in GNR makes sense, it's already unrealistic again... that's what being a fan has come to... debunking somewhat logical thinking with the rationale that anything logical is impossible with GNRlet's hope it happens! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Matt13 Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 these are just educated guesses.Damned good ones too. Be prepared however for this thread to fill up with idiots that will tell you you're out of your mind and pathetically holding on to unrealistic dreams because they're record company know-it-alls and they'll tell you it's impossible for something to be released by the 18th. They'll post that just before they go to work as a 15 year old bus boy at a restaurant, or as a 25 year old unemployed loser typing away on mommy's computer:)I'm with you though!It all does make sense. And if it doesn't happen? Life will go on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick85 Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 these are just educated guesses.Damned good ones too. Be prepared however for this thread to fill up with idiots that will tell you you're out of your mind and pathetically holding on to unrealistic dreams because they're record company know-it-alls and they'll tell you it's impossible for something to be released by the 18th. They'll post that just before they go to work as a 15 year old bus boy at a restaurant, or as a 25 year old unemployed loser typing away on mommy's computer:)I'm with you though!It all does make sense. And if it doesn't happen? Life will go on.Hahahaha.....thanks Matt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlCorp Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 I hope so. but unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick85 Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 (edited) a close to xmas date to me is perfect cus people spend money very impulsivly, i could see it being at record stores and flying off the shelf just cus its GNR and cds are the easiest thing to buy, a cd with GUNS N ROSES stamped on it would sell, especially if they had any promo poster or POP stuff... who knows, holiday shopping could help hugeExactly...The one thing that confuses me still, however, is what happened with the Harley add. Jarmo stated that someone "jumped the gun" at Harley...I bet they used the demo thinking it was the same as the album version after making a deal with GNR to use it once the album was released. Makes sense cuz lets be honest, there was no difference from the one they used and the demo we all have heard. All things considered, Im still gunning for the 18th. Edited December 5, 2006 by sofine11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnEskimo Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 A Theory is a theory, and that is all there is to it. It would be very awesome if this was true, and you make some very good points, but it's impossible to know until Decemeber 18th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlCorp Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Imagine the replication of a cd this big being released without any promotions.CNN would even report on it. I think they would get a bigger bang for their buck by doing it this way. It's risky but eh...could work.If it was your record company and your money on the line...would you risk it? I don't think I would and therefore I have to think they wouldn't either. I think it has been delayed to '07. hope i'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris 55 Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 It's just real weird. I thought I'd have the allbum in my hands by now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justagroupie Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 (edited) It's just real weird. I thought I'd have the allbum in my hands by nowI think we all did. But what you said Sofine makes sense and I'm really hoping for this. Edited December 5, 2006 by Justagroupie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssiscool Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 expect the un-expected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnfnr2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 (edited) Sounds good to me, but I am still awaiting an answer from my Magic 8 Ball. With only 5 or 6 answers, its got pretty good odds. *EDIT* Oh wait! That wasnt supposed to be there. That was a leaked quote from Axl when asked about the release date. OMG I hope they dont find out !! Edited December 5, 2006 by gnfnr2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edward Rose Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 these are just educated guesses.Damned good (guesses) too. Be prepared however for this thread to fill up with idiots that will tell you you're out of your mind and pathetically holding on to unrealistic dreams because they're record company know-it-alls and they'll tell you it's impossible for something to be released by the 18th. They'll post that just before they go to work as a 15 year old bus boy at a restaurant, or as a 25 year old unemployed loser typing away on mommy's computer:)I'm with you though!It all does make sense. And if it doesn't happen? Life will go on.That's frigin' hilarious.And I agree with the other poster, the only thing that doesn't make sense is the Harley ad. But then again, because it (Better version) never went public, there's any number of things that can go wrong with advertising deals that have nothing to do with a band releasing an album. For all we know, Harley could have pulled a Corporate Scum thing, and didn't want to pay the amount of $ asked for by Guns management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCGNR Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 It's not going to be in December - I f*cking told you people it was March!Sincerely,Slash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AxlCorp Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 (edited) It's not going to be in December - I f*cking told you people it was March!Sincerely,SlashYou sure told us. We bow down to your knowledge. You are our leader. - VR Fan Edited December 5, 2006 by AxlCorp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edward Rose Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 It's not going to be in December - I f*cking told you people it was March!Sincerely,SlashThank you for fulfilling Matt's prophecy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Matt13 Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 Imagine the replication of a cd this big being released without any promotions.CNN would even report on it. I think they would get a bigger bang for their buck by doing it this way. It's risky but eh...could work.If it was your record company and your money on the line...would you risk it? I don't think I would and therefore I have to think they wouldn't either. I think it has been delayed to '07. hope i'm wrong.Well, that's just it. It makes total sense because if the album speaks for itself and people like the music, it really doesn't matter how much promotion you give the thing before hand. Sure, serious promotion might get you in the #1 spot and have a huge opening couple weeks of sales, but if you can sacrifice that within a year sales would level out anyway. More people will be buying it a month after its release if it's good instead of buying it right away with a ton of promotion.Look at UYI's. Do you think cumulative sales figures of those albums today would be any different if they didn't promote it at all to begin with? They'd be about the same because the albums were good. Now... if an album sucks... you need to give it a ton of promotion to get people to blindly buy it real quick so you can make a cash grab... ha.By all accounts, CD is going to be better than your average rock album. So open promotion for it doesn't really matter. Like I've said all along... and as other people have pointed out... the things already promoting itself. Everyone knows about it in the music world. It's like Howard Hughes' 'Grey Goose' flying boat. Who isn't going to go down to the harbor to see that thing fly for the first time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Edward Rose Posted December 5, 2006 Share Posted December 5, 2006 (edited) Matt13-By all accounts, CD is going to be better than your average rock album. So open promotion for it doesn't really matter. That's why the "Impossible without promo" people have no clue. "Clerks" had NO PROMO! Edited December 5, 2006 by Edward Rose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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