Estranged Reality Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 As a lyricist he's on par with Dylan.As a vocalist he's superior.His vocals are an acquired taste. You either love them or hate them. One person described them as "Springsteen having a seizure." I love him.He experiments with so many different genres, and was fooling around with industrial before Trent Reznor even started recording and before, indeed, it even had a name. His new albums ORPHANS is genius. Pure genius. Some of his best work - ever.Pick it up. It's worth the fifty bucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankwhite Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 As a lyricist he's on par with Dylan.As a vocalist he's superior.His vocals are an acquired taste. You either love them or hate them. One person described them as "Springsteen having a seizure." I love him.He experiments with so many different genres, and was fooling around with industrial before Trent Reznor even started recording and before, indeed, it even had a name. His new albums ORPHANS is genius. Pure genius. Some of his best work - ever.Pick it up. It's worth the fifty bucks.my favorite waits album is nighthawks at the diner, but i love him in general. i have every album n every movie he's in too (talk about ur stalkers ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estranged Reality Posted December 6, 2006 Author Share Posted December 6, 2006 As a lyricist he's on par with Dylan.As a vocalist he's superior.His vocals are an acquired taste. You either love them or hate them. One person described them as "Springsteen having a seizure." I love him.He experiments with so many different genres, and was fooling around with industrial before Trent Reznor even started recording and before, indeed, it even had a name. His new albums ORPHANS is genius. Pure genius. Some of his best work - ever.Pick it up. It's worth the fifty bucks.my favorite waits album is nighthawks at the diner, but i love him in general. i have every album n every movie he's in too (talk about ur stalkers )I've been meaning to buy Down By Luck. Is it any good?I saw his cameo in The Fisher King the other day. Brilliant movie! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankwhite Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 As a lyricist he's on par with Dylan.As a vocalist he's superior.His vocals are an acquired taste. You either love them or hate them. One person described them as "Springsteen having a seizure." I love him.He experiments with so many different genres, and was fooling around with industrial before Trent Reznor even started recording and before, indeed, it even had a name. His new albums ORPHANS is genius. Pure genius. Some of his best work - ever.Pick it up. It's worth the fifty bucks.my favorite waits album is nighthawks at the diner, but i love him in general. i have every album n every movie he's in too (talk about ur stalkers )I've been meaning to buy Down By Luck. Is it any good?I saw his cameo in The Fisher King the other day. Brilliant movie!down by law, n it is HILAIRIOUS!!!!! it really is!!! i reccomend any of Jim Jarmusches movies but that particular one is great!!! it REALLY is!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adnan Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Certainly not on par with Dylan, Young, or Springsteen, but he's right up there, for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estranged Reality Posted December 6, 2006 Author Share Posted December 6, 2006 (edited) Certainly not on par with Dylan, Young, or Springsteen, but he's right up there, for sure.I think he's far better than Springsteen.And I do honestly think he's on par with Dylan.It's dreamy weather we're onYou waved your crooked wandAlong an icy pond with a frozen moonA murder of silhouette crows I sawAnd the tears on my faceAnd the skates on the pondThey spell AliceI disappear in your nameBut you must wait for meSomewhere across the seaThere's a wreck of a shipYour hair is like meadow grass on the tideAnd the raindrops on my windowAnd the ice in my drinkBaby all I can think of is AliceArithmetic arithmetockTurn the hands back on the clockHow does the ocean rock the boat?How did the razor find my throat?The only strings that hold me hereAre tangled up around the pierAnd so a secret kissBrings madness with the blissAnd I will think of thisWhen I'm dead in my graveSet me adrift and I'm lost over thereAnd I must be insaneTo go skating on your nameAnd by tracing it twiceI fell through the iceOf AliceAnd so a secret kissBrings madness with the blissAnd I will think of thisWhen I'm dead in my graveSet me adrift and I'm lost over thereAnd I must be insaneTo go skating on your nameAnd by tracing it twiceI fell through the iceOf AliceThere's only AliceLittle black girl in a red dressOn a hot night with a broken shoeLittle black girl you shoulda never left homeTheres probly someone thats still waitin up for youIts cold back in chicagoBut in los angeles its worseWhen all you got is $29.00 and an alligator purseI see already that vulture in the fleetwoodWith the shartruse hoodCan see youre trying to get your bearingsAnd you say hey which ways the main stemAnd where ever you say youre fromHell say he grew up there himselfAnd hell comeon and make you feelLike you grew up right next door to himAnd you say take a left on centralAnd he throws it in reverseCause you only got $29.00 and an alligator purseAnd hell come on like a gentlemanAnd youll be a little shyYou say your ex old man was a sax playerHell say baby I used to play bass for slyAnd you say you like his cadillac, say honey I got 2 or 3Hell say sweetheart youre sure fortunateThat you ran into meWhen youve done a dime in the jointYou figure nothin could be worseAnd you got $29.00 in an alligator purseWell he got pharoh on the 8 trackYou start smokin a little booYou thinkin gettin out of chicago was theBest thing ever happened to youBut he aint no good samaritanHell make sure hes reimbursedLot more than $29.00 and an alligator purseNow the sirens just an epilogThe cops always get there to lateThey always stop for coffee on the way to the scene of theCrimeThey always try so hard to look like movie starsThey couldnt catch a coldYou only wasting your dimeAnd shes lucky to be aliveThe doctor whispered to the nurseShe only lost a 1/2 pint of blood$29.00 and an alligator purseWell, Jesus will be hereBe here soonhe's gonna cover us up with leavesWith a blanket from the moonWith a promise and a vowAnd a lullaby for my browJesus gonna be hereBe here soonWell I'm just gonna wait hereI don't have to shoutI have no reason andI have no doubtI'm gonna get myselfUnfurled from this mortal coiled up worldBecause Jesus gonna be hereBe here soonI got to keep my eyes openSo I can see my LordI'm gonna watch the horizonFor a brand new FordI can hear him rolling on down the laneI said Hollywood be thy nameJesus gonna beGonna be here soonWell I've been faithfulAnd I've been so goodExcept for drinkingBut he new that I wouldI'm gonna leave this place betterThan the way I found it wasAnd Jesus gonna be hereBe here soonWell my time went so quickly, I went lickety-splickly out to my old '55As I drove away slowly, feeling so holy, God knows, I was feeling alive.Now the sun's coming up, I'm riding with Lady Luck, freeway cars and trucks,Stars beginning to fade, and I lead the paradeJust a-wishing I'd stayed a little longer,Oh, Lord, let me tell you that the feeling's getting stronger.And it's six in the morning, gave me no warning; I had to be on my way.Well there's trucks all a-passing me, and the lights are all flashing,I'm on my way home from your place.And now the sun's coming up, I'm riding with Lady Luck, freeway cars and trucks,Stars beginning to fade, and I lead the paradeJust a-wishing I'd stayed a little longer,Oh, Lord, let me tell you that the feeling's getting stronger.And my time went so quickly, I went lickety-splickly out to my old '55As I pulled away slowly, feeling so holy, God knows, I was feeling alive.Now the sun's coming up, I'm riding with Lady Luck,Freeway cars and trucks, freeway cars and trucks, freeway cars and trucks... Edited December 6, 2006 by Estranged Reality Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adnan Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Well yeah, opinions and all that. Springsteen seems musically and lyrically superior to me. Tom Waits is great, no doubt. I'm not saying he isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shades Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 but springsteen is pop music.I never heard any Waits. Ill go find some Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adnan Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Springsteen is pop? Have you heard ANYTHING other than "Born in the U.S.A." or "Tunnel of Love"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ohdistortedsmile1789 Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 You're forgetting Morrissey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adnan Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Who's forgetting Morissey?I haven't listened to him in ages. I should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ohdistortedsmile1789 Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Who's forgetting Morissey?I haven't listened to him in ages. I should.All of you.Yes, you should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estranged Reality Posted December 6, 2006 Author Share Posted December 6, 2006 Who's forgetting Morissey?I haven't listened to him in ages. I should.All of you.Yes, you should.I still prefer Waits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adnan Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 To be honest, comparing great minds like Waits, Morrissey, Young, Springsteen, and Dylan is very hard to do. They're all nearly as good as each other, and unlike comparisons between Zeppelin and Cream for example, you can't debate it properly. It'll always come down to opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nameless_girl Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Thank you! This is what I've been saying for ages - Waits is most certainly on par with what is most commonly percieved to be the Holy Trinity of "confessional" songwriters: Dylan, Young, Springsteen (I still haven't really listened to Young, though, so I can't say much about how justified his place atop that pedestal is).Except that I'd definitely add the downright shamefully underrated Cohen to that list as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankwhite Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Thank you! This is what I've been saying for ages - Waits is most certainly on par with what is most commonly percieved to be the Holy Trinity of "confessional" songwriters: Dylan, Young, Springsteen (I still haven't really listened to Young, though, so I can't say much about how justified his place atop that pedestal is).Except that I'd definitely add the downright shamefully underrated Cohen to that list as well.he kicks ass. i think the song 'The Future' is the bestest social commentary ever. early shit rules too, although a lotta people find him very dreary. he's definietly a more accomplished/recognised poet than dylan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppelin Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Tom Waits is incredible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nameless_girl Posted December 6, 2006 Share Posted December 6, 2006 Except that I'd definitely add the downright shamefully underrated Cohen to that list as well.he kicks ass. i think the song 'The Future' is the bestest social commentary ever. early shit rules too, although a lotta people find him very dreary. he's definietly a more accomplished/recognised poet than dylan.I've always been of the opinion that his literary accomplishments, i.e. those of a poet but also novelist, exceed Dylan's or pretty much any other singer-songwriter's I can think of.I'm not as much a fan of his early period as I am of the "dark" era, though. Colloquially known as "if you wanted to kill yourself, this would be the music to do it to... or, if you hadn't intended on doing so, you will after listening to these songs." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightrain_Kid Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 Havnt heard enough of him to judge but what i have heard is very cool. Nick Cave is as good as anyone mentioned and Ryan Adams being the best contemporary songwriter out there surely deserves a place in such illustrious company Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worldwideboss Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 Dylan is a better songwriter, but there's no shame in being second to God himself. To Waits' credit, he is a very talented writer and a singer with a signature voice. Great artist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankwhite Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 Except that I'd definitely add the downright shamefully underrated Cohen to that list as well.he kicks ass. i think the song 'The Future' is the bestest social commentary ever. early shit rules too, although a lotta people find him very dreary. he's definietly a more accomplished/recognised poet than dylan.I've always been of the opinion that his literary accomplishments, i.e. those of a poet but also novelist, exceed Dylan's or pretty much any other singer-songwriter's I can think of.I'm not as much a fan of his early period as I am of the "dark" era, though. Colloquially known as "if you wanted to kill yourself, this would be the music to do it to... or, if you hadn't intended on doing so, you will after listening to these songs." aint a motherfucker that clocks that literary aspect tho...sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Flower Posted December 7, 2006 Share Posted December 7, 2006 Well, Jesus will be hereBe here soonhe's gonna cover us up with leavesWith a blanket from the moonWith a promise and a vowAnd a lullaby for my browJesus gonna be hereBe here soonWell I'm just gonna wait hereI don't have to shoutI have no reason andI have no doubtI'm gonna get myselfUnfurled from this mortal coiled up worldBecause Jesus gonna be hereBe here soonI got to keep my eyes openSo I can see my LordI'm gonna watch the horizonFor a brand new FordI can hear him rolling on down the laneI said Hollywood be thy nameJesus gonna beGonna be here soonWell I've been faithfulAnd I've been so goodExcept for drinkingBut he new that I wouldI'm gonna leave this place betterThan the way I found it wasAnd Jesus gonna be hereBe here soonIf you listened to that song without knowing who the artist is, you'd swear it was a by some old-time black bluesman. Not something from an album released in 1992.That's what I love about 'Bone Machine'. Every song has its own identity - it's like a host of different characters, each with their own short story. I often imagine the gruff, naive criminal that's hurtling along the highway in his Olds '88 when I listen to Goin' Out West. Or the toothless farmer picking at his banjo as he recalls a grisly crime in Murder In The Red Barn.That was my first Tom Waits album, and I love it.Since then I've also purchased 'Closing Time' and 'Blue Valentine', which are both completely different from 'Bone Machine', but equally great. Also 'Swordfishtrombones' and 'Rain Dogs', which I haven't clicked with as much yet.So, yeah, I'm still working my way though his mountains of material, but I'm really enjoying it. He's much more diverse and interesting than Dylan, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightrain_Kid Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 Im listening to Rain dogs as i type, i love this album Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worldwideboss Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 Im listening to Rain dogs as i type, i love this album Great record, although I prefer Closing Time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild_Child Posted December 8, 2006 Share Posted December 8, 2006 As good as Dylan? No.But this guy is damn good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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