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Why do people turn on the old members like Bucket and Brain?


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I don't like any of them. Drummer is the most replaceable position in any band. Unless your name is Bonham or Grohl, everyday could be your last.

then why does almost every band sound like a completely different animal when they get a new drummer?

i can hear the difference b/t brain and ferrer, and it's for the better. just like i could hear the difference b/t adler and sorum for the worse.

I never said they didn't sound different, but drummers are historically more prone to getting the ax.

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Well this simple. Frank owns the shit out of brain. I saw them in May (Brain) and in November (Ferrer). The drumming was more exciting to me with Ferrer. I thought Frank played better too. Im a guitarist but I know when a drummer is good and Brain was boring to me, in Guns. Plus i dont like him because of his "only for the money" comments. Frank is just an awesome cat. Hes the drummer for Guns N' Roses.

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I don't like any of them. Drummer is the most replaceable position in any band. Unless your name is Bonham or Grohl, everyday could be your last.

then why does almost every band sound like a completely different animal when they get a new drummer?

i can hear the difference b/t brain and ferrer, and it's for the better. just like i could hear the difference b/t adler and sorum for the worse.

I never said they didn't sound different, but drummers are historically more prone to getting the ax.

a-ha!

this is true......

drummes are also most prone to being whiny little bitches cause they dont make as much as songriters. once the guitarist and singer start showing up to practice in ferraris, the drummer gets mad. then the drummer quits so he can "start his own thing", or tries to bring tunes to the band, which results in him getting fired so he can sit an apartment forever eating corndogs and watching porn.

what was the last thing the drummer said bfore he was fired?

"i wrote some songs i think we should play...."

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Well this simple. Frank owns the shit out of brain. I saw them in May (Brain) and in November (Ferrer). The drumming was more exciting to me with Ferrer. I thought Frank played better too. Im a guitarist but I know when a drummer is good and Brain was boring to me, in Guns. Plus i dont like him because of his "only for the money" comments. Frank is just an awesome cat. Hes the drummer for Guns N' Roses.

when did brain ever say he was in it "only for the money"?

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Well this simple. Frank owns the shit out of brain. I saw them in May (Brain) and in November (Ferrer). The drumming was more exciting to me with Ferrer. I thought Frank played better too. Im a guitarist but I know when a drummer is good and Brain was boring to me, in Guns. Plus i dont like him because of his "only for the money" comments. Frank is just an awesome cat. Hes the drummer for Guns N' Roses.

when did brain ever say he was in it "only for the money"?

I can remember lots of quotes where brain said that. Anyone?

Sorry if i made that up, but i didnt

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to be honest, it sounds like he's screwing with the interviewer a little. repeating the same "get paid" crap. he is pretty ghetto.. watch his dvd, he's quite the dude. ive read a few other interviews with brain, and he's basically a smartass in all of them haha. he knows gnr is a big time gig, so why not have fun talking about it.

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If people turned on Slash, who is everything GnR stands for, then they will turn on anyone as long as it means they are sucking up to Axl.

I was just going to say if people would turn against all of the rest of the old band, why wouldn't they kick interim players like BH and Brain to the curb?

Ultimately, if you think AXL IS GNR(which you almost have to do if you want to treat this band as Guns) it's not going to matter to you who else fills out the lineup...

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I hated when Bucket was in the band - just a travelling circus act is all it made GNR into. Robin's old look was idiotic as well, and his new look is much more fitting. Now, I also have to admit that it is scarey when a guy can change his look that much - obviously he is/was a little confused somewhere along the line - your average person would never guess that was the same guy. As mentioned Bucket can play well, but he is a complete moron and looks even worse. I think I could even handle the bucket on his head, but wearing a damn facemask on stage all the time - get real, the guy was out to lunch trying to create a legendary image for himself. Ya, the bucket thing is sooooo cool, gimmie a break - who can take that seriously. The only reason someone would do that kind of crap is for attention - a real musician will just play and let that do the talking. Bumblfoot - I could care less if he comes or goes, just another filler like most of the band. However, the band is more of a band then they have ever been and have gelled quite well. Bumble is really the only one who doesn't "fit" IMO. Slash is slash - I don't think for a second he is/was weird - he has always been who he is and has never changed.

As for reinventing the song - I don't care for it. I like a song to be recognizable at least, not just someone again trying to make a name for themself going off on a tangent during a classic tune, which was the only reason he joined the band in the first place. He was hoping to become a household name off of GNR - damn shame it didn't work and he had to crawl back in his hole. For those outside of GNR fans that ever even heard or saw him (MTV), they would probably just say "oh ya, that freak that was in GNR for a short time". Nobody really knew or cared what he was up to before, nor do they now. GNR is in good shape these days and much more fitting to the name - as close as they can be without the original lineup in place anyways.

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I don't see how - its not even nighttrain. On another song that he wrote himself, perhaps it would be good - but passing off a "look at me" solo in the middle of nightrain just ruins the song for me really.

Speaking of "gentle giant", anybody know how tall the robot/chicken/phantom/weatherman wannabe is?

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People who saw Bucket in 2002 know that he owns Ron. I wish that Axl would just promote Richard to lead and find a new rhythm player. Rons guitar playing, and Franks drumming, were the worst parts of the Gnr show I went to in Everett. Rons non melodic shredding was just painful to listen to. Not only is his guitar playing painful to listen to, but he has no stage presence or charisma to speak of. I've seen the guy with GnR twice and his playing just does nothing for me. Hopefully Axl uses some of the money that that we all donated on the "We Need Money To Finish Chinese Democracy" tour, to try and get Brain and Bucket back.

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I agree but i do appreciate ron alot more than bucket. I think we needed a fan friendly guitarist.

Fuck a fan friendly guitarist. I hate everyone saying that Bumblefoot is a great, friendly guy. He has limited charisma and no image at all. Slash was a badass and everyone knows he was cool. Buckethead had a mysterious image and had better stage presence. Last thing the band should have is a nerdy fan friendly guitarist.

Bucket totally owns Bumblefoot.

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Nice Boys Don't Play Rock N Roll!!! I just don't get how people prefer a guitar player who they openly admit isn't as good as Bucket, just because he answers their e-mails? You guys are what's wrong with the music business.

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