Bumblefoot the musician ..

LA_0013 · December 20, 2006

Ok, short and sweet topic.

I've waited to the end of the tour before casting my opinion, but Bumblefoot......I'm just not a fan. Don't get me wrong, I've tried, and I know the guy is an amazing musician - but nothing he has contributed to the band in a live setting has blown me away (with the exception of Don't Cry). His presence is total overkill.

One thing this tour has certianly cemented is just how good the combo of Finck and Forus are, amazing team and super stage presence (my opinion of Finck has shot straight up after hearing him live, the 'sloppy' criticism's are seriously unwarranted when you hear the guy in front of you - he brings something pretty unique to GNR). But Bumble, ....I dunno..... hopefully he will make me eat my words when the album comes out

It's not even the fact there are 3 guitarists, it's just sometimes his playing really blows..... His playing sounds imprecise, rushed, and really OTT (at least he's good for a showboat - we've all seen his cabaret 'right hand up the neck' trick. Oh, and at least he's a nice guy). I'm not against virtuoso guitarists, far from it, but at least Bucket hit us with some memorable solos and was remotely melodic. Bumblefoot's style (so far) is just pure guitar wank........he should put less emphasis on speed and technicalities and hit us with a bloody decent tune...!!

JMO

LA

Edited December 23, 2006 by madison

GeorgeGlass · December 20, 2006

In addition, his nickname is stupid and he wears that gay hooded sweatshirt...

madison · December 20, 2006

Ok, short and sweet topic.
I've waited to the end of the tour before casting my opinion, but Bumblefoot......I'm just not a fan. Don't get me wrong, I've tried, and I know the guy is an amazing musician - but nothing he has contributed has blown me away (with the exception of Don't Cry)and his presence on the live shows is total overkill.
One thing this tour has certianly cemented is just how good the combo of Finck and Forus are, amazing team and super stage presence (my opinion of Finck has shot straight up after hearing him live, the 'sloppy' criticism's are seriously unwarranted when you hear the guy in front of you - he brings something pretty unique to GNR). But Bumble, ....I dunno.....
Maybe Axl and Bumble will prove me wrong when the album comes out, but I doub't it.
It's not even the fact there are 3 guitarists, it's just sometimes his playing really blows..... His playing sounds imprecise, rushed, and really OTT (at least he's good for a showboat - we've all seen his cabaret 'right hand up the neck' trick. Oh, and at least he's a nice guy). I'm not against virtuoso guitarists, far from it, but at least Bucket hit us with some memorable solos and was remotely melodic. Bumble's style is just pure guitar wank........ JMO
LA

I disagree - strongly.

I think Axl's decision to bring Ron onboard was the smartest move he's made in years - both musically and from a PR perspective. I think Ron is talented and versatile as a guitarist, has good stage presence (which he didn't have when he first joined the band), and offers a great connection between the band and fans from a PR perspective. jmo.

silverarrow · December 20, 2006

I disagree , just hear the TWAT ending live ( the fingertapping thing )

Ridin' the Nightrain · December 20, 2006

I love Ron. Aside from being a damn amazing person, he's an awesome player (not as good as Buckethead, but still) and he's just deadly cool.

By far my favourite of the three guitarists. Axl made a wise move picking him. He's a big asset. I just wish he'd sing a bit, his solo records prove he's good at it. He already has the only entertaining solo (actually, y'know, playing GNR material during it). If he sang a bit it'd just be amazing.

Edited December 20, 2006 by Slash's Appetite

Chris Axl · December 20, 2006

Agree with Madison.

And NR and Nightrain wouldent be the same without him

Patience 4 Axl · December 20, 2006

I think there's another guitarist in the band whose playing blows more. I'm glad Ron is in the band, I just think he's over-shadowed by the fact that there's two other guitarists, and he doesn't get much of an opportunity to stand out. BH stood out as much for his playing as for his gimmick, but even "remotely melodic" is not how I would describe him.

Ron came in, what 2/3 weeks before Hammerstein. He was literally thrown into the pit with guys who have already known each other and played together for several years. I think he's still trying to figure out how he fits into this whole thing, and he definitely has the talent to shine. I definitely think he has the potential.

Edited December 20, 2006 by Patience 4 Axl

War Of The Roses · December 20, 2006

Ok, short and sweet topic.
I've waited to the end of the tour before casting my opinion, but Bumblefoot......I'm just not a fan. Don't get me wrong, I've tried, and I know the guy is an amazing musician - but nothing he has contributed has blown me away (with the exception of Don't Cry)and his presence on the live shows is total overkill.
One thing this tour has certianly cemented is just how good the combo of Finck and Forus are, amazing team and super stage presence (my opinion of Finck has shot straight up after hearing him live, the 'sloppy' criticism's are seriously unwarranted when you hear the guy in front of you - he brings something pretty unique to GNR). But Bumble, ....I dunno.....
Maybe Axl and Bumble will prove me wrong when the album comes out, but I doub't it.
It's not even the fact there are 3 guitarists, it's just sometimes his playing really blows..... His playing sounds imprecise, rushed, and really OTT (at least he's good for a showboat - we've all seen his cabaret 'right hand up the neck' trick. Oh, and at least he's a nice guy). I'm not against virtuoso guitarists, far from it, but at least Bucket hit us with some memorable solos and was remotely melodic. Bumble's style is just pure guitar wank........ JMO
LA
I disagree - strongly.
I think Axl's decision to bring Ron onboard was the smartest move he's made in years - both musically and from a PR perspective. I think Ron is talented and versatile as a guitarist, has good stage presence (which he didn't have when he first joined the band), and offers a great connection between the band and fans from a PR perspective. jmo.

im gonna agree 100% with you madison not because your the guy who can ban anyone but because i value that post

LA_0013 · December 20, 2006

Ok, short and sweet topic.
I've waited to the end of the tour before casting my opinion, but Bumblefoot......I'm just not a fan. Don't get me wrong, I've tried, and I know the guy is an amazing musician - but nothing he has contributed has blown me away (with the exception of Don't Cry)and his presence on the live shows is total overkill.
One thing this tour has certianly cemented is just how good the combo of Finck and Forus are, amazing team and super stage presence (my opinion of Finck has shot straight up after hearing him live, the 'sloppy' criticism's are seriously unwarranted when you hear the guy in front of you - he brings something pretty unique to GNR). But Bumble, ....I dunno.....
Maybe Axl and Bumble will prove me wrong when the album comes out, but I doub't it.
It's not even the fact there are 3 guitarists, it's just sometimes his playing really blows..... His playing sounds imprecise, rushed, and really OTT (at least he's good for a showboat - we've all seen his cabaret 'right hand up the neck' trick. Oh, and at least he's a nice guy). I'm not against virtuoso guitarists, far from it, but at least Bucket hit us with some memorable solos and was remotely melodic. Bumble's style is just pure guitar wank........ JMO
LA
I disagree - strongly.
I think Axl's decision to bring Ron onboard was the smartest move he's made in years - both musically and from a PR perspective. I think Ron is talented and versatile as a guitarist, has good stage presence (which he didn't have when he first joined the band), and offers a great connection between the band and fans from a PR perspective. jmo.

Can't disagree with the PR argument - he appears to be pretty forthright with the fans which is refreshing, something we've not had in years, and I do mean years.....! But his playing, if he could just string a melody together and put less emphasis on guitar drivel for the sake of it. Take his rendition of Don't Cry - superb.

And whoever argued that Nightrain wouldn't be the same with out him... I'm sorry but on this particular song:

Buckethead '02>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bumblefoot '06

LA

DCGNR · December 20, 2006

My eyes & ears alone tell me that if he wasn't on stage with the band, it would hardly be noticed.

But , I do trust Axl and what he wants to do - and believe that his presence is necessary because of what is to eventually come from this album and the need for his spot to pull of some stuff live -

Who knows? Maybe he brought some amazing things to the contribution to this album or fits a certain type of mold that Axl's looking for?

moreblack · December 20, 2006

Ron is for the most part pure guitar wankery I agree. He needs to slow down and actually say something with ihs notes. Right now it's like "look how fast I go WEEEEEEEE!!!!!"

rockstar81 · December 20, 2006

This band does NOT need 3 guitar players.

Finck/Fortus duet would be the best thing for this new band.

Edited December 20, 2006 by rockstar81

Leigh-Rok! · December 20, 2006

I just wish he'd sing a bit, his solo records prove he's good at it.

Did you hear him doing YCBM when Axl was off shouting at some crue guy?

Chris Axl · December 20, 2006

I definitely think he has the potential.

:huh:

Ron has shown his potential for a half year now

LA_0013 · December 20, 2006

Ron is for the most part pure guitar wankery I agree. He needs to slow down and actually say something with ihs notes. Right now it's like "look how fast I go WEEEEEEEE!!!!!"

Exactly.

LA

damnesiac · December 20, 2006

Don't be so quick to judge. Remember, all he's had the chance to show anybody so far is his take on the existing released material. He can't stray too far from the beaten trail or he'll get blasted for it. Basically all he has been able to do on this tour is find a small niche to occupy and play along. The new (unheard) material is where he'll be able to really show his chops and prove what he can bring to the party. This guy may have the 'shredder' rep but in addition to being able to light-up the fretboard he's also got a real buttery and bluesy melodic vib. Exactly what this band was missing. Just wait...

Patience 4 Axl · December 20, 2006

I definitely think he has the potential.

Ron has shown his potential for a half year now

The potential to shine in the sea of other guitar players on stage, not to play.

Duh.

Markus89 · December 20, 2006

Ok, short and sweet topic.
I've waited to the end of the tour before casting my opinion, but Bumblefoot......I'm just not a fan. Don't get me wrong, I've tried, and I know the guy is an amazing musician - but nothing he has contributed has blown me away (with the exception of Don't Cry)and his presence on the live shows is total overkill.
One thing this tour has certianly cemented is just how good the combo of Finck and Forus are, amazing team and super stage presence (my opinion of Finck has shot straight up after hearing him live, the 'sloppy' criticism's are seriously unwarranted when you hear the guy in front of you - he brings something pretty unique to GNR). But Bumble, ....I dunno.....
Maybe Axl and Bumble will prove me wrong when the album comes out, but I doub't it.
It's not even the fact there are 3 guitarists, it's just sometimes his playing really blows..... His playing sounds imprecise, rushed, and really OTT (at least he's good for a showboat - we've all seen his cabaret 'right hand up the neck' trick. Oh, and at least he's a nice guy). I'm not against virtuoso guitarists, far from it, but at least Bucket hit us with some memorable solos and was remotely melodic. Bumble's style is just pure guitar wank........ JMO
LA
I disagree - strongly.
I think Axl's decision to bring Ron onboard was the smartest move he's made in years - both musically and from a PR perspective. I think Ron is talented and versatile as a guitarist, has good stage presence (which he didn't have when he first joined the band), and offers a great connection between the band and fans from a PR perspective. jmo.
im gonna agree 100% with you madison not because your the guy who can ban anyone but because i value that post

...

Bumble's cool, the guy rocked in Norway.

Montrealer · December 20, 2006

Ok, short and sweet topic.
I've waited to the end of the tour before casting my opinion, but Bumblefoot......I'm just not a fan. Don't get me wrong, I've tried, and I know the guy is an amazing musician - but nothing he has contributed has blown me away (with the exception of Don't Cry)and his presence on the live shows is total overkill.
One thing this tour has certianly cemented is just how good the combo of Finck and Forus are, amazing team and super stage presence (my opinion of Finck has shot straight up after hearing him live, the 'sloppy' criticism's are seriously unwarranted when you hear the guy in front of you - he brings something pretty unique to GNR). But Bumble, ....I dunno.....
Maybe Axl and Bumble will prove me wrong when the album comes out, but I doub't it.
It's not even the fact there are 3 guitarists, it's just sometimes his playing really blows..... His playing sounds imprecise, rushed, and really OTT (at least he's good for a showboat - we've all seen his cabaret 'right hand up the neck' trick. Oh, and at least he's a nice guy). I'm not against virtuoso guitarists, far from it, but at least Bucket hit us with some memorable solos and was remotely melodic. Bumble's style is just pure guitar wank........ JMO
LA
I disagree - strongly.
I think Axl's decision to bring Ron onboard was the smartest move he's made in years - both musically and from a PR perspective. I think Ron is talented and versatile as a guitarist, has good stage presence (which he didn't have when he first joined the band), and offers a great connection between the band and fans from a PR perspective. jmo.

I completly agree with Madison.

At first I wasn't a fan either. When I saw him in New York, he was new and he seems lost on stage.

Saw them 3 times after that, his stage presence his great. He has a attitude when he plays that I really like. He feels the music and you can see that his respect for the songs, the band and the fans is really important for him. It as a great move to get him in the band

KIKOZ3 · December 20, 2006

Look what Bumble put on the table.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZ-0X0kxPsA

He sounds Better tham Bucket Head on this song,kick ass fretteness work there Kudos for him. rock3

Leigh-Rok! · December 20, 2006

Don't be so quick to judge. Remember, all he's had the chance to show anybody so far is his take on the existing released material. He can't stray too far from the beaten trail or he'll get blasted for it. Basically all he has been able to do on this tour is find a small niche to occupy and play along. The new (unheard) material is where he'll be able to really show his chops and prove what he can bring to the party. This guy may have the 'shredder' rep but in addition to being able to light-up the fretboard he's also got a real buttery and bluesy melodic vib. Exactly what this band was missing. Just wait...

Nice post.

Montrealer · December 20, 2006

Ok, short and sweet topic.
I've waited to the end of the tour before casting my opinion, but Bumblefoot......I'm just not a fan. Don't get me wrong, I've tried, and I know the guy is an amazing musician - but nothing he has contributed has blown me away (with the exception of Don't Cry)and his presence on the live shows is total overkill.
One thing this tour has certianly cemented is just how good the combo of Finck and Forus are, amazing team and super stage presence (my opinion of Finck has shot straight up after hearing him live, the 'sloppy' criticism's are seriously unwarranted when you hear the guy in front of you - he brings something pretty unique to GNR). But Bumble, ....I dunno.....
Maybe Axl and Bumble will prove me wrong when the album comes out, but I doub't it.
It's not even the fact there are 3 guitarists, it's just sometimes his playing really blows..... His playing sounds imprecise, rushed, and really OTT (at least he's good for a showboat - we've all seen his cabaret 'right hand up the neck' trick. Oh, and at least he's a nice guy). I'm not against virtuoso guitarists, far from it, but at least Bucket hit us with some memorable solos and was remotely melodic. Bumble's style is just pure guitar wank........ JMO
LA
I disagree - strongly.
I think Axl's decision to bring Ron onboard was the smartest move he's made in years - both musically and from a PR perspective. I think Ron is talented and versatile as a guitarist, has good stage presence (which he didn't have when he first joined the band), and offers a great connection between the band and fans from a PR perspective. jmo.
im gonna agree 100% with you madison not because your the guy who can ban anyone but because i value that post

Ok... :drevil:

madison · December 20, 2006

im gonna agree 100% with you madison not because your the guy who can ban anyone but because i value that post

Cool. But ummm.. I'm a dudette, not a dude. B)

ssiscool · December 20, 2006

Agree with Madison.
And NR and Nightrain wouldent be the same without him

good point

M_B · December 20, 2006

I just wish he'd sing a bit, his solo records prove he's good at it.
Did you hear him doing YCBM when Axl was off shouting at some crue guy?

:laugh: that was awesome, his accent made it funny.

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