Ridin' the Nightrain Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 I'm gona take a lot of shit for this, but fuck it.TWAT is by far my favourite of the leaks. It's not because the lyrics or anything are that amazing, but because of the solo at the end. Granted - the two times they played it live they hardly nailed it to perfection, but I still thought it was a strong performance.I know people fear change (WTTJ always as opener, PC always as the closer), as does Axl it seems to some degree, but if he were to overhaul the setlist I'd really like TWAT given a chance to close the show.Watch the Hammerstein peformance:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKPVQhKhducOk, Axl really doesn't impress on it for the most part, I know. But it was the first time live so cut him some slack for that. Imagine hearing this live after the band have rehearsed it to death, and Axl can sing it as good as the other songs.Personally, the end line after the huge (and absolutely amazing) solo dies down gives me shivers everytime. I only listen to that version because the actual leak lacks it. Moreso than that - listen to the crowd. They go fucking nuts. If more people knew it then the reception for it would be better, and then you'd have a perfect show closer.I know I'll be in the minority of thinking this, but I thought I'd get some views. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bromle Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 I agree. Wouldn't mind TWAT to close the show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdinan Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 I think TWAT or Catcher would be very good closers if Axl ever decides to get out of the past and put appetite to rest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axingn'r Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 (edited) TWAT is closer to Estranged and November Rain than to Paradise City as a song.... Would Estranged or November Rain be good closers ? I doubt it. Edited December 28, 2006 by Axingn'r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridin' the Nightrain Posted December 28, 2006 Author Share Posted December 28, 2006 TWAT is closer to Estranged and November Rain than to Paradise City as a song.... Would Estranged or November Rain be a good closer ? I doubt it.TWAT has a much more rock n roll vibe than either of those. Really guitar heavy and epic in rock n roll terms, not piano epic.The guitar solo seems perfect to close the show to me personally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moreblack Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 personally, I wouldn't mind if TWAT replaced either IRS or Better as one of the new songs of the set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zint Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 TWAT's a great song,I don't see it as a closer though...definitely a high point of the show once the cd is out and people are used to it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pain_Train_99 Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 I think once the cd is released. Better would be a really cool opener, once everyone knows the song that is. Jungle would be really awesome if they didnt play it, played PC or TWAT as a closer, and then did a encore and came back with jungle. that would make ppl go fuckin crazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eschman Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 Great song, would hate for a rock band to close with a ballad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave10 Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 TWAT is closer to Estranged and November Rain than to Paradise City as a song.... Would Estranged or November Rain be a good closer ? I doubt it.TWAT has a much more rock n roll vibe than either of those. Really guitar heavy and epic in rock n roll terms, not piano epic.The guitar solo seems perfect to close the show to me personally.You can't ever close a show on a guitar solo. Paradise City is the perfect closer and I wouldn't want any other song over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axingn'r Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 personally, I wouldn't mind if TWAT replaced either IRS or Better as one of the new songs of the set.They have to find someone who can play the final solo first.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worldwideboss Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 Paradise City is the perfect closer and I wouldn't want any other song over it.Nah, Rocket Queen proved to be a better closer than Paradise City at The Ritz 88. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christopher Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 They should release Chinese Democracy before using T.W.A.T as the closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bandita Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 TWAT is my fav leak too. But I would like to see it replace something else, I don't think it would make a great encore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tase Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 Great song, would hate for a rock band to close with a ballad.thats exactly what i wanted to say... the song is amazing but you cant close a show with a ballad...and PC is just... perfect as a closer ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SterileEyes Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 He should never ever open with anything other than Jungle or close with anything other than Paradise City. Period.Other than that, yeah, he should change stuff. I'm not a guy in bumfuck Iowa who doesn't go to the show like he says. I went 3 times this year, and the first 7 or 8 songs of the set are almost always the same. (Jungle, It's So Easy, Mr. Brownstone, Live And Let Die, You Could Be Mine, and Heaven's Door...always the set openers, that could and will change I'm sure).Part of what made me love Guns to begin with was the random setlists they did. They always closed with PC, but other than that and a few other consistencies, almost anything was possible.But um, TWAT to close the show? No.Perhaps switch it with Madagascar as the encore opener...but not the show closer.You close a big rock show with an uplifting song (with a BANG so to speak), TWAT isn't exactly happy. You can't drop a shitload of confetti and have shower sparks going during TWAT to close the show.My opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tase Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 (edited) personally, I wouldn't mind if TWAT replaced either IRS or Better as one of the new songs of the set.They have to find someone who can play the final solo first....wawi sure laughed hard on that one... a medium guitarist can play that sologood post sterileeyes Edited December 28, 2006 by Tase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bandita Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 I hate to admit it but by the 5th and 6th shows this year I started using KOHD, the extreme etended version, to refresh my beer stash and go to the ladies room. I know some won't agree but I think removing this tune could make room for 2 more songs. But I agree Jungle is the best opener and PC for the finish. Anything in between I would love to see switched up and TWAT should definitely become a permanent part of the set. Even maybe as part of the finale, just not the final encore itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saulhudson88 Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 DEFINITILY NOT!!!Paradise City is the best song to close the concert (of all the songs ever written). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragan78 Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 with all respect for new songs but...TWAT doesnt have the fast and furious endlike paradise city...I think most of the people for the end songwant something that will kick the fuck out of themand PC is perfect - fast and furious !!!as someone said and I agree with them :1) TWAT is more like Estranged or November rain2) Axl has to burried AFD - not possible for a fuckingmillion times,years,whatever,just name it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bax Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 I love the song, but it wouldn't make sense to use it as the closer unless it is released as a single and becomes a massive hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChineseDemocracy2004 Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 You know what'd be bizarre...paradise as a concert opener!i don't think paradise will ever stop being the concert closer, i'd just like t.w.a.t to get played more, lets hope it does in 2007paradise is the definitive concert closer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maestro Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 No PC is the best closer for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chesire78 Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 i like pc as a closer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiarafan Posted December 28, 2006 Share Posted December 28, 2006 What? but Paradise city is the best end! In the other side, is a grate song and the changes are good some times... I really don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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